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Icysoda57

think about it,
EU-2 Lans (Acend, M3C)
NA- 2 Lans (SEN, Optic)

both regions are equal in terms of competition against each other i would say
it'll be interesting to see if this keeps the same pattern as last year with EU winning in copenhagen

orrrr
new region comes out on top
brazil? Asia? APAC?

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champions > masters

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not only this but
SEN won a title when there was literally no competition, some teams werent even salaried
opTic? What can we say lol? War + covid ruined everything, lets remember opTic have yet to beat an EU team

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gotta agree, fpx would beat optic ong

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jackb2016

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LDN UTD BEAT FPX AND IF FPX WOULD BEAT OPTIC LDN UTD REAL WORLD CHAMPS

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stepoonas

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true

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jackb2016

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Eag1e

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true. 100t best na team cuz they beat emea twice. They are 2-0 :)

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yungbasel

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Yet to even get a map.

BUT we shouldn't discredit them, they still earned their Iceland win.

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Mojoezx

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which teams weren't salaried?

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ShadowNA

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optic can run over acend

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Styling911

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M3C = CIS

Acend = fluke

2-0 for NA

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PigeX

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You are really good at this.

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Styling911

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Bro you are really old user

come back every 3 months and say 1 comment then dissappear

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PigeX

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Yea I started at First Strike.

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Styling911

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o7

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TmhariMummy

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Dude's making a run for being the most brain-dead guy on this site nd is winning convincingly

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Gomes255

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he saw trembolona and thought he could do better
here we are

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RickyIndian

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STATS

mwzera https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/VK%20mwzera%234324/overview?playlist=competitive&season=all
cNed https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/ACE%20cNed%23carry/overview?season=all
TenZ https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/SEN%20TenZ%230505/overview?playlist=competitive&season=all

DEATHMATCH STATS
mwzera - 86% win rate (thats the insaniest thing ive seen in a while)
cNed - stats not availiable
TenZ - 73% win rate

RANKED STATS
mwzera - 66.3% winrate (MVP of 95% of the matches) proof here https://imgur.com/StiJmpg
cNed - 53.5% winrate (MVP of 13% of the matches)
TenZ - 60.4% winrate (MVP of 15% of the matches)

can you take your time to appreciate how insane mwzera is? without a doubt the most talented player to ever touch the game

I'll try to explain briefly why I think he is the best player in the world
Despite his insane aim and movement
The best way to know if a player is a good duelist is RAZE. There is a BIG difference between a good duelist and a jett abuser
If he is a good duelist, he needs to be good with raze.

heat? not good with raze
aspas? not good with raze
xand? not good with raze
tenz? not good with raze
cned? not good with raze
scream? not good with raze
d3ffo? not good with raze
derke? not good with raze

Thats why I think he is undoubtely the best player in the world. If RIOT by any means decides to nerf jett and shift the meta we prolly not gonna even hear names like cned and tenz again :>
He is not killing 40+ per map because when he joined VK he was forced to play a different role because heat is already a main jett... and lets be honest, every single duelist nowadays gets 20+ kills per map because team and setups are basically built around you (even steel managed to get 20 kills with it https://www.vlr.gg/29398/sentinels-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-playoffs-gf/?game=46692&tab=overview)

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Korea win next masters

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iehn

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everyone been sayin that since m3 last year 😂then gambit won it 😂😂

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I'd say EMEA better currently, FPX and especially FNC on another level, either that or everyone else became shit

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Icysoda57

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it was unfortunate what happened to fnc and especially fpx in iceland, idk though fnc hasn't gotten past their lan curse like optic did in iceland

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justadude

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only EU holds Champions title :)

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Icysoda57

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for now ;)

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NA always win Iceland but thats it.

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If you think about it EU has only won in Berlin..

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yungbasel

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Checkmate haha

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Marhmoud

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There's only been 1 so...

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Pixsy

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M3C = CIS

Acend = fluke

2-0 for NA

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Optic fluke, Sentinels baby run

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whats so bad about that?

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Vectorxz

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champions and masters 2 were both flukes. masters 2 reykjavik all the teams were bad and sentinels out aimed everyone, and same thing at champs, na sent 1 bad team and 1 sick team, and acends current skill shows how bad they rlly are. masters 3 and masters 1 this year had lots of competition with rlly good teams

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The main competitors (EMEA) weren't there tho💀💀

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Meursault

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This is just an excuse. G2 got the second emea seed, it was a team extremely competitive at the EMEA VCT and still they couldn't win a single match. Liquid that shouldn't even have qualified played very well. At the high competitive level the gap between teams is extremely low, it's one mistake or another that will make a team stand out. The only team that wasn't with full force was Fnatic and they played well considering the subs. But i still thinks Optic would've won this masters even if FPX were there.

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Hmm...what other didn't couldn't win a single match in VCT being the #1 seed from their region....🤔🤔....oh yea The Guard💀💀....I see the competitive gap u are talking about but literally G2 is the worst team as an example....the fact that Liquid playedt that well being the 4th seed showed a lot about the region as a whole.....and no one can change the fact that it was much more easier for Optic to win Iceland without any decent EMEA competition around

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Meursault

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I think it shows more about Liquid, they had the time and practiced a lot to correct the mistakes they made in vct. G2 played well at the last VCT emea playoffs i don't know why they are a bad example. But what you said about The Guard i also said it below. I just believe the Optic adaptability was insane, they made an amazing run. That's why i think they could win even if FPX was there.

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Yea the whole thing kinda ruined the event...I was pretty hyped to see FPX and Fnatic and was actually pretty happy when Optic when but FPX not being there and Fnatic with No Derke took a lot away from Iceland. It was still really fun tho.... especially Zeta's golden run

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Icysoda57

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emea has good competition i agree but only because they are encompassed as a larger region than NA

good emea teams in no specific order
fnc
m3c
fpx
liquid
guild
g2 maybe lol

NA
Optic
100T bias
who knows

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NA rn has an issue of being a one team region.... people hate to accept it but Optic is miles better than any other NA team and that's concerning and yea general EU has a no. good teams is cz of a lot of people and a thriving eSports scene (compared to APAC....India and China full of people yet eSports ain't much in India and China not there in Valorant)

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thatpower

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emea is a 2 team region. fnatic and fpx look miles better than everyone else while na is definitely much more competitive atm.

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Meursault

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Considering just the international matches, as region i still thinks EMEA looks more competitive than NA. NA did well at the first international master, EMEA did better at the Masters Berlin 2021 (i think it was 3 NA teams and 3 EMEA teams) NA got 1 more spot because of the first master i think. The champions 2021 (4 EMEA teams on playoffs against 1 NA team), Masters Reykjavik 2022 (3 asians teams, 1 BR, 1 NA and 1 EMEA). Considering the recent results we can say Optic is a consistent and great team but we can't say the same thing about the NA region, The Guard was disappointing. Optic won by beating all regions except EMEA. We can easily say the top teams from each regions are pretty equal. I don't think NA and EMEA are equal because EMEA did very well at champions and we should consider it more than all the other Masters

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ntnoob

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still 2-1 for EU

this year Iceland event didn't count

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NA started the year with Iceland wins both times but they fell hard last year, let's see if they can win anything else

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I mean sure, but at the same time anyone can make an excuse for 3/4 of those events to be fluke wins. (Berlin was kind of the only event that didn't seem like a fluke and everyone seems to agree upon that).

But Champions does mean more than any of the masters events.

Hopefully we see other regions win a masters or even champions because only having 1-2 dominant regions isn't great for the esport scene as a whole imo and is alot healthier in the state where any team from any region can win the big one. Hell, Zeta was ranked 12 going into Iceland and finished top 3

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How are these kids saying champions was a fluke when even if acend lost it still wouldve been gambit or liquid that won

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So braindead, u guys have been comparing NA and EU for ages now, giving dumb excuses every time, so childish

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masters and champions all held in EU

6 - 0 for EU

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NA exposed once again lmao

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W

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EU - 1 Champions and 1 Masters.
NA - 2 Masters.
After you say the truth about this we can speak.