do you guys know that average salary for PRX team is about 800$ ?
while T4 eu Teams get paid more
Skyss [#3]800$ is huge in average SEA countries except Singapore
that deosnt mean they should get paid like this
think about it this way
a team in NA T3 like complexity or Ghost they pay players about 2000$ minimum for 0 viewers 0 fan 0 result
why not just sign PRX for 2000$ and get a lot more fans more represent and other stuff
MastoOG [#5]There are T2 Valorant pros getting 5k+ a month but esports isn't nearly as popular there as it is here. It's like comparing the WNBA and NBA salaries ngl
you cant compare them to NBA and WNBA because WNBA AND NBA never plat against each other
while esport they play against each other
unfortunately only in NA, Europe and some places in Asia the salaries of professional players are high. The other regions suffer from a lack of investment and even so, as we can see in the masters, they manage to be competitive. So just imagine if they had the same level of investment as the main regions.
Styling911 [#7]that deosnt mean they should get paid like this
think about it this way
a team in NA T3 like complexity or Ghost they pay players about 2000$ minimum for 0 viewers 0 fan 0 result
why not just sign PRX for 2000$ and get a lot more fans more represent and other stuff
but 800$ its not make sense for singapore team, yeah its fake information
the_alex_andre [#9]unfortunately only in NA, Europe and some places in Asia the salaries of professional players are high. The other regions suffer from a lack of investment and even so, as we can see in the masters, they manage to be competitive. So just imagine if they had the same level of investment as the main regions.
Not all SEA
look at Bleed they are SEA and they pay as much as EU/NA
Styling911 [#11]Not all SEA
look at Bleed they are SEA and they pay as much as EU/NA
"and some places in Asia"
that's include SEA
Styling911 [#11]Not all SEA
look at Bleed they are SEA and they pay as much as EU/NA
that's merely an outlier. in respective of the whole region, only some teams has "decent" pay.
Even though many NA/EMEA teams are paid several times more than many better teams in other regions, you have to look at the cost of living. In NA and Europe you can only live on 2000 USD per month if you live with your parents, if you live alone only rent is 2000 USD, unlike in many other countries in Asia and South America where a person earning 2000 USD per month is considered middle class and can live very well and with considerable luxury.
vibradorultimategalaxy [#15]Even though many NA/EMEA teams are paid several times more than many better teams in other regions, you have to look at the cost of living. In NA and Europe you can only live on 2000 USD per month if you live with your parents, if you live alone only rent is 2000 USD, unlike in many other countries in Asia and South America where a person earning 2000 USD per month is considered middle class and can live very well and with considerable luxury.
The teams collect mostly from sponsorships and product sales. In first world countries, where the cost of living is higher, so is the purchasing power and the amounts paid by sponsors. As a result, teams earn more and are able to pay higher salaries. Thus, this proxy is not so correct to make since the revenue of teams is not symmetrical between countries.
The NIP coming to Brazil is a way they found to pay less for a competitive team and that will give visibility to their sponsors in the same way.
Styling911 [#8]you cant compare them to NBA and WNBA because WNBA AND NBA never plat against each other
while esport they play against each other
I meant in terms of popularity. The reason WNBA players get paid so much less is bc the league is so much more unpopular compared to the NBA. Esports are not nearly as profitable in APAC as they are in NA/EU.
Revlo [#20]vlr is braindead, they don't take cost of living in to consideration at all.
are you dumb fuck?
I mean why wouldnt an NA team stuck in T3 just sign a team like PRX with less money and more competition and representation
Styling911 [#12]no not fake
lol i watching popcast with mindfreak guess, so he give us information about salary in paper rex ( in mei 2021 ), he say the salary so high if compared to average indonesia salary in Jakarta ( capital of indonesia ), Jakarta average salary is arround 300-350$
Styling911 [#7]that deosnt mean they should get paid like this
think about it this way
a team in NA T3 like complexity or Ghost they pay players about 2000$ minimum for 0 viewers 0 fan 0 result
why not just sign PRX for 2000$ and get a lot more fans more represent and other stuff
thats not how it works bro
Styling911 [#21]are you dumb fuck?
I mean why wouldnt an NA team stuck in T3 just sign a team like PRX with less money and more competition and representation
are you dumb fuck?
Because they are NA organizations signing NA players, also Riot has a cap on how many foreign players they can import.
Skyss [#22]lol i watching popcast with mindfreak guess, so he give us information about salary in paper rex ( in mei 2021 ), he say the salary so high if compared to average indonesia salary in Jakarta ( capital of indonesia ), Jakarta average salary is arround 300-350$
ok? 800 is very high compared to 350?
Skyss [#22]lol i watching popcast with mindfreak guess, so he give us information about salary in paper rex ( in mei 2021 ), he say the salary so high if compared to average indonesia salary in Jakarta ( capital of indonesia ), Jakarta average salary is arround 300-350$
300-350 is not average i think. its the minimum salary (its called UMR = upah minimum rakyat = minimum salary)
Revlo [#24]are you dumb fuck?
Because they are NA organizations signing NA players, also Riot has a cap on how many foreign players they can import.
are you dumb fuck?
I mean go and compete in SEA with this lineup
C9 had a korean roster at the start
its ok for NA teams to have teams outside of their region
the_alex_andre [#18]The teams collect mostly from sponsorships and product sales. In first world countries, where the cost of living is higher, so is the purchasing power and the amounts paid by sponsors. As a result, teams earn more and are able to pay higher salaries. Thus, this proxy is not so correct to make since the revenue of teams is not symmetrical between countries.
The NIP coming to Brazil is a way they found to pay less for a competitive team and that will give visibility to their sponsors in the same way.
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the_alex_andre [#18]The teams collect mostly from sponsorships and product sales. In first world countries, where the cost of living is higher, so is the purchasing power and the amounts paid by sponsors. As a result, teams earn more and are able to pay higher salaries. Thus, this proxy is not so correct to make since the revenue of teams is not symmetrical between countries.
The NIP coming to Brazil is a way they found to pay less for a competitive team and that will give visibility to their sponsors in the same way.
Exactly what I mean
why teams dont do like NIP? but in APAC
Styling911 [#27]are you dumb fuck?
I mean go and compete in SEA with this lineup
C9 had a korean roster at the start
its ok for NA teams to have teams outside of their region
are you dumb fuck?
Maybe NA orgs want NA players to represent them???
Styling911 [#25]ok? 800 is very high compared to 350?
eeyore (player from PSJ) said f0rsaken salary is 7x8 times minimum salary in Jakarta $300. so his salary probably 2000 - 2400 usd
Revlo [#30]are you dumb fuck?
Maybe NA orgs want NA players to represent them???
are you dumb fuck and also are NA orgs dumb fucks?
keep wasting money then you dumb fucks
Fr1tZ [#31]eeyore (player from PSJ) said f0rsaken salary is 7x8 times minimum salary in Jakarta $300. so his salary probably 2000 - 2400 usd
Idk but why would bleed founder lie then
Styling911 [#32]are you dumb fuck and also are NA orgs dumb fucks?
keep wasting money then you dumb fucks
are you dumb fuck?
NA sponsors pay more than SEA sponsors.
Styling911 [#32]are you dumb fuck and also are NA orgs dumb fucks?
keep wasting money then you dumb fucks
he's dumb for sure
Revlo [#35]are you dumb fuck?
NA sponsors pay more than SEA sponsors.
are you dumb fuck and also are NA orgs dumb fucks?
sponsers deosnt want teams with 500 viewers
THEY WANT TEAMS WITH 500K VIEWERS WATCHING THEM THEY WILL PAY NA ORGS MORE
thats why esport in NA is dogshit T5 region in every esport
Styling911 [#33]Idk but why would bleed founder lie then
and also eeyore said while playing with f0rsaken and he didnt said anything to eeyore so probably thats true
Styling911 [#37]are you dumb fuck and also are NA orgs dumb fucks?
sponsers deosnt want teams with 500 viewers
THEY WANT TEAMS WITH 500K VIEWERS WATCHING THEM THEY WILL PAY NA ORGS MORE
thats why esport in NA is dogshit T5 region in every esport
OpTic is still in the upper bracket you dumb fuck, and what part of NA sponsors/market didn't you get dumbfuck?
Revlo [#40]OpTic is still in the upper bracket you dumb fuck, and what part of NA sponsors/market didn't you get dumbfuck?
Carried by YAY KEKW
LOUd and sacy owns you and your fucking company
Styling911 [#42]Carried by YAY KEKW
LOUd and sacy owns you and your fucking company
random guy on vlr think he knows more than actual orgs. LMAO, shut the fuck up you dumb fuck.
Revlo [#43]random guy on vlr think he knows more than actual orgs. LMAO, shut the fuck up you dumb fuck.
Optic fan + he upvotes him self piece of shit
take this downvote and get the fuck out of my thread
Styling911 [#44]Optic fan + he upvotes him self piece of shit
take this downvote and get the fuck out of my thread
dumb fuck nobody thinks he knows business optics. lmfao It's too funny how much of a clown you are.
Styling911 [#29]Exactly what I mean
why teams dont do like NIP? but in APAC
i think its because brazil and fps have a long-date relationship plus some of these brands already parked in brazil and have gained a fanbase over here
Revlo [#45]dumb fuck nobody thinks he knows business optics. lmfao It's too funny how much of a clown you are.
I know more business than OpTic probably
thats why they got sold 3 times in 2 years KEKW
dumb fucks if they knew what they are doing they would be 10x G2 for the head start they got on esports
deosnt change the fact that you will get clowned in 4 days by sacy and shit on
Styling911 [#49]I know more business than OpTic probably
thats why they got sold 3 times in 2 years KEKW
dumb fucks if they knew what they are doing they would be 10x G2 for the head start they got on esports
deosnt change the fact that you will get clowned in 4 days by sacy and shit on
if you know so much go start your own org and go pay your players NA salaries then you dumb fuck. I can't even laugh anymore. It's just sad how much of a dumb fuck you are.
Revlo [#50]if you know so much go start your own org and go pay your players NA salaries then you dumb fuck. I can't even laugh anymore. It's just sad how much of a dumb fuck you are.
unfortunately I dont have money otherwise it'd be diffrent
Styling911 [#51]unfortunately I dont have money otherwise it'd be diffrent
you don't have money, but you think you know what's best for NA orgs to invest in? lmao dumb fuck.
Sem1- [#47]if that's true then I hope they get signed by bleed
prx is literally running the slave contracts
Well maybe they like each other as a teammate, look at forsaken and jinggg duo ing almost every day
Revlo [#52]you don't have money, but you think you know what's best for NA orgs to invest in? lmao dumb fuck.
get your dumb fuck ass out of my notification and thread you dumb fuck
Styling911 [#54]get your dumb fuck ass out of my notification and thread you dumb fuck
Ok dumb fuck, your dumb fuckery already proved me right anyway lmao.
Taramissu [#53]Well maybe they like each other as a teammate, look at forsaken and jinggg duo ing almost every day
yeah sure my point is that they should all get better contracts and from what I've heard bleed is throwing around millions