people on this site lmao

so i saw this thread: https://www.vlr.gg/96801/females-in-valorant
and the first comment is someone saying to the thread poster to use the word ,,woman" instead of ,,female" ,then i proceeded to explain why i use this word ( its due to the fact that when i talk about a female my age (17) it feels weird refering to her as a woman, especially since in my country at least people use the word woman to describe full grown females, like if you talk about a 16-19 yo female and refer to her as a woman, people will look at you like a pedo, so therefore the term ,,female" is more inclusive and easier to use).

and then just because i used the word ,,female" ,some idiot called me an incel. Like holy shit, i get that there will always be stupid people in this world but when i see people who genuinly believe ,,female" is an offensive term,i cant help but look at them and ask myself ,,what is wrong with these people? how can someone have a rational capacity set so low that they believe a scientific term used for so many years is now offensive just because some radicals on twitter decided so? the brain of this people,what is it filled with,fucking air?"

if i talk directly to a female and she tells me to refer to her as a woman,if that female is 20+ yo i have no problem doing that,but its truly hilarious in a very sad way that theres so many white knight males telling other males how ALL females should be reffered to.

,,b-but the word ,,female" is offensive because it is objectifying people down to their genitalia"
if you truly believe this, not only you are a cuck, but you also have a very low iq. Imagine if someone said the term ,,male" in a random way like ,,alpha male" and some random person started explaining why the word male is offensive because it objectifies people down to their genitalia xDDDD . Fucking idiots.

Worrying about this is making you look dumber. If you're right just ignore him.

whoo who whowwhomwho who asked?

chloeburbank [#3]

whoo who whowwhomwho who asked?

thank you, chloeburbank

if woman sounds too old just say girl instead?

"alpha male" is just a totally different team and is used in a vastly different way than the way they were using the word female.

who

gweees [#7]

who

asked?

you're a weirdo bro 😹

Some people just have a lot of fcking time to be worrying over something like this.

mf with 17 posts cares about how other people on this site think about him lmao

Demise [#8]

asked?

u know ball

Idgaf, you have a vagina you're a female, you have a penis you're a male. End of the story

SeaCDragon [#5]

if woman sounds too old just say girl instead?

can work, but then again i dont see why a word with no offensive meaning should be considered offensive and why it should be avoided just because a limited group of females feels offended when you call them that. Like am i supposed to care about every restricted group of people who takes a simple word and makes it sound so deep and discriminatory? No im not.

Avix [#6]

"alpha male" is just a totally different team and is used in a vastly different way than the way they were using the word female.

how do you use the word female other than to describe a person who is a female?

and if you can't, how is that offensive?

gweees [#12]

u know ball

No tell me what is ball

Amok [#15]

how do you use the word female other than to describe a person who is a female?

and if you can't, how is that offensive?

there will always be other things to call women
if they're 16-19 just say girl and older just say women
other people have already made the point of calling people females, it objectifies them
its not that hard to just switch ur vocabulary lol

Any askers?

100% sure that guy is not straight and/or is into the 'cancel culture on twitter'

simza [#11]

mf with 17 posts cares about how other people on this site think about him lmao

it took me 5 minutes to write this thread. I dont see how thats me caring about something in an excessive way. I made this thread because i want to have a discussion about a certain topic, not because i care that someone called me an incel. I simply used that as a way to begin the conversation about what i truly wanted to talk about

LegendaryPP [#10]

Some people just have a lot of fcking time to be worrying over something like this.

for real lmao

Avix [#17]

there will always be other things to call women
if they're 16-19 just say girl and older just say women
other people have already made the point of calling people females, it objectifies them
its not that hard to just switch ur vocabulary lol

so referring to their biological sex is objectifying them? boy things have changed

edit: sorry is it offensive that i said boy? i don't understand any of this anymore

Cringe

chloeburbank [#3]

whoo who whowwhomwho who asked?

the fact that the only way people can counter what i said is with idiotic phrases like ,,who asked" or ,,cringe" shows that i am right. If they truly wouldnt care, they wouldnt reply to me and let my thread die, but the fact they did reply shows that to a limited extent at least, they care, but they have no arguments against me so they rely on the sheep tactic of spamming ,,who asked" , because thats the only thing a sheep can do

valorantfanboy69 [#24]

the fact that the only way people can counter what i said is with idiotic phrases like ,,who asked" or ,,cringe" shows that i am right. If they truly wouldnt care, they wouldnt reply to me and let my thread die, but the fact they did reply shows that to a limited extent at least, they care, but they have no arguments against me so they rely on the sheep tactic of spamming ,,who asked" , because thats the only thing a sheep can do

i did not ask

chloeburbank [#25]

i did not ask

thank you for informing us

valorantfanboy69 [#14]

can work, but then again i dont see why a word with no offensive meaning should be considered offensive and why it should be avoided just because a limited group of females feels offended when you call them that. Like am i supposed to care about every restricted group of people who takes a simple word and makes it sound so deep and discriminatory? No im not.

its just that it sounds weird to say female is all
and they prolly called u an incel cuz that's how incels talk, not that they're right when they do that but that's where it comes from

trembolonaRage [#19]

100% sure that guy is not straight and/or is into the 'cancel culture on twitter'

common trembolona L

Amok [#22]

so referring to their biological sex is objectifying them? boy things have changed

edit: sorry is it offensive that i said boy? i don't understand any of this anymore

Your missing my point, its just better to say other things then female, your just making yourself look insensitive and weird

you're bitchless + learn how to interact like a normal person to women

hellohello139 [#30]

you're bitchless + learn how to interact like a normal person to women

no use arguing here, these people still watch "ben shapiro owns feminists" and call people who respect women, simps lmao

trembolonaRage [#19]

100% sure that guy is not straight and/or is into the 'cancel culture on twitter'

You are correct.

amyra [#31]

no use arguing here, these people still watch "ben shapiro owns feminists" and call people who respect women, simps lmao

,,No use arguing here"
Easiest way to say you have no arguments
,,These people still watch ben shapiro"
Making assumptions about me, nice
,,and call people who respect women simps"
What does respecting women mean to you,because if someone would tell me the word male is offensive, i would call him an idiot, does that mean i dont respect males?
If respecting women means changing my vocabulary because some limited group of people managed to convince an entire zombie horde that a scientific term is somehow sexist, then you are right, i dont respect women, and i dont respect anyone.
But then again thats not what respecting women means to me. To me that means showing a person of the female gender the exact same human decency i would show to anyone else, which i am doing.

valorantfanboy69 [#14]

can work, but then again i dont see why a word with no offensive meaning should be considered offensive and why it should be avoided just because a limited group of females feels offended when you call them that. Like am i supposed to care about every restricted group of people who takes a simple word and makes it sound so deep and discriminatory? No im not.

you dont have to care, but they also dont have to stay silent if they dont like it. as long as you are ok with people calling you out, theres no law that says you cant say female

valorantfanboy69 [#33]

,,No use arguing here"
Easiest way to say you have no arguments
,,These people still watch ben shapiro"
Making assumptions about me, nice
,,and call people who respect women simps"
What does respecting women mean to you,because if someone would tell me the word male is offensive, i would call him an idiot, does that mean i dont respect males?
If respecting women means changing my vocabulary because some limited group of people managed to convince an entire zombie horde that a scientific term is somehow sexist, then you are right, i dont respect women, and i dont respect anyone.
But then again thats not what respecting women means to me. To me that means showing a person of the female gender the exact same human decency i would show to anyone else, which i am doing.

Why don't you just respect what people find offensive? If some women are offended when they are called "females" than why don't you respect their opinion and call them what they want to be called? Who are you to decide what is acceptable to be offended at and what is not? You aren't a women and yet you think you can decide for them what is offensive to them. It's not hard to call people what they wish to be called and respect everyone. Please try to have an open mind.

Avix [#29]

Your missing my point, its just better to say other things then female, your just making yourself look insensitive and weird

clearly i am missing the point. somehow trying to understand is being insensitive and weird, i don't understand that either.

Some people have too much time on their hands🤣

agree but just ignore those people, they like the attention.

Neonfreak [#35]

Why don't you just respect what people find offensive? If some women are offended when they are called "females" than why don't you respect their opinion and call them what they want to be called? Who are you to decide what is acceptable to be offended at and what is not? You aren't a women and yet you think you can decide for them what is offensive to them. It's not hard to call people what they wish to be called and respect everyone. Please try to have an open mind.

some people don't like the idea of constantly having to worry about what each person wants to be called. you can't tell by appearance anymore. if you call them objectively factual things such as their biological sex, you're wrong half the time. if you correctly gender an individual and then use the term to describe that gender (female), youre being offensive. people dont want to have to do all that work just so someone can be called what they wanna be called.

Theres very little open-mindedness from either side of this argument.

Neonfreak [#35]

Why don't you just respect what people find offensive? If some women are offended when they are called "females" than why don't you respect their opinion and call them what they want to be called? Who are you to decide what is acceptable to be offended at and what is not? You aren't a women and yet you think you can decide for them what is offensive to them. It's not hard to call people what they wish to be called and respect everyone. Please try to have an open mind.

1. Because no matter what you say there is always going to be someone who disagrees or feels offended of what you said,and caring about how my words affect other people is to much of an effort for me.
2. If i am talking to a woman and she tells me to refer to her as that instead of female, of course i would do that. Thats not what im against,what im against is radicals or beta males who act like the word ,,female" should be banned from usage entirely. If you want to be called in a certain way its whatever, but no one has any right to tell me what words to use when im not having a conversation with them and im simply using a general scientific term such as ,,females"
   ,,but the word ,,female" is offensive to women"
   No one has any right to speak for an entire gender, the word female is offensive to you and if i would be talking to you i would respect that but since im not,i dont have to.
3. I dont have to be someone in order to say that people who think everyone should stop saying a scientific term because they dont like it are stupid. This world is a battleground of opinions and i dont care enough about other people in order to say to myself ,,i shouldnt say this because it might offend others" .
4. What do you mean that im deciding for them? Since when have have women collectively come together and decided the word ,,female " is offensive? Because from what i see,its mostly men who complain about this word, and women who feel offended by this word are a minority to those who dont or dont care how you adress them.

Amok [#39]

some people don't like the idea of constantly having to worry about what each person wants to be called. you can't tell by appearance anymore. if you call them objectively factual things such as their biological sex, you're wrong half the time. if you correctly gender an individual and then use the term to describe that gender (female), youre being offensive. people dont want to have to do all that work just so someone can be called what they wanna be called.

Theres very little open-mindedness from either side of this argument.

It's literally not hard at all...using the terms girl and woman is an unbelievably easy thing that you can do to make people more comfortable. It's just changing two words in your vocabulary. Also, I don't think most people that are androgynous expect you to correctly guess what to call them. After they tell you, just respect them and call them what they want to be called. Do you struggle with nicknames? If someone told you they would rather go by a nickname than the name on their birth certificate, do you constantly worry about what to call them? I really don't understand what is so difficult about it that prevents you from doing it.

Giannero [#13]

Idgaf, you have a vagina you're a female, you have a penis you're a male. End of the story

Common Giannero W

trembolonaRage [#19]

100% sure that guy is not straight and/or is into the 'cancel culture on twitter'

rare W

tuffybass [#42]

Common Giannero W

Common? You sure?

valorantfanboy69 [#40]

1. Because no matter what you say there is always going to be someone who disagrees or feels offended of what you said,and caring about how my words affect other people is to much of an effort for me.
2. If i am talking to a woman and she tells me to refer to her as that instead of female, of course i would do that. Thats not what im against,what im against is radicals or beta males who act like the word ,,female" should be banned from usage entirely. If you want to be called in a certain way its whatever, but no one has any right to tell me what words to use when im not having a conversation with them and im simply using a general scientific term such as ,,females"
   ,,but the word ,,female" is offensive to women"
   No one has any right to speak for an entire gender, the word female is offensive to you and if i would be talking to you i would respect that but since im not,i dont have to.
3. I dont have to be someone in order to say that people who think everyone should stop saying a scientific term because they dont like it are stupid. This world is a battleground of opinions and i dont care enough about other people in order to say to myself ,,i shouldnt say this because it might offend others" .
4. What do you mean that im deciding for them? Since when have have women collectively come together and decided the word ,,female " is offensive? Because from what i see,its mostly men who complain about this word, and women who feel offended by this word are a minority to those who dont or dont care how you adress them.

1. I have never seen someone genuinely offended by using the word woman or girl. The argument of "everyone is always going to offended by something" is stupid and people use it to avoid having to change anything in their behavior or vocabulary to accommodate someone else. And if one person is offended by it? Then call them by their name or some shit. I am so tired of people acting like them having to avoid the use of an offensive word is an enormous ordeal and changes their whole life. How is that too much of an effort? It's literally the bare minimum of respect.

2) I'm glad to hear that you would call someone what they ask to be called. That is the only thing I am advocating for. I don't think we should ban words or censor things, I just think that if we can make people more comfortable with our language than we should. I'm not speaking for the every women. In my previous response, I said that some women get offended. Since some women have a problem with "female", than I think we can use a word that is seemingly not offensive to any of them.

3 and 4) I think my main problem in this area was that you said, " if someone would tell me the word male is offensive, i would call him an idiot". To me, you seem you have clear ideas on what should be found offensive and not offensive, but I'm glad to hear that you call people what they want to be called. My only point was that you might not understand why those women were offended and to them it is very much not idiotic.

Anyways, my main thing is that we should call people what they want to be called and respect people who are offended by a certain word. You seem to do that. I hope you have a great day :)

Giannero [#13]

Idgaf, you have a vagina you're a female, you have a penis you're a male. End of the story

trans people :(

Amok [#36]

clearly i am missing the point. somehow trying to understand is being insensitive and weird, i don't understand that either.

im not gonna try and explain it to you, go learn some common sense

Avix [#47]

im not gonna try and explain it to you, go learn some common sense

go learn how to talk to some bitches jfc

Avix [#47]

im not gonna try and explain it to you, go learn some common sense

Female is right, no fucking wrong thing with that you fucking simp

I've been replying to the dumbshit they've been saying but they are University professors, while Im just a student so I guess respect?