if optic reaches finals

then win in a bo5 100%
loud will have to play 3 out of fracture/bind/split/haven
even icebox could have gone either way
so i think if optic reaches finals they win for sure

but i think there is a huge chance they throw like they usually do

i dont think they reach grand finals actually its gonna be PRX/Zeta

Grumsy [#2]

i dont think they reach grand finals actually its gonna be PRX/Zeta

zeta vs loud finals ez

OPTIC will lose against PRX
trust me

ye loud having 3 shit maps is very very bad sign for being tested in bo5

we will see what happens maybe they can patch up their issues before grands

Their Bind and Haven are not bad though. Liquid is strong on Haven and Bind is one of their best maps too (don't know why they have not been playing it)

Fracture and Split are the real problems, but they can fix it.

They will lose against prx
If not, ban split and fracture ez game

I just wanna see the Americas in the grand finals, these matches were insane, let our side of the world take the crown.

fisherman [#5]

ye loud having 3 shit maps is very very bad sign for being tested in bo5

we will see what happens maybe they can patch up their issues before grands

its not all about loud being bad in them,
optic are just really good in those maps

Bind is Loud best map, and they haven't even show it

LuffyVlr [#6]

Their Bind and Haven are not bad though. Liquid is strong on Haven and Bind is one of their best maps too (don't know why they have not been playing it)

Fracture and Split are the real problems, but they can fix it.

but bind is optics strongest
and they are really good in haven too

Optic has high win rate second time around. They usually get washed first game then win the second and are known for counter-strating. I’d say the only exception was X10 in champs. As long as they have prep time and make it to grands they will be fine imo.

andrewdamf [#7]

They will lose against prx
If not, ban split and fracture ez game

You can only ban 1 map in the finals. So Loud would have to play optic on fracture or split.

Dr_DoofenshmirtZ [#9]

its not all about loud being bad in them,
optic are just really good in those maps

LOUD is fuking insane in Bind, they are lost in Haven against Liquid, but they are very good in there

Dr_DoofenshmirtZ [#11]

but bind is optics strongest
and they are really good in haven too

I mean, I don't think Bind will be like Fracture, that's what I'm saying. LOUD would get stomped by OPTC on Fracture and Split. Haven and Bind would be close but could go either way around just like this Icebox.

IMO only Ascent is a map that LOUD would have a 80% for a win against them.

CowboySG [#13]

You can only ban 1 map in the finals. So Loud would have to play optic on fracture or split.

If loud doenst change comp= ban fracture
If they do= ban split

LuffyVlr [#15]

I mean, I don't think Bind will be like Fracture, that's what I'm saying. LOUD would get stomped by OPTC on Fracture and Split. Haven and Bind would be close but could go either way around just like this Icebox.

IMO only Ascent is a map that LOUD would have a 80% for a win against them.

they why did they ban bind?

Dr_DoofenshmirtZ [#17]

they why did they ban bind?

Cause they probably thought they had more chances on Icebox. It does not mean they are bad in it

LuffyVlr [#18]

Cause they probably thought they had more chances on Icebox. It does not mean they are bad in it

but then why are others saying bind is loud's best map?
and optic have been beating everyone in icebox as well
maybe optic beat loud in bind on scrims?

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Dr_DoofenshmirtZ [#19]

but then why are others saying bind is loud's best map?
and optic have been beating everyone in icebox as well
maybe optic beat loud in bind on scrims?

Sadly I can't answer that LOL

But they probably have some informations on that so who knows. Let's hope OPTC wins Lower Finals and we get to see that Bind