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how to fix TL in a nutshell

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WinterZ

Remove L1NK, add BONECOLD, Jamppi steps down from igl (but remains on roster as a flex player) Make BONECOLD igl, Stop weird off meta comps

Final roles are

BONECOLD: Smoker + igl
Nivera: Sentinel
Soulcas: Duelist/Flex
ScreaM: Secondary Initiator/Flex
Jamppi: Primary Initiator/Flex

leave ur thoughts in the comments. Ill try to respond to all

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number1_ScreaM_fan
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L take liquid need judge player

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Verstepping33
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idk, they play the same role and L1nk is better at it.

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WinterZ
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Verstepping33 [#3]

idk, they play the same role and L1nk is better at it.

in terms of acs BONECOLD is better than l1nk and he's a good igl (more experienced than Jamppi) and if a former Acend player comes to Liquid, their bind (worst map) might improve

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WinterZ [#4]

in terms of acs BONECOLD is better than l1nk and he's a good igl (more experienced than Jamppi) and if a former Acend player comes to Liquid, their bind (worst map) might improve

l1nk has better ACS than bonecold

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WinterZ [#4]

in terms of acs BONECOLD is better than l1nk and he's a good igl (more experienced than Jamppi) and if a former Acend player comes to Liquid, their bind (worst map) might improve

idk what youre on about but acs wise l1nk 100% better other points i agree

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number1_ScreaM_fan [#2]

L take liquid need judge player

Jamppi is good enough on the judge to replace L1NK

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WinterZ
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number1_ScreaM_fan [#6]

idk what youre on about but acs wise l1nk 100% better other points i agree

on vlr it says that L1NK has average omen acs of 136.5 and BONECOLD has omen acs of 213.3. I might be wrong on that tho

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number1_ScreaM_fan
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on a second thought adding bonecold as trial may not be such a bad idea since liquid really do need a good igl which bonecold is. Hes also decent on smokes

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WinterZ
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number1_ScreaM_fan [#9]

on a second thought adding bonecold as trial may not be such a bad idea since liquid really do need a good igl which bonecold is. Hes also decent on smokes

my thoughts exactly

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SKara
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🤓📝

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WinterZ
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SKara [#11]

🤓📝

ill take that as a compliment?

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The only thing TL need to do is stop playing weird ass comps. They got so much potential and firepower man. Also maybe someone support Jamppi in igl. He has been decent as an igl and hope he improves much more.

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number1_ScreaM_fan [#9]

on a second thought adding bonecold as trial may not be such a bad idea since liquid really do need a good igl which bonecold is. Hes also decent on smokes

Dude,teams are moving away from smoke igl,now everyone wants initiator igl look at m3c and fnatic

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Bonecold is not an IGL! It is the only reason he dropped in performance and then got benched.

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WinterZ
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hekzy [#15]

Bonecold is not an IGL! It is the only reason he dropped in performance and then got benched.

Im pretty sure he was IGL when they won champs and first strike

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WinterZ
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NotASinner69 [#13]

The only thing TL need to do is stop playing weird ass comps. They got so much potential and firepower man. Also maybe someone support Jamppi in igl. He has been decent as an igl and hope he improves much more.

thats true. Its the biggest issue they have atm

#18
Lordfrzk9
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hekzy [#15]

Bonecold is not an IGL! It is the only reason he dropped in performance and then got benched.

Go and watch acend comm videos

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WinterZ
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Lordfrzk9 [#18]

Go and watch acend comm videos

ill try to access their vods

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number1_ScreaM_fan [#2]

L take liquid need judge player

Only player who need judge is scream, dudes aim is strait dog

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Pogo [#20]

Only player who need judge is scream, dudes aim is strait dog

0/8

#22
number1_ScreaM_fan
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Pogo [#20]

Only player who need judge is scream, dudes aim is strait dog

Ironic you said he was top 3 Jett 2 posts ago

#23
MilanTheMyth
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L1NK is good wdym

#24
i_come_from_hltv
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Not a bad idea but i still think they don't need changes

#25
WinterZ
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Pogo [#20]

Only player who need judge is scream, dudes aim is strait dog

untrue

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WinterZ
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MilanTheMyth [#23]

L1NK is good wdym

hes been underperforming for a while now

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WinterZ
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i think they need some but not too much

#28
doosean
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Why would you want to replace L1nk tho, he is a menace

TL just needs to stop trolling with these comps, like double controller without viper on split is just ridicilous

#29
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damn u guys are so dumb lmao where was this energy when they were considered best in the world

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WinterZ
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doosean [#28]

Why would you want to replace L1nk tho, he is a menace

TL just needs to stop trolling with these comps, like double controller without viper on split is just ridicilous

like I said, hes been underperforming for a while and overall BONECOLD is just better. L1NK shines in clutch situations but that's abt it

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WinterZ
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Maniax19 [#29]

damn u guys are so dumb lmao where was this energy when they were considered best in the world

no offense to the TL bois but when were they ever considered best in the world?

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WinterZ [#31]

no offense to the TL bois but when were they ever considered best in the world?

Champions

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WinterZ
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Maniax19 [#32]

Champions

what? Gambit was the clear favorite to win the tourney. I'd say TL actually had a bit of a cinderella run there

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WinterZ [#33]

what? Gambit was the clear favorite to win the tourney. I'd say TL actually had a bit of a cinderella run there

cinderella run LOL

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trola
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where is this idea came from, L1NK is TL's clutcher why you remove him. if "underperforming lately" is your reason gambit should remove nAts after champion.

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jamppi isnt actually liquids igl, theyve said before him, soulcas and scream share the role sortof

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WinterZ
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zyzyck [#37]

jamppi isnt actually liquids igl, theyve said before him, soulcas and scream share the role sortof

On vlr it says Jamppi is IGL and on their yt channel he confirmed that he is IGL

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WinterZ
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trola [#36]

where is this idea came from, L1NK is TL's clutcher why you remove him. if "underperforming lately" is your reason gambit should remove nAts after champion.

I can count on one hand how many times L1NK has clutched throughout group stage and playoffs. And as it stands, L1NK is the weakest link (badum-tss) on their roster and BONECOLD would be an overall more valuable addition to the squad than L1NK atm.

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Maniax19 [#35]

cinderella run LOL

astronomical levels of copium

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WinterZ
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nutab1e [#40]

astronomical levels of copium

me?

#42
WelcomeWardy
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not bad idea but l1nk pretty good they could trial with binecold as igl but they know better and they'll probably pull through

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WinterZ
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WelcomeWardy [#42]

not bad idea but l1nk pretty good they could trial with binecold as igl but they know better and they'll probably pull through

yea thats probably the answer here

EDIT: wait nvm

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WinterZ [#38]

On vlr it says Jamppi is IGL and on their yt channel he confirmed that he is IGL

sliggy has said a few times on stream that they share igling since he thinks it is more affective

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WinterZ
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zyzyck [#44]

sliggy has said a few times on stream that they share igling since he thinks it is more affective

well if thats true then tis change would let the players stop worrying abt IGL because BONECOLD would be IGL all maps if he was added. Less stress on the players and more room to focus on what they do best

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WinterZ [#16]

Im pretty sure he was IGL when they won champs and first strike

What I meant was that he was forced to be IGL simply because nobody else on the roster could fill the gap left by koldamenta. Bonecold is not supposed to IGL, he's a support fragger.

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WinterZ
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hekzy [#46]

What I meant was that he was forced to be IGL simply because nobody else on the roster could fill the gap left by koldamenta. Bonecold is not supposed to IGL, he's a support fragger.

he seemed fine IGL'ing like 3-4 months ago, and like I said, his IGL was a notable factor in Acend winning champs

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WinterZ [#45]

well if thats true then tis change would let the players stop worrying abt IGL because BONECOLD would be IGL all maps if he was added. Less stress on the players and more room to focus on what they do best

true, i think it definitely helps to have one person making big calls

#49
s1nek
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You trolling

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WinterZ
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s1nek [#49]

You trolling

i am not

#51
bandwagondestroyer
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WinterZ [#50]

i am not

u are

#52
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bonecold tactic was “cNed go kill , zeek go kill”. that’s why he got dropped

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