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New TSM still suck :))

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DELUSIONAL_s0m_FAN
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ya probably, but in like 2 years when the roster is completely different maybe they’re gonna be better

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Kiklop
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Id they give it some time they might be good

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KatZ
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who ?

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virtz
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Atleast, TSM gets publicity because the players are content creators. NA isn't competing anymore other than the guard and Cloud9 blue.

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tezz1
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DELUSIONAL_s0m_FAN [#2]

ya probably, but in like 2 years when the roster is completely different maybe they’re gonna be better

Of course tsm is a huge org they will at some point sign actual players

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virtz [#5]

Atleast, TSM gets publicity because the players are content creators. NA isn't competing anymore other than the guard and Cloud9 blue.

C9 didnt even make it what are you on? C9 was never good to begin with they just had the easiest group stage out of the other 2 NA teams

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Sanaki
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DELUSIONAL_s0m_FAN [#2]

ya probably, but in like 2 years when the roster is completely different maybe they’re gonna be better

just like c9

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archetype
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ItsHunter [#7]

C9 didnt even make it what are you on? C9 was never good to begin with they just had the easiest group stage out of the other 2 NA teams

false.

ignoring NA team's chances,

KRU FURIA SEN TL - only 1 team almost guaranteed to make it out: TL
ACE VK X10C ENVY - only 1 team almost guaranteed to make it out: ACE (and even then Acend bad shit form in groups)

are easier groups than

VS FNC FS C9 - 2 teams almost guaranteed to make it out: VS FNC

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deadSQUAD
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this team is cursed lmfao

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KssS
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why are they putting their arguably most talented jett player on cypher???

#12
-morte-
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KssS [#11]

why are they putting their arguably most talented jett player on cypher???

#1 strat in NA, throw

#13
Enamul_Huq1990
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KssS [#11]

why are they putting their arguably most talented jett player on cypher???

Cause he was a cypher main before

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m11lan
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archetype [#9]

false.

ignoring NA team's chances,

KRU FURIA SEN TL - only 1 team almost guaranteed to make it out: TL
ACE VK X10C ENVY - only 1 team almost guaranteed to make it out: ACE (and even then Acend bad shit form in groups)

are easier groups than

VS FNC FS C9 - 2 teams almost guaranteed to make it out: VS FNC

No hate on c9, i love their gameplay, but the fact thats c9 never qualified for VCT master, the only one time they qualified for international event was through VCT Champions NA LCQ, on that time NA tier 1 team on worse condition, and that time NA best team (SEN & NV) already qualified, remember NA LCQ final was Rise vs C9, which C9 number 8 on NA circuit point, and Rise number 10 on NA circuit point

I dont know why people supporting C9 always disrespecting other team like Optic SEN V1, and thinking C9 on god level, while C9 never qualified to VCT master and never winning a single NA VCT challenger

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m11lan
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KssS [#11]

why are they putting their arguably most talented jett player on cypher???

I dont know why TSM always do this, they need Sentinel player since back then when reltuC still TSM member, and they decide to buy a duelist main all over again, are they gonna try 4 duelist comp or what

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