T2 EU | VLR.gg

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shockyyyy

Im mainly invested into T1 teams and NA T2. But i want to watch more T2 EU especially with Apeks and new Acend

This is a question to all you eu fans.

How good was the EU T2 scene last year and how much has changed this year in terms of level? Is comparable to NA T2?

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cyk

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The competitiveness level remains the same because they have been running the current ecosystem since last year, Acension will be really good for franchise teams to scout talent, the new alfajer will appear.

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Mocratow

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Turkey league is crazy competitive.
SUP, Parla, fire flux eSports are probably the best T2 teams in EMEA.

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BackoxyXD

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also s2g , iw too good

tbg , fb are underdogs

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firo

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not comparable to the current NA t2 overall, maybe a few teams, but that’s mainly because slots for NA T1 are so few that many t1 caliber players are in NA T2. also the local resident rule in emea teams in a way limited some teams, but i dont think the level is that different from last year

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Mocratow

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"Not comparable to T2 NA overall".
As usual NA fans with their NA bias.
Ask any reputable analyst or coach, they will tell you turkey league is the most skilled.
Watch the matches, they are really good.

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firo

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“not comparable to CURRENT NA t2 overall” read again broski
i watch the turkey challengers, they have been strong since last year, bruh fut won overall in vrl no doubt the league is strong. they are still strong this year, thats why i said the level isnt that different, and that only a few teams can be comparable.
when u have only 5 NA teams in franchising with some imports, so many good players are left out in t2, thats a fact.

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Mocratow

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Lil bro didn't even respond to my argument.
"So many good players left out in t2" - the same logic can be applied to EMEA.
And I can tell you turkey league is much stronger now , the quality of valorant they play is much higher to any other league.
"Only a few teams can be comparable".
I'm too lazy to list all the good teams in EMEA but looking at the comments in this thread there definitely more than "a few strong teams".
It pisses me off when NA fans call their league better than others when they have no idea about the caliber of other leagues.

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ItsMeDio

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he's right

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Targu1n

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Yea no shot
Our t2 scene is super talented, but there's no way we have enough talent to make 64 teams to the same quality as the 12 NA teams (who also have more ex t1 players in that pool since they have less franchise spots), especially with the BS restrictions;
we for sure have great ones, apex, ff, parla all look good atm, but that's just not the same as to NA where you can expect all the teams to reach that level.
Add to that that we have a (luckily still insignificant) talent drain in EMEA since its not profitable enough for orgs here compared to NA

(side note since you wanna ask coaches, go into sliggys chat tonight and ask him; you wont like the answer xD)

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vadoshi

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T2 Eu is really good. Teams like Apeks, Acend, Parla are insane. imo this 3 teams would be favorites against any NA t2 team except for Guard and maybe M80. And there is a lot of teams that a little worse than that 3 but also very strong and could easily beat teams like ORE or Turtle Troop
(Fokus, SMB, FF etc.) And a lot of teams with huge potential like LPB, SBG, Mandatory, KPI, Queso, Geekay, MOUZ, sAw, GTZ)

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since_beta

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FireFlux is Insane

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dex_

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i have a question about that actually

the leagues like VCL,VRL, and leagues like german league french league, are that league t2 right?