They're so far ahead of other teams in their regions dont you think? I thought guard was gonna be good but they didn't achieve anything at all. I hope next masters NA and EU are fully back. I support the whole APAC region first and foremost but NA is where the fun is at.
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Revlo [#5]I don’t think they are that far ahead at all, C9 V1 and The Guard are all close. New SEN could be up there as well.
I agree with C9 but the rest are pretty far imho. And I don't know about SEN after signing a 4th duelist main. Gosh I'm done with SEN.
vyltx [#3]most NA r onliners or choke when they need to win the most, same goes for KR
Hey. Hi there. Go fuck yourself 😘
No terrible thread. Guard was neck and neck with optic throughout NA qualies however they didn't show up in first 2 international games. C9 imo would have routed all of these teams, possibly could have struggled with loud but would be an all NA final most likely. Rest of NA is a step below atm maybe V1 could have done damage but they looked weak when the big games happened.
UnEstoppable [#9]Hey. Hi there. Go fuck yourself 😘
its true tho, c9 and v1 could've easily won against guard but they just didnt do it
same goes for drx, couldve won tourney but did the el classico kr choke
thatpower [#7]i felt like most regions had 1 team way ahead of everyone else this vct
Except maybe APAC including KR and JP because those regions are really close in terms of level of play. I'd argue they're at the same level as NA, EU, or other regions. There are just that one team from each region that stands out :)
vyltx [#11]its true tho, c9 and v1 could've easily won against guard but they just didnt do it
same goes for drx, couldve won tourney but did the el classico kr choke
optic is the only team from na so far that is consistent on online and lan
Revlo [#5]I don’t think they are that far ahead at all, C9 V1 and The Guard are all close. New SEN could be up there as well.
Lol Sentinels roster doesn't even adjust to the roles that might win them matches, how could they be top in NA?
vyltx [#3]most NA r onliners or choke when they need to win the most, same goes for KR
NA 2 wins
EU 2 wins
EVERY OTHER FUCKING REGION, 0 WINS.
_RAT_ [#15]NA 2 wins
EU 2 winsEVERY OTHER FUCKING REGION, 0 WINS.
whats that gotta with anything lul
vyltx [#16]whats that gotta with anything lul
Top 2 regions everybody else is irrelevant still, I'll wait for a different region to win a masters or champs...
vyltx [#16]whats that gotta with anything lul
It was a cute attempt in upper final, but daddy came home for grands
vyltx [#11]its true tho, c9 and v1 could've easily won against guard but they just didnt do it
same goes for drx, couldve won tourney but did the el classico kr choke
Idk about that. People are doubting The Guard because they got blown out by Paper Rex, but that was was a terrible matchup for them. The Guard probably was the team with the closest loss to Optic (I know Optic lost to Loud and Xerxia, but The Guard was very formidable is my point. The problem is The Guard is very structured. Relying on set plays and baiting utility to win games. Paper Rex does not play into that, and they honestly played far more loose than the Guard. This led to a perfect storm for the Guard to get rolled.
Where Optic succeeds where most of NA, and most teams in the world, Optic knows how to balance structure and chaos.
vyltx [#16]whats that gotta with anything lul
“What does two different NA teams winning a major have to do with anything lulz”
_RAT_ [#18]Top 2 regions everybody else is irrelevant still, I'll wait for a different region to win a masters or champs...
yeah sure but thats not what im trying to say, optic is easily one of the crazy consistent team out there but eu fell off hope they bounce back tho
vyltx [#22]yeah sure but thats not what im trying to say, optic is easily one of the crazy consistent team out there but eu fell off hope they bounce back tho
EU will my brotha FPX looks good, GMB is always scary at times and G2 can do some more homework. FNC will get a comfort roster and be back.
Tbh if NA and EU weren't the 2 best regions, that would be embarrassing. Huge populations and competition in own regions fair play to the others that beat G2 and pushed Optic.
_RAT_ [#23]EU will my brotha FPX looks good, GMB is always scary at times and G2 can do some more homework. FNC will get a comfort roster and be back.
Tbh if NA and EU weren't the 2 best regions, that would be embarrassing. Huge populations and competition in own regions fair play to the others that beat G2 and pushed Optic.
yeah but thats the point they didnt show up when they had to. i can give a pass to FPX since the war and all that but the rest
valulrantefanboy [#2]not really, NA is very competitive region just like EU
agree, NA has 5 teams who can compete at masters, the rest are tier 2 tho
It’s understandable if you don’t watch the regional matches but NA is SUPER competitive among the top 8 teams.
The teams lose to each other all the time. The guard is probably a bit inflated because of 1 great tournament, but you could easily argue that c9 is the best team in NA and they didn’t even place top 3 in NA.
valorant_fanboy_69 [#26]agree, NA has 5 teams who can compete at masters, the rest are tier 2 tho
5?
Optic? maybe
The Guard? Reykjavík 2022 proved they are trash
C9? after what I saw in Champions they have no chance
XSET? who?
V1? even LG is better than them
Danny [#28]bro optic didn't even win the qualifier lmao
and guess what? they won the masters... No NA team would've beaten LOUD like they did
kristof [#29]5?
Optic? maybe
The Guard? Reykjavík 2022 proved they are trash
C9? after what I saw in Champions they have no chance
XSET? who?
V1? even LG is better than them
results andy
ogking [#30]and guess what? they won the masters... No NA team would've beaten LOUD like they did
There’s no way to prove that other than speculation from guard underperforming
Danny [#32]There’s no way to prove that other than speculation from guard underperforming
what speculation?? Guard completely choked at the biggest stage of masters 1 and never won once. C9 would've done better than they did and win in the lowers.
kristof [#29]5?
Optic? maybe
The Guard? Reykjavík 2022 proved they are trash
C9? after what I saw in Champions they have no chance
XSET? who?
V1? even LG is better than them
Because all the players in the guard had no experience in Lan which is the reason why they didn't perform as great. And besides the expectations and stuff the nerves etc. Got to them
kristof [#29]5?
Optic? maybe
The Guard? Reykjavík 2022 proved they are trash
C9? after what I saw in Champions they have no chance
XSET? who?
V1? even LG is better than them
the fact you're saying "Optic? Maybe" tells me this is FAT bait.
ogking [#33]what speculation?? Guard completely choked at the biggest stage of masters 1 and never won once. C9 would've done better than they did and win in the lowers.
I’m saying that it’s unfair to say that optic is “far ahead of other teams in their regions” just because the first seed choked
Fracture [#35]the fact you're saying "Optic? Maybe" tells me this is FAT bait.
No. He’s just dumb as a box of rocks
Fracture [#35]the fact you're saying "Optic? Maybe" tells me this is FAT bait.
Bruh this guy is the biggest baiter on vlr. All he does is say na is bad lol
Danny [#36]I’m saying that it’s unfair to say that optic is “far ahead of other teams in their regions” just because the first seed choked
Why is it unfair? Guard had results coming into LAN and they choked big time against Optic. Not only that they lost to PRX without having to put a fight.
ogking [#39]Why is it unfair? Guard had results coming into LAN and they choked big time against Optic. Not only that they lost to PRX without having to put a fight.
Guard choking on lan doesn’t mean that ever NA team but optic sucks
vyltx [#13]optic is the only team from na so far that is consistent on online and lan
Optic isn’t always consistent. Look at optic vs rise and optic vs Xerxia. But when it matters they step up.
Kiss-Shot [#8]I agree with C9 but the rest are pretty far imho. And I don't know about SEN after signing a 4th duelist main. Gosh I'm done with SEN.
Yo same. They’re so stuck in the past.
Strafe7 [#38]Bruh this guy is the biggest baiter on vlr. All he does is say na is bad lol
well hes obv right na only ever won masters no champs so they have to be shit
GLN321 [#17]people forget that optic had to qualify to the play offs in their last match. They literally could've been grouped if knights beat them and rise didn't choke
Exactly they were not consistent but they’ve improved even more
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