Full Sense was more impressive than EDG

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FS 13-0ed Nuturn and shit on everyone in LCQ last year

EDG barely beat Nth and they are #1 CN team when NTH are only 2nd and ONS are even 4th in KR

not that impressive

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Bro that because its SEA team . No one talks about it . Everyone just obsessed with East Asia team but dont know any SEA team will roll these guys hard . I think eve teams like Order and GE will put a good fight . Well If order was in it they would've won it actually .

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yea I think Bleed can sh1t on EDG hard not sure about GE tho xD

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ONIC and Bleed will style on this whole EA LCQ if they were in it.

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did not NTH defeated XIA?

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The LB run they made before masters in APAC challengers was nothing short of a miracle . Its impressive how they even made it because they looked really weak there too . Indo teams choked hard later otherwise overall they were stronger.

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TS as well

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Eh, I wouldn't count on it completely. Historical results have indicated that beyond DRX and PRX, there's not much difference between JP, KR, CN, and SEA teams.

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Maybe not JP their top teams are good too but cant say about KR . They really are weak compared to SEA except DRX ofc .
And cant say about CN we haven't seen their game enough yet .

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If they dont choke

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Ryuji

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Lots of people are joining new EDG Flair clown clb

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Asphyxia

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Literal new region..out of nowhere. It's a lot of hopium, but it makes sense of the hype.
Now with that out of the way.

STATS

ZmjjKK https://www.vlr.gg/player/3520/zmjjkk
Derke https://www.vlr.gg/player/5022/derke
f0rsakeN https://www.vlr.gg/player/9801/f0rsaken

ACS STATS (CHAMBER)
ZmjjKK - 300 ACS (thats the most craziet insaniest thing ive seen ever)
Derke - 259 ACS
f0rsakeN - 263 ACS

VCT STATS (90d)
ZmjjKK -100% winrate (MVP of 95% of the matches)
Derke - 80% winrate (MVP of 70% of the matches)
f0rsakeN -90% winrate (MVP of 93% of the matches)

can you take your time to appreciate how insane ZmjjKK is? without a doubt the most talented player to ever touch the game, ever

I'll try to explain briefly why I think he is the best player in the world
Despite his insane aim and movement
The best way to know if a player is a good sentinel is CHAMBER. There is a BIG difference between a good sentinel and a cypher abuser
If he is a good sentinel, he needs to be good with chamber.

derke? not good with chamber
tenz? not good with chamber
f0rsaken? not good with chamber
cned? not good with chamber
meteor? not good with chamber
ardiis? not good with chamber
jamppi? not good with chamber

Thats why I think he is undoubtely the best player in the world. If RIOT by any means decides to nerf chamber and shift the meta we prolly not gonna even hear names like f0rsaken and tenz again :>
He is not killing 40+ per map because when he joined EDG he was forced to play a different role because heat is already a main jett... and lets be honest, every single sentinel nowadays gets 20+ kills per map because team and setups are basically built around you (even mid skrossi managed to get +23 kills with it https://www.vlr.gg/105267/enigma-gaming-vs-global-esports-skyesports-champions-series-gf

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BLJY

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Literal new region..out of nowhere. It's a lot of hopium, but it makes sense of the hype.
Now with that out of the way.

STATS

ZmjjKK https://www.vlr.gg/player/3520/zmjjkk
Derke https://www.vlr.gg/player/5022/derke
f0rsakeN https://www.vlr.gg/player/9801/f0rsaken

ACS STATS (CHAMBER)
ZmjjKK - 300 ACS (thats the most craziet insaniest thing ive seen ever)
Derke - 259 ACS
f0rsakeN - 263 ACS

VCT STATS (90d)
ZmjjKK -100% winrate (MVP of 95% of the matches)
Derke - 80% winrate (MVP of 70% of the matches)
f0rsakeN -90% winrate (MVP of 93% of the matches)

can you take your time to appreciate how insane ZmjjKK is? without a doubt the most talented player to ever touch the game, ever

I'll try to explain briefly why I think he is the best player in the world
Despite his insane aim and movement
The best way to know if a player is a good sentinel is CHAMBER. There is a BIG difference between a good sentinel and a cypher abuser
If he is a good sentinel, he needs to be good with chamber.

derke? not good with chamber
tenz? not good with chamber
f0rsaken? not good with chamber
cned? not good with chamber
meteor? not good with chamber
ardiis? not good with chamber
jamppi? not good with chamber

Thats why I think he is undoubtely the best player in the world. If RIOT by any means decides to nerf chamber and shift the meta we prolly not gonna even hear names like f0rsaken and tenz again :>
He is not killing 40+ per map because when he joined EDG he was forced to play a different role because heat is already a main jett... and lets be honest, every single sentinel nowadays gets 20+ kills per map because team and setups are basically built around you (even mid skrossi managed to get +23 kills with it https://www.vlr.gg/105267/enigma-gaming-vs-global-esports-skyesports-champions-series-gf

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Need a caveat last year's LCQ was a disaster and there was a massive ping issue as well. Not to mention NUTURN at that point was practically on a rolling hill down into a flaming abyss. Exaggerated of course considering their roster, but worth mentioning their results. FULL SENSE practically yeeted them apart. Also while it was a different NORTHEPTION, FS did had to struggle against them in the UBF and GF.

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so FS won with disadvantages or with advantages?

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Honestly, I'd inclined to say both but I just barely block anything related to last year's LCQ

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Tanmayyy

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Whats up dudes, I just wanna give a quick reminder, if you haven't hit that logout button smash that shit right now. I appreciate all the support you guys are the best and go Touch some Grass.

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well its their first international vct make it atleast #2 still impressive

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BLJY

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that fs team was really good as well, beat everyone and looked really good in lcq, they just choked really hard in champions