Role Changes (Hot Take)

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Entry (raze, neon, jett)
Rifler support (kayo, skye, omen)
Rifler support (fade, sova)
Rifler anchor (viper, astra, brim)
Sniper (chamber)

Chamber meta was best rolewise due to the fact duelist agents were entrying: Jett, Neon, Raze and we had dedicated sniper role on Chamber. Also it's like cs:go roles and i believe that's how game roles should be (structurally val=cs)

Since Chamber was killed, the roles are changing to the old Valulrant meta from 2021:

Entry (Jett)
Rifler support
Rifler support
Rifler smokes
Rifler anchor (KJ, Cypher)

Jett again will be picked more than any other duelist agent cz of escape ability for oping. That's why we say goodbye to Neon and Raze (bind bb as well) as the duelists. Their pickrate will be low af.

How can we solve the problem? Return to old Chamb meta? Hell no, but we all can agree Chamber must be balanced, reworked (now he's complete shit) and he needs a rivalry agent!

Suggestions:

Create new agent role called 'sniper'
Put Jett and Chamber on 'sniper' agents
Chamber rework:
a) deag 8 bullets by $100, increase gun speed like it was before the nerf.
b) ultimate operator for 7 orbs
c) make tp range wider so he could compete with jett dash, but not that wide he could break the timings on retake.
d) keep all the nerfs which are already done: ult, tp, alarmbot etc.
Jett rework:
a) ultimate change - 7 orbs and she has chamber like awp. Literally the same nerfed awp by timings etc.
b) deleting updraft ability - instead Jett will have 8 knives by $100 cost each
c) cloudburst - $100 each
d) Jett knives can be fast swapped like chamb deag. But also nerfed for movement error: now in order to hit the shots you must counter-strafe properly. Deleting rightclick. Make them slower as old chamb deag, so you couldn't spam. Non rechargeable.

So,

Jett knives rework=Chamber Deagle
Jett ult=Chamber ult
Jett dash is an aggressive alternative of passive Chamber tp.

Now we have different sniper agents with different playstyle. Agressive snipers like cned/aspas will prefer Jett, passive slow paced snipers like Yay will play Chamber.

Also we would have dedicated sniper agents and entry/duelist pickrate diversity: Neon, Raze, Phoenix.

Only sentinel agents will be caused cz their role is anchoring. Viper is already an anchor, Astra is anchor too. Sentinel agents will be situational and compete with Viper/Astra abilities directly on some maps.

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WinterZ

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so basically Jett = Chamber but with a dash instead?

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my_fav_team_is_M3C

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Basically she would have been an aggressive version of chamber and also these two seems pretty balanced in comparison to old patches.

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unknown_trash

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the jett knives would be OP af because there wouldnt be any movement or firing error, so i dont like that change. i dont have a suggestion for something else though. i suppose it could work

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my_fav_team_is_M3C

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d) Jett knives can be fast swapped like chamb deag. But also nerfed for movement error: now in order to hit the shots you must counter-strafe properly. Deleting rightclick. Make them slower as old chamb deag, so you couldn't spam. Non rechargeable.

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unknown_trash

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oh ok. but isnt the updraft like a really big part of jetts kit as well? she can still entry with dash and smokes too so she cant really fall into the sniper role. another thing i thought of just now was that the ultimate isnt unique enough to jett, unlike chambers ult where it makes sense because he is a gun maker.

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my_fav_team_is_M3C

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She actually can do it on T side but I think on some maps Raze and Neon could be better option for entrying.

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unknown_trash

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This sounds like a decent plan. It prevents other duelist from falling out of the meta while ensuring that the sniper role can be filled by 2 agents. But then they would have to start releasing more sniper specific agents, which might be an issue

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my_fav_team_is_M3C

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At least three balanced sniper agents would be enough.

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WinterZ

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Alright

I feel like if you want Jett to be more agressive/playing into the role better, I’d suggest removing smokes instead of updraft. Then she’d require a bit more co-ordination on attack thus making her more balanced

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Jett updraft exists only for knives ultimate. Reworked Jett doesn't really need an updraft coz knives have movement error. Cloudburst and dash abilities are making her aggressive as she is.

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my fav team is m3c

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Adi69LassiSeller

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my fav team is m3c and my fav player is nats

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SuperRoss

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chamber isnt bad bro

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Xav

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there isnt really a point in using him tbh

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SuperRoss

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what are you gonna play, fucking chyper?? 🤣🤣🤣

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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Chamber: Moves 30m away from trademark
Becomes instantly useless 😹😹💀💀

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Uxind

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You spent all that time writing that essay for everyone to read a grand total of 0 words.
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

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Qwertyy

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I read it :)

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my_fav_team_is_M3C

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Yay clears :)

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worst change ever, thank god u arent working at riot

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my_fav_team_is_M3C

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Let's talk in 2025-2026

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acels2

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no way u just said copy the chamber ult and paste onto jett ult

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my_fav_team_is_M3C

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Best decision

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Qwertyy

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So what happens to chamber?

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shockyyyy

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This has to be bait 100%

So to eliminate the projected resurgence of a character (Jett), Just make that character even more insane?? Are you listening to your self. Making a new role doesn’t change shit if their kits are insane. Chamber is properly balanced imo so Jett naturally comes back into play. Chamber still has a good kit with his instant TP but he is less aggressive now and can still be utilized well at the top level.

Tldr: your solution to the role problem is just to make a duelist more OP which in hand is counterproductive to encouraging more play with other duelists. Jetts forward dash still is good at creating space so unless you want to change thay. She is still a duelist but with the added bonus of weapon arsenal of chamber

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my_fav_team_is_M3C

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Jett dash might be used only to the right, back or left. No dash forward. Solved.

UPD. Bad decision. No dash nerf.

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shockyyyy

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Then its just a reskined chamber and arguably worse because you lose the trip for short duration smokes. Might as well make them one character (or delete one) because they are so incredibly similar.

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my_fav_team_is_M3C

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I agree on trip>cloudburst tho
But at the end of the day it's only the oping style preference: if you are an aggressive sniper you play on Jett, passive - Chamber.

Also I think her dash which is already limited by timing is good balance, no need to nerf it more (delete dash forward). And ofc you can play with new Jett as an entry, but having Pho, Raze and Neon, will you give Jett that role? Im sure no. Maybe on specific maps where you don't need duelist like ice box. Other than that I think no coz we changed her ultimate as well and Pho, Neon, Raze ults are more specific for entrying sites and space creation

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shockyyyy

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I feel like if you give her a kit like that included with a forward dash. Teams will pick her over other duelists because she has that value of a chamber with her weapon arsenal along with the ability to create space unlike chamber.

If you wanted to create a rival to chamber, making a carbon copy of him with Jett isn't the way to go imo. Maybe give her smokes better or give her better abilities not giving her chambers abilities

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I don't think riot will ever do this

Ur basically making 2 of the same agent which differ very slightly.
It takes away from the fact that Jett has all these movement abilities cuz she's the wind girl and shit
Most of the community would riot by the fact that there are no more cool knife plays

edit: whoops wrong person sry

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shockyyyy

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Yeah that’s basically my argument

#28

Lqwnmower

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They would never do this because to call a character a sniper you are basically forcing them to use a certain weapon and play a certain way.

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nutab1e

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I.A.R.A

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HockeyStick

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Tldr?

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KyLZi

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He likes there being an OP role and the new meta may not have one.

Wants to create a new role for Op.

Wants to rework Jett to be more like Chamber and stick them both in that new role.

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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Entry
Recon
Initiator
AWP
Smoker

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melon_fan

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I agree with the OP role thing but the rest is bs mf tried to cook and made school lunch