EMEA ALL TIME TOP 10

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Chovymaker

1- Acend
2- Gambit
3- Fnatic
4- Team Liquid
5- FunPlus Phoenix
6- G2
7- SuperMassive Blaze
8- Guild
9- NaVi
10- Oxygen

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sweetdreams11

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oxygen ???

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Chovymaker

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they were in almost every tournament, they deserve to be here

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Styling911

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EU* only

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WinterZ

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https://www.vlr.gg/83450/team-falcons-vs-fokus-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-promotion-group-b/?game=all&tab=overview

top MENA team btw. The region still has a long way to go before becoming relevant

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Styling911

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Nice 95 ping vs 15 with packet loss

nice comparision

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WinterZ

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ion think the scoreline would be much closer even with 0 ping

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Styling911

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They would destory this fluked fokus team

just wait for next year when they invite mena team to real enviroment like other teams

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WinterZ

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aight bet. Ill come back to this post after 2023

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Styling911

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hahahahahahaha

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Styling911

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Give fair opportunity to all regions then call IT EMEA then you have this

1- Fnatic
2- Gambit
3- Ascend
4- Team Liquid
5- FunPlus Phoenix
6- G2
7- BBL
8- Falcons
9- NaVi
10- RAAD

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61Hiko

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How can u put fnatic on 1. when their only achievement is placing 2nd in first international masters, while Acend has masters EU + champions and Gambit masters 3 + 2nd place champions.
FALCONS RAAD LMFAO
BBL is also not Top 7 all time. Not even Top 10

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Styling911

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stfu asced fan OMEGALUL

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KageJ

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I can't disagree, we are talking about achievements; not current performance

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BBL_Wtcn

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L take BBL top 10 easy

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wkeyspectre

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fokus 13-2 13-3 your best team and you put them on 8 and 10. 0/8 list and bait lmao

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Styling911

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bruh you have no idea what you are talking about

stick to 5 dualist region

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wkeyspectre

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didn't answer me + paper rex beats your shit team anytime of the day

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Styling911

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Paper rex got lucky once and you think they are good its fucking funny

0 achemient in your whole life from your region in any game

you think valorant is diffrent? because you got lucky once you dumb 10iq rat

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wkeyspectre

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still has more achievements than MENA

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Ibis

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First delusional MENA fan

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Styling911

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I see your flair ;)

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jackb2016

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If you don’t put Acend or Gambit #1 your list is pretty much irrelevant

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NG1nS

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chovy you might not be that bad after all

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Chovymaker

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I am always right. About Derke, Cryo, Acend, M3C, X, Y and Z

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NG1nS

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i don't follow ur opinions, but cryo is overrated and you will see that soon i promise

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Chovymaker

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When you see Cryo in Copenhagen, come.

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NG1nS

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won't happen

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Chovymaker

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Why do you hate Cryo? he is not the best player but definitely top 5 in NA

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NG1nS

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i don't hate him at all
the fact that you can put him in top 5 even NA is overrated
i don't hate him i just think he's extremely overrated

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trola

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W

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PrTsty

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gambit >>>>>>> acend if we are talking about skill
acend sure won champions but hnestly a fluke, still the team with the biggest achievements tho

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Hewcho

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ur saying gambit better than but acend won vs gambit more
https://www.vlr.gg/49278/acend-vs-gambit-esports-red-bull-home-ground-2-qf/?game=56165&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/51296/acend-vs-gambit-esports-valorant-champions-2021-gf/?game=57985&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/30769/acend-vs-gambit-esports-champions-tour-stage-3-emea-challengers-playoffs-lbf/?game=47931&tab=overview

people saying that champions was fluke but actually it's not. Acend only struggled vs vivo keyd and gambit at finals while gambit gave 1 map vs every team they played. Gambit was only good at masters 2 berlin.

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PrTsty

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why are we bringing up redbull homeground now?
Acend has always struggled and was literally carried by zeek and cNed most of the time, only time they were actually all on point was at champions after that vivo keyd game.
and for gambit they have always played close games against much weaker oppositiong like against CR in masters 3 aswell, doesnt make up for the fact that they were consistently winning big matches, making huge comebacks and were never out of question. how was gambit only good in masters 2 berlin? btw it was masters 3
they won CIS masters (tbf wasnt that hard) then got 3rd in challengers 2 (where acend didnt even qualify to) won challengers 3, won masters with a 3-0 finals, got second in a close game against acend in champs, and now in challengersw one they didnt qualify for masters becaue of 0.02 seconds and that even after playing like 6 games in 2 days with way less preparation.
now lets look at acend
won masters 1 EU
missed out on challengers 2 (didnt even make it close to challengers)
made a huge roster change by getting zeek
made masters 3 as the 3rd out of 4, got second in their group and top 8 in total
won champs
big roster move
didnt even get to playoffs in challengers 1 2022

now the only tournament acend was better in was that one final game 3-2 in champs finals which couldve literally gone either way adn that redbull tournametn that noone cared about
gambit has been with this roster since day one and had not had a asingle bad performance, theri worst performance was getting top 6 only in challengers 1, were u can clearly see that the war and the whole new schedule made it very hard for them to keep up their game

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PrTsty

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6 out of 6 downvotes didnt even read

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PrTsty

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also saying that acend won morte times against Gambit is like saying that LG has been overall better than SEN because they won more times than SEN in direct matches

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NG1nS

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ummm lg is better than sen???
thank you for contradicting your self XD

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PrTsty

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We are talking about all time lol, SEN won masters 1&2, got to masters 3 and champipns while LG hasnt made a single LAN event.
Noone is talking about current form, or do you think acend is number 1 atm

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NG1nS

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are you dumb? when SEN was winning all masters 2 and challengers they were beating LG ?????
doesn't change the fact that rn LG are better than SEN bcz they have more wins over them
the same with acend they were better than gambit bcz they won most of their matches, the only match gambit won was seeding to berlin
listen ACE>GAMBIT doesn't mean ACE>ALL
ACE's playstyle worked well against GAMBIT that's all, maybe bcz ACE scrims against them all the time gives them advantage over international teams so they know how to play against them but that doesn't change the fact that during 2021 ACEND was better than GAMBIT

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PrTsty

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we are arguing about the best team overall in EMEA, Gambit couldve lost 100 times to acend doesnt change the fact that gambit overall has been way more consistent and has better tournament results

u really cant say acend was better when literally the only tournament threy placed above Gambit was champions

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PrTsty

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challengers 2:
Gambit: 3rd
Acend: didnt even qualify for the top 8

challengers 3:
gambit 1st
acend 3rd

masters 3
gambit 1st
acend top 8

chmapions
gambit 2nd
acend 1st
(by one map btw)

challengers 1
gambit top 6 (not making top 3 because of 0.02 seconds even after all the circumstances)
acend top 10, getting grouped as 5th

now stop acting as if champions was way harder than masters 3 to win, sure acend has the bigger achievments because of the Champion trophy wbich just is the biggest thing to get but that doesnt make them the better team

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NG1nS

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i like how u mention circumstances when it's gambit and ignore when it's acend nice bias
also acend made roster changes gambit didn't
are u really mentioning 0.02 like it was some bug or something bro they lost that's the end of it
CHAMPIONS>ALL
ACE>GAMBIT through 2021
so skill wise they are also better than gambit

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PrTsty

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roster changes speak against acend tho, since we are speaking about teams not orgs

and yes I mention 0.02 seconds because it shows how close gambit was to making the cut into top 3, while acend was miles away from even getting close to top 3

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NG1nS

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yes acend was miles away having 1 player's family in ukrain in the middle of bombing and 1 player with mental health issues
but nah we can't mention their circumstances only the 0.02 second matters yep

continue thread →

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PrTsty

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what am I reading?
acend didnt make challengers 2 and made only top 8 in masters 3, how where they better than gambit in 2021?
I really think you dont understand the difference between the best team and the team with the biggest achievements.

Easy example: S1mple best player all time csgo
astralis players: biggest achievements of all players in csgo
there is a difference

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NG1nS

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bro i already explained it acend is better than gambit but gambit is more consistent
doesn't change the fact that acend beats gambit every time

continue thread →

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i believe this is about achievements and accolades, not skill

but yes i agree gambit > acend for achievements (though its close)

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PrTsty

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I mean even for achievements wise I think the Champions trophy beats everything else so I would put acend over it but the OP said top 10 all time

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eeeeeshhh

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Even as a fnatic fan you have to put liquid above them liquid won the redbull event and masters 3 even made it further at champions and was only one spot behind liquid the previous masters

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queueK

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G2 > FPX because of ignition series

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Depressed_TSM_Fan

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Gambit>Asscend

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61Hiko

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Acend / Gambit
Fnatic
Liquid
FPX
G2
SMB
Guild
BBL / Navi

Edit: my ranking is 1. 3. 4..., but it changes it to 1. 2.

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no_noise_979

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Gambit
Acend
Liquid
Fnatic
Guild
G2
FPX
BBL
SuperMassive Blaze
NaVi

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Kenning

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1- Acend
2- Gambit
3- Team Liquid
4- Fnatic
5- G2
6- FunPlus Phoenix
7- Guild
8- BBL / Navi
9- Oxygen
10- Super Massive Blaze

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r0xi3

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Fnatic
Fpx
Team Liquid
G2
Acend
M3C
Guild
BBL
Navi
Focus
OG LDN UTD
BIG

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no_noise_979

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its meant to be all time not current

#42

r0xi3

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Replace Fpx with M3C and Fnc with Acend and the list would still be relevant.

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BBL_Wtcn

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W take

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koeNN

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lmao fpx > g2? G2 6-3 FPX, G2 won more tournaments and G2 has more international appearances

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kapteN

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Gambit / M3C
fnatic
Acend
Liquid
G2
Guild
FPX
Heretics (people forget how good they were at the start of valorant, and this is an all time list)
NiP (again, early days they used to win versus G2 and Acend all the time, not good anymore but they were among the best back then)
NaVi

This is based on performance over the entire lifespan of Valorant, not only the last 6 months like half the lists here