Team Heretics....

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Philosopher_Stone

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No nukkye, no major

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sad niesow noises

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Mortadelo

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Hard trolling, NoPoaching still a good team, but man....

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Glycoroldas

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IGL or coaching is the problem with this roster, not the players imo - well except for lowell as he seems incapable of playing any other agent besides sage.

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IGL is more likely to be the case due to their recent change with Amilwa coming in for Ardiis (not full time, just a sub)

Also Heretics last qualifier didn't get pracc time due to al0rante having finals I think

Unlucky really!

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ValdemieGC

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Yes, amilwa is their new IGL and that freed lowel a lot. Al0rante coulnd't practice before as some of you guys said.

Again, they just need time. NP is a good team. No need to overreact

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Mortadelo

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He played Viper too xD

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And a killjoy against freya, but the rest of the games that he played in the past 90 days were all sage.

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Mortadelo

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Bring the Pheonix back kekw

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phoenix bad hehehe

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ValdemieGC

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Well, it seems like lowel it's expanding his agents pool tho

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Glycoroldas

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yeah, brought out a sova. If he can play it decently against no poaching that would allow heretics to come back from being 0-1 behind, then I will take my words back.

But so far it's only proving my point - lowel playing more agents is one of the things that heretics need as it seems to be actually working, at least against this no poach team

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ValdemieGC

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tru tru

No matter what happen here, I still think TH roster has a lot of potential.
Is it a little bit late to try and reach Berlin? Maybe, but what can they really do from now on?

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Yeah that's the issue, if you miss Berlin, you basically don't get to play officials until 2022.

Really hope that some 3rd party can organise tournaments in EU alongside Riot's Masters Champions so that these smaller teams with potential could keep themselves busy and test themselves in official matches.

That's why I am worried that all these orgs are gonna be even more prone to dropping entire rosters and building new teams from scratch even if there is significant potential in current rosters. Imagine how many 15 year olds will be turning 16 in the next 6 months that could become new tier 1 players.

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They need to rebuild for next year

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ValdemieGC

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?? They just did bruv

They need time

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ValdemieGC

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They just need some time. They most likely won't be on Berlin tho

BTW NoPoaching needs to be picked up

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sins

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time? i guess they will have plenty till 2022 guess they aint making it to any event this year

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Mortadelo

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I'm pretty sure they knew that could happen when they signed the roster

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ValdemieGC

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Yes, they probably won't make it to any VCT event. That doesn't mean they have to shake up the whole roster again. Al0 coulnd't prac before, amilwa just arrived and he is their new IGL. lowel agent pool is expanding.

They need time to be competitive, nothing other than that can be done

Also ppl are kinda overreacting. NP is actually a good team with huge players and the addition of a coach helped them a lot.

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heretics and tsm the same

except all of heretics got poached

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Mortadelo

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No, Heretics at least is trying things, they've been unlucky and the new roster hasn't worked out. But TSM, man they are not even trying

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Aris

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they are not even trying are u stupid evrey pro is trying to win..

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sins

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he talking abt the org not players

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ValdemieGC

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They are not even trying to innovate. To accept that their roster is not going anywhere.

Not the players

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Mortadelo

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Of course the players are trying to win, I'm talking about the org, they've made 1 change in a year of bad results

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All TSM really did in months is bring brax in and then release him lol

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Aris

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bang and levi?

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ValdemieGC

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Well, they did. A little bit late. Don't you think?

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They took a year to realize

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thebrownlegend

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def a bit late lol but both were top 2 in region for first strike

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ValdemieGC

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yeah but TH players literally got poached, what could TH have done instead?