Replying to Valorant not hard thread

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KoreanOverlord

The whole point of Valorant is to appease the casuals

That's why Riot didn't implement stupid breaking techniques, play csgo and it feels like you're skating on ice

CSGO also feels harder because hit reg is ABSOLUTE dogshit, so shots ur suppose to hit misses for no reason

Valorant has a easier barrier to entry, harder at the pro level because of the sole existence of abilities. Contrary to CS frogs beliefs, lining up a smoke from spawn and going to mid to b isnt sophisticated nor is it actually hard. It's just harder to pug because people who play the game casually (aka EVERYONE except pros) cant listen to simple commands

Imagine astralis playing valorant, having to get every single timing down to the milliseconds, they would spend 2x more server time in this game in order to get perfect executes because of the variability and SHEER number of abilities

Look at DRX, these guys spend 14 hours a day every day in server time scrimming or dry running executes yet in tournament it will never be perfect, the skill ceiling to this game basically grows exponentially as long as riot keeps adding agents

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csgo players when they realize not every csgo pro made pro valorant because only some have an affinity for the game because its a different game and only aim transfers
when they realize Derrekk OWWWW could possibly own a top cs player in Val even if they got good

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KoreanOverlord

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I dont think csgo players exist anymore... not in NA anyways

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mr overwatch is my hero

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hekzy

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derrek cant even own my grandma

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people really dont understand the difference between skill ceiling and difficulty lol,the thing is no one will probably ever get it perfect because the game doesnt have a high enough ceiling in individual skill and pure mechanics

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KoreanOverlord

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the funniest thing is that, most of csgo's difficulty is a byproduct of a shitty outdated engine yet the boomers will tell you it's superior gameplay

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asdfgh

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what a shit take lmao,and what does that have to do with my point,like ok some boomers have apparently told you its superior gameplay nice?

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KoreanOverlord

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wait I just realized ur a cs frog

ur point was so stupid I didnt even realize what u were saying

the thing is no one will probably ever get it perfect because the game doesnt have a high enough ceiling in individual skill and pure mechanics

holy I lost braincells reading this

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asdfgh

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wait thats actually crazy,yours too, but yeah i bet you lose braincells trying to read something ur too dumb to understand i can explain it even more simple if you want

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KoreanOverlord

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I dont think you have the iq to handle this conversation lol

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KoreanOverlord

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here let me guide you

no one will probably ever get it perfect because the game doesnt have a high enough ceiling

reread this until you realize you just created a paradox

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asdfgh

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nice guiding but i think you dont understand what im saying,do you understand what skill ceiling is,if yes why are you having a hard time understanding it makes the game more "fair" to everyone in terms of skill,if you look at sports for example where there is close to no "ceiling" in skill or any luck at play there is a lot more room for individuals, teams or nations to rise above everyone else and dominate,for example boxing,not in a 1000 years will you see any good boxer come even close to winning mike tyson for example,or in league eu or na suprassing korea or china,

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KoreanOverlord

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Word Salad

a confused or unintelligible mixture of seemingly random words and phrases, specifically (in psychiatry) as a form of speech indicative of advanced schizophrenia.

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bro are you actually dumb,what is "world salad" about that,i just compared valorant to sports where there is no skill ceiling or very little and the trend of almost everyone being at the same level doesnt exist there or in any form of competition where there is a incredibly high skill ceiling,for valorant the skill ceiling is in the combat mechanics making the gap between players a lot smaller on the highest level

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KoreanOverlord

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Tbh I got to stop belittling you, it's obvious you can't even string 5 words together to form a coherent sentence or thought, I kind of feel bad fr

I genuinely don't understand what you're saying. Adios!

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hekzy

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my man the netcoding and registering is actually better. You only think otherwise because in CSGO you actually have demos to prove it. But try recording your gameplay in valorant, then do slow mos and you are going to freak out with how garbage this game's netcoding is. That's Riot NEVER does slow mo in VCT, because it exposes how shittily they've made this game.

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Even if you're a troll, you waste way too much time here. If you're not, yikes, grow up.

And from your takes, I understand you do not know jack shit about either game.

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asdfgh

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im sure you understand man,tell me what i dont understand lol

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doosean

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You do not understand two games you talk about. I told you. :(

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csgo more fun to watch but valorant more fun to play

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CS players don't understand that skill ceiling doesn't just apply to aims/shooting mechanics, but also abilities and game knowledge lol. These guys just work on their aims all day so when they see that the barrier to entry for Val in terms of shooting is lower, they just say, "sKiLL cEiLiNg lOw duURrr."

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aim is still the most important mechanic of this game,if they got rid of braindead escape agents like chamber the skill ceiling would be a lot higher

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ptrlol

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This makes no sense. The fact that there are agents like Chamber means you need to come up with creative ways to bypass him, making the skill ceiling higher. But of course you're not thinking of this in terms of game knowledge and just aims and one and dones, so sKiLL cEiLinG lOwEr duURrr.

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asdfgh

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its simply impossible to predict where he will be every round so no,you can play the most braindead positions and still get away with it

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Valgod

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You cannot argue with cs fans, they're beyond delusional, calling their 50 year old game perfect but wanting source 2 at the same time.

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GoodName

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Omg how tf does CS manage to stay in Valofrogs heads rent free for so long?
Champions not interesting enough?

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Domination

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Says a CS frog that registered a vlr account to stalk and shit on Valo players