Redbull homeground discussion

Firstly the format :
This is a single elim bracket of Bo5 with 8 team and a special twist : The homeground concept :Each team will pick a « home map » , if they win theirs and the opponents home map they win 2-0.Pretty interesting but might get really underwhelming in case both teams have the same best map.

STORYLINES :
In orders of my power ranking
SUMN FC : Safe bet/Favourite of the tournament,established teams with teamplay ,tactics and firepower, very hard opponents for the 3 teams that have made roster changes recently
GUILD : Sayf already has synergy with the players , those guys where top 3 in EU ,DO not count them out , they have the firepower to win , will have to show us the deepness of the strat book
G2 : Coming off a lot of changes , A lot of overlap on roles and agent between Ardiis and zeek , but its still 4 out of the core 5 in the best team of 2020
FGK/VITALITY : Dark horse of this tournament , Literraly rolled on anyone and everyone in qualifiers,very aggressive style with a incredible firepower of Bramz vakk and cender. This team is gonna be really hard to play against VS teams taht dont have a lot of teamplay and comms, and even with that they play so explosive if you dont come prepare you get pretty much rekt
TL :IF the teamplay got better, if the problems around the lack of strats and microcalls that where showned in First strike , and if Scream goes godmode again ,they will roll everyone, if any of the 3 i showned they still have a good chance

NIP :One of the biggest deception of 2020, But they finally added a IGL , maybe if ex6tenz can get Rhyme and Crea of the leash and make them play in team this might get very intersting ,otherwise the 3rd worse on paper
OG/monkey buisness :3 Legendary Overwatch player , 2 of them being multiple times Shootmania champs and a third being a Tf2 legend,(Akm and unkoe with Tviq) a really solid CS player (ellement) and a wild card in Onibyy. This team lacks firepower but will compesante in experience and teamplay . They have a lot of past synergies ,those guys play together for like 10 years. Still second worst on paper because they really have a lack of firepower
FUTBOLIST ; IMO not even the best team in turkey (BBL) ,last on paper , but good synergies dont know much more
(if the first three are not developped a lot its because pretty much everybody knows them and a lot have been already said)

NOW THE MATCHUPS
NIP VS FUTBOLIST : least interesting matchup for me , either NIP fluke really hard and loose or futbolist get rekt, not a lot to say or to expect ; Will still see if ex6tenz starts works and everything :good pracc for both teams ; 70/30 for NIP
G2 VS VITALITY :
Very hard match to predict,VITALITY are very hard to counter ,if g2 didnt work on comms and tactics or how well they can correct ingame or adapt they might loose,but g2 are also a machine taht cant be stopped sometimes. This is coming down to the leader and how well can they players can keep up
if this was a bet i would go for vitality
60/40 for g2
SUMN FC VS OG
A brain match, the true test of OG , if they can take one or 2 maps we can pretty much say they have a lot of potential, however i feel like SUMN is way too big of an order for g2
75/25 for Sumn
UPTADE FORGOT GUILD VS TL:
Guild are coming in hot honestlmy ,synergy with sayf is presnet already ,they have beaten tougher oppponents all 2020 long, iif scream goes godmode,or TL have finally found the micromanagement taht they lacked from ardiis leaving , they might win,but guild are just so tough to play against .
65/35 for Guild

This post took me way too long as i accidentaly f5 at some point . This will be uptaded after each map, hope you enjoyed it and sorry for the grammar and shit im bad with it
:)
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and yes i might overrate vitality a bit but they actually are good

you forgot liquid vs guild matchup mens))

and yes you're overrating Vitality for sure putting them as favorite, they have proven nothing so far against top teams, although I hope they win too. they definitely have an upset potential

deva [#3]

you forgot liquid vs guild matchup mens))

and yes you're overrating Vitality for sure putting them as favorite, they have proven nothing so far against top teams, although I hope they win too. they definitely have an upset potential

I think he said in the end that G2 are favourites, just that he would bet on Vitality because odds would be good.

kocunar [#4]

I think he said in the end that G2 are favourites, just that he would bet on Vitality because odds would be good.

Yes I know, but even then I think it's still unfounded (just my opinion of course).

I think vakk's aggro style can be easily countered by G2 with their strong individualities, and after that Vitality will become toothless. Just my pleb analysis though :>

deva [#3]

you forgot liquid vs guild matchup mens))

and yes you're overrating Vitality for sure putting them as favorite, they have proven nothing so far against top teams, although I hope they win too. they definitely have an upset potential

First of all thx for reminding me of the TL matchup, will uptade
I still consider g2 favourite in the matchup vs vitality but ovearll sumn is favourite for me
I looked at the closed qualifier matches and holy shit vitality are good, don't know against top 3 eu but against defuse it wasn't even close

I'll take G2 and probably Vitality and Liquid over Guild... Guild has always been overhyped for reasons that I don't know. Sayf and Yacine are incredible players but their most impressive feat is beating G2 while using an exploit... They have always bested NiP and I think because of the chemistry and team aspects they might be better than Vitality and Liquid but they should 100% not be over G2 imo. I honestly think G2 and SUMN are a tier above the rest of the teams and that doesn't mean I think Vitality, Guild or Liquid are bad I just think they aren't on the same level as G2 and SUMN but we will see shortly.

Fat_Lard [#7]

I'll take G2 and probably Vitality and Liquid over Guild... Guild has always been overhyped for reasons that I don't know. Sayf and Yacine are incredible players but their most impressive feat is beating G2 while using an exploit... They have always bested NiP and I think because of the chemistry and team aspects they might be better than Vitality and Liquid but they should 100% not be over G2 imo. I honestly think G2 and SUMN are a tier above the rest of the teams and that doesn't mean I think Vitality, Guild or Liquid are bad I just think they aren't on the same level as G2 and SUMN but we will see shortly.

I Guild werent disqulified from that i dont see any reasons why the top 3 team in europe they where cant beat any of those team in a offcial

On scrimm i can tell that guild are one ofd the most performing one , i asked taimou serveral time back when they beat them with mjaomode,he won purely out of preparation,if ur not prepared for the guild plays ,ur pretty much thrown out, they have very very complex execs and reatkes taht are way too good,that how they wen up until that famous glitch vs G2,it wasnt like olofboost wher they used it whole half ,the rest of the roundzs where fair and in favor of guild

G2 vs Vitality
Mixwell said they were scrims against vitality and were some of the best teams they practice against. This makes me believe that both teams know each other quite well and that it is going to be a very good game to watch. Even so, I think that G2 should win, the income of a coach who can get value from the players is what g2 needed.
NIP VS FUTBOLIST
If Ex6Tenz can guide his team well I think this would have to be an easy win for NiP
SUMN FC VS OG
It should be for SUMN, since we are talking about them, I hope that FNATIC signs them as soon as possible
GUILD VS TL
In my opinion the most even match of all. In training Liquid has been working very well. What I most want to see this game is that there is a surprise and it is that Scream is playing Jett / Operator and possibly he will also use it against Guild

xLinksz [#9]

G2 vs Vitality
Mixwell said they were scrims against vitality and were some of the best teams they practice against. This makes me believe that both teams know each other quite well and that it is going to be a very good game to watch. Even so, I think that G2 should win, the income of a coach who can get value from the players is what g2 needed.
NIP VS FUTBOLIST
If Ex6Tenz can guide his team well I think this would have to be an easy win for NiP
SUMN FC VS OG
It should be for SUMN, since we are talking about them, I hope that FNATIC signs them as soon as possible
GUILD VS TL
In my opinion the most even match of all. In training Liquid has been working very well. What I most want to see this game is that there is a surprise and it is that Scream is playing Jett / Operator and possibly he will also use it against Guild

Thx for the mixwell info! That changes the matchup a lot!

Also about TL, they added jugi on some scrims replacing soulcas, he was main awp, not scream, so i guess soulcas still awp

yes

Good post ?

feqew [#11]

yes

When does vitality officially introduce you? you have a great roster, you will surely represent vitality very well.

feqew [#11]

yes

:)

Pol44r [#2]

and yes i might overrate vitality a bit but they actually are good

NIP vs FUT :
Split: FUT have a lot in common with the NA playstyle a lot of 5-0 exec
Magoo is very impactful and crea was very unluko , could have gone both way
Ascent : Extreamly solid defense from NIP , the setup on A was flawless ,the retakes where good Counter darts when FUT pushed and crea absuing smokes like always
T side , seems like ex6tenz like splitting attacks.
Haven:VEry solid defence from NIP ,need a bit of more perfecting,like on that 1v2 postplant .NIP has defintely the better tactics and starts but FUT have the better firepower.,CT from FUT was reallyu interesting ,looked like NA with all thos duels taken
Icebox: Very strong CT from NIP again, But the lack of heavy hitter out of rhyme was present until jady sjowed up in kitchen and won the maap our of economics

Overall Ex6stenz look likkes he did a LOT of job on CT, crea needs to be moree impactful on T, Ex6tenz flashhes where very good, chiwawa wzs solid, jady just got better and better throughout and Rhymmas was stellar
Futbolist were also very good and hhad very strong aimers, they lacked some tactical depths and T sife adjustments but it wzs a nice try

Too bad that the stream is lagging, would be a great match so far.

kocunar [#16]

Too bad that the stream is lagging, would be a great match so far.

luckily for me french stream is much less laggy

LOL 00.01 DEFUSE

Pol44r [#15]

NIP vs FUT :
Split: FUT have a lot in common with the NA playstyle a lot of 5-0 exec
Magoo is very impactful and crea was very unluko , could have gone both way
Ascent : Extreamly solid defense from NIP , the setup on A was flawless ,the retakes where good Counter darts when FUT pushed and crea absuing smokes like always
T side , seems like ex6tenz like splitting attacks.
Haven:VEry solid defence from NIP ,need a bit of more perfecting,like on that 1v2 postplant .NIP has defintely the better tactics and starts but FUT have the better firepower.,CT from FUT was reallyu interesting ,looked like NA with all thos duels taken
Icebox: Very strong CT from NIP again, But the lack of heavy hitter out of rhyme was present until jady sjowed up in kitchen and won the maap our of economics

Overall Ex6stenz look likkes he did a LOT of job on CT, crea needs to be moree impactful on T, Ex6tenz flashhes where very good, chiwawa wzs solid, jady just got better and better throughout and Rhymmas was stellar
Futbolist were also very good and hhad very strong aimers, they lacked some tactical depths and T sife adjustments but it wzs a nice try

G2 VS VIT:
Vitality played scared , tehy were aggresive on eco(they where really good on ecos or force) or when in 5v5, trhe few pushes they had where instantly countered ,outside of miracle rounds and a lot of good takes on ICEBOX they felt scared and lost .Patitek was way too good on entry sage (WTF)
Edit : After talking to Bramz explained they didn't sleep because they moved in dor the bootcamp this morning very early and had few energy , also mixwell apparently stole teh starts from them XD

feqew [#11]

yes

nt man ,you played a huge game