1 - 4
OpTic, Guard, G2, LOUD
5-8
Fnatic, DRX, Paperrex, NIP
9-12
KRU, Liquid, Xerxia, Zeta division
Remember this is MY OPINION
Edit : Fnatic with derke is 1-5 but it's hard to place them specifically. And 1-4 is not placed in order
Tokyo777 [#2]FNC 5-8
Kkkkkkkk
with 2 subs yes.
with derke they are top 3
with original roster they win the event
RickyIndian [#3]with 2 subs yes.
with derke they are top 3
with original roster they win the event
I thjnk derke is back.....now only 1 sub that is fea
Tokyo777 [#4]I thjnk derke is back.....now only 1 sub that is fea
ok then they are top 3
but itll be interesting to see how fea's breach will be compared to braveaf's
RickyIndian [#3]with 2 subs yes.
with derke they are top 3
with original roster they win the event
derkes cleared he gonna play. so only 1 sub and fnatics scouting team is insane so im pretty sure the sub would be good too
RickyIndian [#5]ok then they are top 3
but itll be interesting to see how fea's breach will be compared to braveaf's
Boaster supremacy
iric222 [#8]imagine loud 1-4
if they dont get top 4 then riot should not give brazil any more spots at international events
RickyIndian [#9]if they dont get top 4 then riot should not give brazil any more spots at international events
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LuffyVlr [#10]?
LOUD have been dominating their region and have arguably the 5 best players in each of their respective roles. Idk what more they need
RickyIndian [#9]if they dont get top 4 then riot should not give brazil any more spots at international events
japan still gets spot even tho they were always bad
RickyIndian [#11]LOUD have been dominating their region and have arguably the 5 best players in each of their respective roles. Idk what more they need
Experience maybe? Aspas and Less are both young, they could get some nerves. Also, not only because people are hyping up them that they will perform as they expect.
iric222 [#12]japan still gets spot even tho they were always bad
People use these spots things as if Riot wants to remove teams from competing internationally, therefore killing the regional competitions. They are not that dumb though.
LuffyVlr [#13]Experience maybe? Aspas and Less are both young, they could get some nerves. Also, not only because people are hyping up them that they will perform as they expect.
i'm just trying to say that we should have reasonably high expectations for loud
LuffyVlr [#14]People use these spots things as if Riot wants to remove teams from competing internationally, therefore killing the regional competitions. They are not that dumb though.
i said that to imply that LOUD should be getting top 4
vikward [#17]did ppl forget liquid was literally an elite team last year and was 4th in EMEA what is this LOL
do people still make takes without watching teams matches? what is this LOL
number1_ScreaM_fan [#6]derkes cleared he gonna play. so only 1 sub and fnatics scouting team is insane so im pretty sure the sub would be good too
takes time for team to get comfortable tho, they didn't do as well when brave was new, remember that turret whiff :lul
Ultimate6989 [#21]K guys
Liquid isn't that bad, their for sure better than loud and NIP lmao
LOUD overrated af
they are probably a bit better than Zeta
RickyIndian [#18]do people still make takes without watching teams matches? what is this LOL
bruh they had a bad game against g2 and now all of a sudden they trash?
vikward [#17]did ppl forget liquid was literally an elite team last year and was 4th in EMEA what is this LOL
3rd-4rth in world, 3rd in EMEA*
Ultimate6989 [#21]K guys
Liquid isn't that bad, their for sure better than loud and NIP lmao
number1_ScreaM_fan [#24]bruh they had a bad game against g2 and now all of a sudden they trash?
you're discounting how much better g2 looked in that match. and g2 beat a full strength fnatic
HSlime [#32]This my opinion and I probably value different parts of a team more then you. These are also not in order from best to worst
1-4
Optic,G2,Loud and liquid5-8
PaperRex,FNC,The Guard,DRX9-12
Zeta,Nip,Xerxia,KruKru change with PaperRex if Kenzie does better then forsaken
Liquid in 1-4 i have never heard of such a troll in my entire life
JustHunter [#33]The moment i saw g2 in 1-4 and i saw fnatic and drx in 5 and lower i immediately disregarded your opinion
G2 has a strong vet core and will most likely continue to preform
DRX has most certainly gotten worse one losing K1ng and Lakia
Liquid has shown they can man a run with this team if link is on his demon time
I would’ve put fnc 1-4 if they didn’t have a sub
All of you are wrong this is the one true ranking that is quite undeniable
1-4
FNC, DRX, The Guard (if they dont crumble under the pressure), PRX (yall actually sleeping on prx)
5-8
Optic (this is assuming that they play like they did in this challengers cause they are playing so poorly compared to what they used to be), G2, KRU, Loud
9-12
yea put the rest down here idrc
Honestly after 1-3 the rest of these teams are quite close in terms of skill, well at least most of them, id be able to move them around with each other no problem
JustHunter [#36]All of you are wrong this is the one true ranking that is quite undeniable
1-4
FNC, DRX, The Guard (if they dont crumble under the pressure), PRX (yall actually sleeping on prx)5-8
Optic (this is assuming that they play like they did in this challengers cause they are playing so poorly compared to what they used to be), G2, KRU, Loud9-12
yea put the rest down here idrcHonestly after 1-3 the rest of these teams are quite close in terms of skill, well at least most of them, id be able to move them around with each other no problem
Optic, G2 and LOUD in 5-8?
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JustHunter [#33]The moment i saw g2 in 1-4 and i saw fnatic and drx in 5 and lower i immediately disregarded your opinion
fnc 5-8 since they have a sub
JustHunter [#36]All of you are wrong this is the one true ranking that is quite undeniable
1-4
FNC, DRX, The Guard (if they dont crumble under the pressure), PRX (yall actually sleeping on prx)5-8
Optic (this is assuming that they play like they did in this challengers cause they are playing so poorly compared to what they used to be), G2, KRU, Loud9-12
yea put the rest down here idrcHonestly after 1-3 the rest of these teams are quite close in terms of skill, well at least most of them, id be able to move them around with each other no problem
Kru over Nip is questionable
Kru struggled against Leviatan
While Nip rolled them
HSlime [#35]G2 has a strong vet core and will most likely continue to preform
DRX has most certainly gotten worse one losing K1ng and LakiaLiquid has shown they can man a run with this team if link is on his demon time
I would’ve put fnc 1-4 if they didn’t have a sub
G2 hasnt performed at all. All of their wins are questionable and the best they did against FPX was 3-1 and they got destroyed on icebox and again FPX didnt even have their A-game on show on the day with a vital player missing from the team.
TL has looked and continued to be garbage the past month. They could barely beat Navi (ofc theyre a good team but considering just a few months prior TL were slated to win Champs, this was just a super poor showing byt hem) and they werent able to beat any team except Guild and G2 earlier on in the stage.
DRX didnt get worse losing lakia cause he just didnt fit the style of the team, he was kindof like an ugly duckling in that group. Losing kking tho i would say would have been a hit, had they not had such a good replacement for him in Zest which id say is an overall better and more consistent player.
Again liquid is lookin like a pile of liquid shit, super inconsistent after champs, and constantly sabotaging themselves by running the most stupid comps ever, and having Jampi on a non fragging role (though his sova is cracked af)
FNC losing braveAF mightve been a hit, but Id say its not mainly because teams with setplays are usually very adaptable since they only need to apply it to their sub, and also Brave was also only on the team for like less than a month. If it was someone like derke that couldnt play then yea i agree, but Id say other than him they can just have a decent flex player fill his role.
HSlime [#39]Kru over Nip is questionable
Kru struggled against Leviatan
While Nip rolled them
Lookin at V1 vs Optic, C9 vs Optic, and V1 vs C9, I think its quite clear that you cant translate how good a team is by doing that.
100T beat both Acend and Gambit and were actually the only ones to beat them for that period of time all the way to masters (in an important match at least). Could you say that 100T were in fact at the time the best team in the world? Not by a long shot
I also mentioned that honestly i think the competition this time around (other than Zeta) are quite neck and neck. Id probably say you could move around the teams quite a bit and it would still be quite a valid list. I just thinkk the top 3 i put up there are solidly gonna have the highest chances to win Masters
LightPhD [#42]Yes, liquid does belong there. These fanboys just don’t wanna accept it. Use your brain not your heart. Liquid hasn’t done anything to show they are a top team recently
Even the team themselves have admitted that they aren't even close to the form they were at champs.
Bronze-Smurf [#19]takes time for team to get comfortable tho, they didn't do as well when brave was new, remember that turret whiff :lul
brave played for less than a month with them, so saying that they lose a lot of firepower with a sub on the team is just a false statement. Esp cause FNC is a strat based team which allows for player flexibility as proven by FPX time and time again. They just need to be able to teach the sub all their strats and set plays and it will be like brave never left.
Turret whiff is just him, that has nothign to do with team play or indiv skill cause i mean he proved it that very round that he is insane.
I think as well the fact that they have a few matches against quite mediocre teams allows for them to build up more chemistry so thats a good thing. Once they get to the final bracket play, they 100% have a really good shot at winning the event
RickyIndian [#11]LOUD have been dominating their region and have arguably the 5 best players in each of their respective roles. Idk what more they need
Thats literally DRX but for some reason they dont get the same treatment as loud. Shame honestly that these cracked ass teams are treated like underdogs esp when teams like Liquid shit and Optic are considered to be some of the best
RickyIndian [#31]you're discounting how much better g2 looked in that match. and g2 beat a full strength fnatic
Liquid beat G2 earlier in the bracket lol
JustHunter [#46]Thats literally DRX but for some reason they dont get the same treatment as loud. Shame honestly that these cracked ass teams are treated like underdogs esp when teams like Liquid shit and Optic are considered to be some of the best
because they had high expectations and crumbled.
RickyIndian [#48]but g2 came back and shit on them...
I'm just saying that beating teams like G2, Guild and Navi, is enough for me to not put them bottom three, even if they did have one rough game against G2.
RickyIndian [#5]ok then they are top 3
but itll be interesting to see how fea's breach will be compared to braveaf's
Derke comes to play in the playoffs due to quarantine
Hiber will play instead of Derke for the groups
RickyIndian [#53]are you dumb? g2 beat liquid to qualify for iceland LOL
they already qualified before that match
JustHunter [#36]All of you are wrong this is the one true ranking that is quite undeniable
1-4
FNC, DRX, The Guard (if they dont crumble under the pressure), PRX (yall actually sleeping on prx)5-8
Optic (this is assuming that they play like they did in this challengers cause they are playing so poorly compared to what they used to be), G2, KRU, Loud9-12
yea put the rest down here idrcHonestly after 1-3 the rest of these teams are quite close in terms of skill, well at least most of them, id be able to move them around with each other no problem
Worst power rankings ive ever seen
JustHunter [#40]G2 hasnt performed at all. All of their wins are questionable and the best they did against FPX was 3-1 and they got destroyed on icebox and again FPX didnt even have their A-game on show on the day with a vital player missing from the team.
TL has looked and continued to be garbage the past month. They could barely beat Navi (ofc theyre a good team but considering just a few months prior TL were slated to win Champs, this was just a super poor showing byt hem) and they werent able to beat any team except Guild and G2 earlier on in the stage.
DRX didnt get worse losing lakia cause he just didnt fit the style of the team, he was kindof like an ugly duckling in that group. Losing kking tho i would say would have been a hit, had they not had such a good replacement for him in Zest which id say is an overall better and more consistent player.
Again liquid is lookin like a pile of liquid shit, super inconsistent after champs, and constantly sabotaging themselves by running the most stupid comps ever, and having Jampi on a non fragging role (though his sova is cracked af)
FNC losing braveAF mightve been a hit, but Id say its not mainly because teams with setplays are usually very adaptable since they only need to apply it to their sub, and also Brave was also only on the team for like less than a month. If it was someone like derke that couldnt play then yea i agree, but Id say other than him they can just have a decent flex player fill his role.
Your logic is sound but liquid has the talent to be a top 4 team aside from soulcas he’s a shitter.
kristof [#55]they already qualified before that match
liquid qualified only because FPX couldn't make it to iceland XDD
sianeinus [#58]liquid qualified only because FPX couldn't make it to iceland XDD
liquid players already knew fpx cant go