This is the first game ever

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Hecking_Love_Tenz

that the power ranking is worthless

literally any masters team can beat another masters team

minor region team can shit on NA/EU

Power ranking #1 and #2 are about to be grouped

It's fun to watch but I've never seen other esports this unstable

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burritx

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Ok

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shahzam2004

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Its because the constant meta changes and the updates same shit as in fortnite

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meta changes all the time in league too but only chinese and koreans dominate the game

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Lmao league

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yea it's a Riot's game too

meta changes every 2~3 months

#12

shahzam2004

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U cant compare moba to tac fps

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Hecking_Love_Tenz

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well tac fps in theory should be less affected by meta changes tbh

It's gun fighting in the end

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shahzam2004

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Precise gunplay

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jackb2016

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i mean in china the team on top is usually different every time (it feels like that at least). Korea pretty consistent though yeah

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No its because there was a FUCKING WAR IN EUROPE AND THEY COULDNT PREPARE AND FNATIC HAD 2 FUCKIGN SUBS 2 SIBS GUCKING FUBS NO PREPERATION AND TEAM LIQUID ONLY PLAYED BECAUSE GMABIT COLDKTNPÖAYED

RUCKEF U META
EU > any meta
Eu owns u
STFU DONT COMPATE EU TO T4 regions

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Azzlack

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Did u said „minor team“ can shit on EU?
GTFO wtf ate u talking?
Eu > All < EU

Are u good? Wtf????????? what the FUCK!! Dude

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sheahhhh

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Yes like last masters

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fdsfghjkjhgf

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last masters fnc had 2 subs and fpx couldnt attend

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sheahhhh

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A full rostered fnatic got 3-0ed by g2 who went and got shit on

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and optic was 2nd seed, so imagine optic didn't attend and only guard did.... u get the point kiddo
seeding matches doesn't matter, at the time fpx was our best team and then fnatic, an both couldn't attend
but that doesn't matter vcz optic deserved it, NOW we're gonna see how this masters go

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seeding matches do matter for placing, especially when it was a 3-0 with a 13-2 map

#26

NG1nS

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you only read what you want don't you?
also guard 13-2'd optic on breeze LMAO

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sheahhhh

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ok so what u cant say what could've happened, the truth is fnatic went with g2 and both teams got shit on, I had originally replied to someone who was making excuses

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NG1nS

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sure buddy

#30

sheahhhh

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ok pal whatever u say lil guy

continue thread →

#5

Enthusiast

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franchise system : " wait for me "

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FoechiGG

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Exactly everyone can win

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dont worry PRX will take out all the western folks

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TheHowling03

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Well gl to them

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shahzam2004

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I feel like val is still very new compared to lol and the meta hasnt fully cemented yet compared to league which is well established by now

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"Unstable"

Yeah, I do not know about that one chief. Teams' beating out favorites is a common thing tbh, we would call a lot of esports unstable if that was the primary determinant.

Fans create narratives around teams and upsets happen because the general expectation is "Team A will shit on Team B", when in reality, the skill gap is significantly smaller than portrayed by fans or even non-existent at times.
If you've followed Guild, for example, you would know that pairing them up with OPTIC could prove to be at least difficult for OPTIC.

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Unsicklaupedy

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do you realize how good this is?

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listen, i agree there is a lot of upsets but bear im mind that every international tournament has been won by either NA or EMEA so there is some kind of consistency but i agree with you on how the meta changes so fast it's a new team every time

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skill gap is close

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This would make sense if the eventual winners hadn't had successful runs in their respective regions/tournaments. Every team that has won has looked near or straight up the best in the respective regions (NA or EMEA) either by peak performance or consistency. At the international stage, different styles and metas will clash and WILL lead to upsets, especially if teams haven't played each other and fail to adapt soon enough to salvage a map. Good fundamentals will get you 7-10 rounds by itself. The rest will be up to your pop off players, site execs or unique strats. And the fact that these matches are close make it apparent that the apparent skill gap that fans think exist at the international level is but a thin veil. And even then, it's always been NA or EMEA winning.

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Im confident that there are a lot of teams that cant beat fnatic