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Why does south america have more slots than europe, turkey, middle east and africa combined?

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Maybe because Europe isn't the only mass land in the world?

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bro you know we're talking player base for each region not the freaking population

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But maybe they also have much player base

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zakrin72

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europe alone has 2.3m players but brazil plus latam have 450k?

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riot fucked it, there's no fucking way NA and EU have 6 slots
and APAC has 6 SLOTS

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apac has 4 which is reasonable as they have the same playerbase as EU but still SA has also 4??

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APAC has 6 u don't know?

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https://www.vlr.gg/event/1015/valorant-champions-2022 it only shows for east asia and apac, SA means south america

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yeah look at it east asia has 3 and apac has 3

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bro
jp 1
kr 1
lcq (kr+jp) 1
apac 2
lcq 1

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its so fucking stupid that korea and japan have a seperate region mena/cis/turkey dont

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apac combined with oce + sea + south asia

the only one that doesnt make any sense is the east asia slots

STILL the fact that BR is separated from LATAM is more bullshit imo

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but EMEA and NA make like 40% of the player base?

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my brudda thinks playerbase matter, we all know our regions are third world countries. with balance system its only a matter of time that esports will be more recognized here as unpolished gem, and more new players will be attracted. riot strategy.

p.s: same as china. its only a matter of time for player base will growing there

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i would love for that to happen but rn for champs they should put into consideration the current player base

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They combined East Asia and APAC LCQ last year, but this year China is joining. It's fair to give them a more manageable chance at least.

Don't know much about their level, but KR or JP will probably still get the slot.

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why did ASIA get 6 slots? cuz we have China now entering the valo scene, they keep running local tournaments even though Riot doesn't support them. give them a chance bruh, u want this game die in Asia to like CS did before ? cmon bro

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zakrin72

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nvm i fucking forgot DRX and Zeta lmfao what

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yeah it's actually insane that APAC has 6 and EMEA and NA combined have 6

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why insane ? not really..

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NG1nS

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i mean of course it's gonna make sense to you

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uhh i don't know maybe because apac is literally the biggest region

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NG1nS

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biggest in what population? doesn't matter
player base? no way in hell

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Area, indonesia alone is the size of whole europe. 6 slots of APAC is a combination of East Asia, South Asia, Southeast Asia, Oceania (whole other continent).

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NG1nS

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sigh, i just mentioned it doesn't matter how much area or people u have if they're not playing the game
so it's based on PLAYER BASE PLAYER BASE
PEOPLE PLAYING VALORANT NOT THE NUMBER OF BABIES AND PARENTS

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Think of it this way, riot divided APAC into 2 just like Americas and give them both equal opportunity, 3 slots just like other regions except LATAM.

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NG1nS

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think of it this way riot divided EMEA into multiple regions with TURKEY( that according to 2021 stats has the 3rd biggest player base) and CIS and didn't give them any slots like unlike other regions
so how is this fair?

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so what do u think matters ? big region ? EMEA/NA ? why u think ur region big region huh ? it doesn't make sense to call region minor or big region, where littery this is a new game and this game hasn't even been running for 2 years

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APAC here means the entirety of Asia. You do know how large the whole region is, right ? If China starts playing this game probably, they alone will probably get 3 seeds.

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huh? where are the chinese slots? do you understand what i'm talking about ? india is so fucking huge why don't they have 3 slots to themselves?
ur logic is very dumb, we're talking about the current player base not world population or 2025 expectations

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where are the chinese slots? that why riot give APAC and East Asia separated for China to qualif

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Listen:
all the slots were decided before masters 1 so loud performance in m1 didnt affect these slots and so this was decided prob after champs where there was emea domination

NA has 3 slots: this is good
East Asia (Japan, Korea, China) has 3 slots: this is good based on the performance of this region
APAC has 3 slots: good based on performance and population
EMEA has 3 slots: WTH, it should have 4 why does SA get the slot
SA has 4 slots: tf, like leviatan, loud, and one winner from like sa lcq (kru,nip,vivokeyd or something) is good but 2 LCQ winner slots. NAH MAN NAH

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i totally agree

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Latam & BR needs to be a combined region. the slots allocations really bs. Both regions doesn't even have any effect in pings when playing online whatsoever. Unlike APAC with SEA/OCE teams playing with 100 pings against Indians

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there is an effect in ping in latam wdym, you are just talking out of your ass

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like turkey and eu ?
be more specific pls with examples

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way bigger difference, it might not look like it in normal maps but europe is small af, south america is huge and thats not even taking into account the fact there is north latam teams playing who would get 150+ ping against southern teams, if you dont host everything on lan then there it has to be like this because online would be impossible

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its just weird for me since most other esports have BR and LATAM regions combined. and they always play online fine. example: Dota, R6, CS

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because its only southern latam teams so its fine, dota is just peruvians, r6 its all brazil and maybe some argentinians if lucky and cs is just argentinians, those countries all get good ping to brazil, its different if its colombia or even latam north countries, distance from chile capital to colombia capital is 4,446 km, thats more than new delhi to singapore distance which is 4152 km, totally not acceptable conditions for vct, and dont get me strated on if a team is from chile/argentina and the other is from mexico, then its just not just bad ping but impossible

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still doesnt change the fact the preferential treatment for brazil is huge from riot. just like how they've done to Korea and Japan (even the east asia lcq only have 1 spot with china included) . Separated region can only mean Brazil will have a chance to get 3 slots ALONE for champions.

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Stems from the fact BR is basically the last region playing CSGO other than EU/CIS.

Riot was trying to promote it there because BR was not up to expectations last champions. They wanted to have a contender from there, judging from its hypothetical potential.

Turns out Riot doesn't have to try so much after all. Regions are quite balanced in VLR. South America, as of now, deserves 3 seeds at best imo.

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dont get me strated on if a team is from chile/argentina and the other is from mexico, then its just not just bad ping but impossible

Why would anyone get you started with such a stupid take? (besides yourself I suppose) Read that again, slowly.. and remember you're talking about the continent of South America. Mexico would be in the region of their own continent.

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ping is definitely affected because south america is huge.

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idkbro

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yes, imagine a team from chile playing from santiago against a team from colombia, would be terrible and also internet is awful in south america

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oh, ok so it's hard to host online events for the whole of SA

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idkbro

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yes, maybe in the future if they add more servers in different countries and the region develops their internet conecction so there is more choices so for example a team from north latam and one from south latam could maybe play in a central server located in panama or something like that

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language barrier

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this is the only answer that making sense

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idkbro

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totally no, just read what I said, unless you want to ignore north latam region and let it die then you cant have latam+brazil competing online together

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44 country in Euro
2 country Turkey and Russia in Eurasia
54 country in Africa
14 country in Middle East
Total 114 Country in EMEA
Country pcs 114/206 (%54)
Population 2.200.000.000/ 7.900.000.000 (%30) "2nd after Asia"
It is has only 3 slot

12 country in South America
Population 650.000.000 (%8)
and It is has 4 slot

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Cry about it

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bro you guys don't deserve 4

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minte

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https://www.vlr.gg/120236/champions-format

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man promoting the solution on every thread 😂
honest work

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minte

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im just sick of these threads man

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NG1nS

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yeah but riot sometimes listens so we need to create more

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idkbro

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because they are afraid of giving europe too much slots, they dont want it to become like cs so they prefer to fuck europe and give their slots to others, the fact south america gets 4 slots at champions while europe only gets 3 is so funny

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that's easy, EU = low viewership, LATAM = good viewership

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It’s because riot wants to give preference to minor regions. Emea won all the esports trophies while apac has not won a single trophy in esports. They need some assistance so they get 6 slots vs 3.

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Yup, it's fucking hilarious that NA get 3 ok EU get 3 ok then south america has FOUR. How many players does SA even have
It's absurd.

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You said turkey and Middle East as separate things, and almost no one in Africa plays. So it’s basically EU

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zakrin72

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there is a lot of players in north africa!

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avepalto

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cope with it first worlders

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all those slots for none of the teams to make it out of groups

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KRU and LEV own you and your whole family tree

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SA = Loud, LEV, KRU,... ? 4th team will be trash, 3 slots was perfect

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zakrin72

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a fluke can happen and its possible we dont even see kru lmao

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Who beating KRU?

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If you see playoffs, in BR Loud always win comfortably and in LATAM the only struggle is between LEV/KRU. All other BR and LATAM teams get stomped

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i liek One Direction and Justin Bieber

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zakrin72

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both terrible

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hekzy

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it's ok. the game is pretty much dying in europe we can only thank riot for constantly undermining us.

I don't even know what sort of motivation do these EU teams have to compete in such a difficult league with such low viewership only for THREE teams to actually make it to LAN (the entire year). Can't wait to see all the EU orgs pull the plug on this riot cesspool.