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If we see a single elimination bracket for Champions I'm gonna freak out

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Single elims, Optic vs FPX😈

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Single elims is so boring, and I doubt it'll be these two in the finals

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Single elims is fun. We get upsets and new Champions

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Mjtchell

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Thought you hated fluke teams. This his how fluke teams happen (Acend)

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100T could've fluked too... oh wait

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Look where the old Acend and 100T rosters are now

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? u mentioned ACEND 2021 and i answered with 100T 2021 ? u good?

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Mjtchell

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Exactly and both rosters are gone.
For obvious reasons...
How is this even a counter argument mentioning 100T 💀

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wohe

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dude i'm talking about acend having a fluke run in 2021 ????? u started this shit, why are u talking about them now?? after they both dropped nearly everyone

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Mjtchell

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Bro I could give two shits about 100T in 2021
Acend is proof of a fluke team. How the actual fuck do you not understand that???
You mentioned 100T as if that made any sense...
I just mentioned that both teams rosters are essentially evaporated.
Yknow it doesnt look good when you have to have something spelt out for you because youre too slow

100T could've fluked too... oh wait

continue thread →

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BoF7ooM

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Acend beats old 100T 9/10 times just like Gambit beats that 100T 9/10 times. You call them fluke. Acend was undoubtedly the best team in EMEA whole of 2021. Barely any team could beat them. They only lost to gambit in a seeding game, but in the high stake games they always won like dropping gambit to the lower brackets in EMEA stage 3. Same with demolishing Liquid in the highest stake games, not redbullhomeground. It was an insane fight by gambit to even make it 3-2, that was how strong acend was, not Lulquid flukers.

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Bro who cares about old 100T they literally arent apart of the conversation... They were consistent losers toward the end of the season and no one even had them winning the whole thing... All of a sudden they popped off one time that happened to be during the most important part. If they weren't a fluke team they wouldn't be disbanded and they might actually be competing this year.
https://www.vlr.gg/130088/repeat-champions-teams-individuals
Here's a list of all the teams that aren't flukes... Because they're competing again

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flawed list. DRX and KRU almost zero fucking competition, but KRU got grouped twice this year. DRX failed to get top 4, lost to Zeta, Optic twice in a row and demolished by FPX. M3C and Acend has to play against teams that win the tournament, get top 4 or teams that 2-0 previous masters winners.
The only teams that are insanely consistent are Xerxia (they missed masters 3 because of bug exploit), Optic and Fnatic(qualifies from the toughest region almost regularly) and Liquid (consistently qualifies and embarrasses EMEA)

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How tf single elims boring double elim bracket is so shit like oh no they lost the first game they have another bracket

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PrTsty

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Yeha double elim only really makes sense for qualifiers (masters)

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Single elimination is better

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why

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Why do you think people watch champions league

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Mttn

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Champions leauge format is shit you can fluke your way to the win if you get easy bracket and a couple lucky wins (real Madrid last year)

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X_ae_A_12

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People wouldn’t watch with double elim. The only reason people watch champions league, is because of single elimination. No other reason.

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inkie

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you don't know val nor football lmao

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PrTsty

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First time watching football?
With such a shitty take im confused that u didnt call it soccer

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Mttn

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Bayern were the best team last year but villareal fluked a win over them :(
and so real just had to beat some dogshit english clubs to win the cup

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Man city and liverpool were probably the 2 best teams laat year

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Yeah I hope it's double bracket too. Otherwise Optic aren't making it deep.

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Mjtchell

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I just feel like it's not the best measure. With double elims no one gets lucky, and the upper bracket winner has to prove they have won

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That is so cap and you know it

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wohe

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single elimination is GIGA CHAD FORMAT but u guys are too weak for that shit

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Mjtchell

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Flair checks out 💀 No wonder you love fluke format

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wohe

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of course it does, no one managed to do it

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wohe

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as i said for giga chads only, u wouldn't get it
allowed to lose in champions, tf is that shit ?

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NA is only good in single elim formats, and this time FPX just exposed these flukers. In a single elimination playoffs, its much more higher stakes, makes it soo much better. CSGO, things like world cup, champions league all of them single elimination. There is a reason it is and not double elimination.

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Mjtchell

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NA has one two masters and they were both double elim...
EMEA has won 3 titles with 2 being single elim...

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X_ae_A_12

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FR they so pampered with double elim long ass boring games, when it’s short, sweet and gets everyone talking with single elim

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BoF7ooM

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Optic/Envy in masters 3- Played against KRU, VK and two NA teams all the way to finals, not a single map against EMEA
In champions- grouped by acend and x10/xerxia, not a single map against EMEA
Masters 1- no competition, not a single map versus EMEA
Masters 2- Opening games in playoffs vs xset and DRX chokers, and already top 3. Exposed by FPX and PRX, maps were not even close. 1 map finally won against EMEA, lost 5 maps total.

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Mjtchell

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You're using Optic as the only argument for NA which is just wrong
This post isnt about NA v EMEA

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X_ae_A_12

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Sentinels was a fluke win

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Mjtchell

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Idc?

This post isnt about NA v EMEA

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X_ae_A_12

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I’m kidding, I heckin love sentinels

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Mjtchell

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They used to be my backup team, but I can't stand Shahz.

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BoF7ooM

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I feel like i got carried away but the thing is NA and EMEA are the only winners of any international events till now 💀 There really isnt any other teams to compare.
masters 2- FNC vs SEN
masters 3- Envy vs GMB
champs- GMB vs ACE
masters 1- LOUD vs Optic
Masters 2- FPX vs PRX

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Mjtchell

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That's because the tournament organizers keep putting NA v NA in early stages so they get eliminated before they can even show up
I had a whole post about it, and it keeps happening to EMEA as well

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BoF7ooM

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Yup this is absolutely awful for any region. Masters 3, 3 NA teams in a bracket, just wow and 2nd and 3rd seed EMEA team in the same group, that too with DRX korea no.1 seed. Last 2 masters 3 EMEA in the same bracket and Optic vs NA first seeds. Pathetic.

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These random draws better start getting more random istg

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Single elim is better for new viewers and there will be hype for all playoff matches but double elim is better if you want the better team to win. FUCK IT GIVE US TRIPLE ELIM