will franchise good ??

Franchise work well in LoL, will it work in fairly new game like Val ?? Will it kill tier 2 pro scene ?

franchise will good

Franchise is bad for Volarunte

maybe with like a vrl system in all regions? idk how it would work tbh

depends on how it's implemented.

could be a 12 team circuit with, say, 8 slots bought and the other 4 open qualifier-based. (though, I don't think that will happen because of revenue sharing and promotion stuff being difficult)

in short term might affect competition, but in the long term is beneficial for sure

queueK [#5]

depends on how it's implemented.

could be a 12 team circuit with, say, 8 slots bought and the other 4 open qualifier-based. (though, I don't think that will happen because of revenue sharing and promotion stuff being difficult)

yeah, not fully franchised so tier 2 teams that get promoted will either get money (by selling slots) or have chances to compete in tier 1 league

i heard from a pro that frachinsing is the only way that this game can be sustainable with the many orgs there is in the scene

Dolphin [#8]

i heard from a pro that frachinsing is the only way that this game can be sustainable with the many orgs there is in the scene

idk cs has been alive for how many years now without a franchise

I don't follow LoL, but franchise works? what are the improvements of doing it that way?

valulrantefanboy [#7]

yeah, not fully franchised so tier 2 teams that get promoted will either get money (by selling slots) or have chances to compete in tier 1 league

LCK doesn’t promote teams you dumbass.

arecyc [#9]

idk cs has been alive for how many years now without a franchise

Yea and NA is on it’s last breath. The only region that is doing well is Europe. Not to mention csgo has like 30 salaried teams at most.

Now compare that to an esport like LoL where there’s 150+ salaried teams and regional leagues everywhere. What kind of stupid comparisons are you making?

Yes, it’s good.

wdym works well? lmfao
game without franchise used to be so much better

Victorie [#12]

Yea and NA is on it’s last breath. The only region that is doing well is Europe. Not to mention csgo has like 30 salaried teams at most.

Now compare that to an esport like LoL where there’s 150+ salaried teams and regional leagues everywhere. What kind of stupid comparisons are you making?

and the bad things about EU stems from the fact it's franchised

Victorie [#11]

LCK doesn’t promote teams you dumbass.

my bad srr :)), why so aggressive ??

Victorie [#12]

Yea and NA is on it’s last breath. The only region that is doing well is Europe. Not to mention csgo has like 30 salaried teams at most.

Now compare that to an esport like LoL where there’s 150+ salaried teams and regional leagues everywhere. What kind of stupid comparisons are you making?

NA sucks which is why its on its last breath

arecyc [#17]

NA sucks which is why its on its last breath

what about japan korea SEA LATAM why are they dead in cs? japan is bad at val but they are still top 2 most popular in valo 1.NA
2.jp
3.EMEA

Matrix13e [#18]

what about japan korea SEA LATAM why are they dead in cs? japan is bad at val but they are still top 2 most popular in valo 1.NA
2.jp
3.EMEA

soon japan will realise japan is trash and will stop watching,u will see

arecyc [#19]

soon japan will realise japan is trash and will stop watching,u will see

its already 1 year and still the 2nd most popular and japan in valo keeps growing well see

Correct me if I’m wrong…
Will this be like ESL Pro League, or other big events in CSGO, where most slots are filled by Permanent Partners and some slots can be qualified into by smaller teams?

arecyc [#17]

NA sucks which is why its on its last breath

NA sucks in LoL aswell but they still have big orgs like C9, TSM or 100T. Those are orgs that add value to the ecosystem and they would never be there without a franchise.

But what am i doing explaining ecosystem economics to a dumbass who thinks japan will stop watching valorant because they suck.

Victorie [#22]

NA sucks in LoL aswell but they still have big orgs like C9, TSM or 100T. Those are orgs that add value to the ecosystem and they would never be there without a franchise.

But what am i doing explaining ecosystem economics to a dumbass who thinks japan will stop watching valorant because they suck.

eg liquid and coL are in NA cs and the reasons those 3 teams u mentioned left is nothing to do with franchising tsm literally had astralis before astralis and 100t had an australian team of flukers

arecyc [#23]

eg liquid and coL are in NA cs and the reasons those 3 teams u mentioned left is nothing to do with franchising tsm literally had astralis before astralis and 100t had an australian team of flukers

Yea and that was how many years ago? Yea, 6 YEARS ago. Wtf are you telling my ancient stories from 6 years ago?

You literally had NRG, 100T and C9 leave csgo saying it doesn’t make sense to invest and you’re telling me about shit that happened 6 years ago? Sit down.

franchise isnt good, and i will not change my mind

Victorie [#24]

Yea and that was how many years ago? Yea, 6 YEARS ago. Wtf are you telling my ancient stories from 6 years ago?

You literally had NRG, 100T and C9 leave csgo saying it doesn’t make sense to invest and you’re telling me about shit that happened 6 years ago? Sit down.

💀💀💀

Victorie [#24]

Yea and that was how many years ago? Yea, 6 YEARS ago. Wtf are you telling my ancient stories from 6 years ago?

You literally had NRG, 100T and C9 leave csgo saying it doesn’t make sense to invest and you’re telling me about shit that happened 6 years ago? Sit down.

yeah and NRG 100t and c9 are all washed in val

arecyc [#27]

yeah and NRG 100t and c9 are all washed in val

what does that have to do with what he said lol.

Matrix13e [#28]

what does that have to do with what he said lol.

why does it have to do anything with what he says,the world doesn't revolve aroudn him

it will be as good as overwatch hahahaha lol was lucky for having massive community already.

No, thank's

queueK [#5]

depends on how it's implemented.

could be a 12 team circuit with, say, 8 slots bought and the other 4 open qualifier-based. (though, I don't think that will happen because of revenue sharing and promotion stuff being difficult)

something like ESL PRO LEAGUE would be nice.

arecyc [#29]

why does it have to do anything with what he says,the world doesn't revolve aroudn him

u have no logic bro.

i don't know about this. Is there will be any change if (the team won regional leagues), and they will proceed to the major tournaments where all the franchised teams play?

kinda curious about this, because I really wanna see underdogs. It really fun to watch just like KRU at champion 21 and maybe PRX at masters 1

Rav [#34]

i don't know about this. Is there will be any change if (the team won regional leagues), and they will proceed to the major tournaments where all the franchised teams play?

kinda curious about this, because I really wanna see underdogs. It really fun to watch just like KRU at champion 21 and maybe PRX at masters 1

most likely no

bow___ [#25]

franchise isnt good, and i will not change my mind

Wanna have the debate? Genuinely curious to hear why

Edit: I didn’t read this was 3 months ago loool

Mortadelo [#36]

Wanna have the debate? Genuinely curious to hear why

Edit: I didn’t read this was 3 months ago loool

lmao, im just for open systems.
and valorant have only 2 years lol
and this asian league thing... disgusting

"Franchise work well in LoL" my ass, as an esport its a mess, riot are lucky 90% of league esports fans are casuals who dont care about formats being good or even the structure of the esport as a whole