Since Sen is probably going to bomb the rest of the event, we have to face the fact that roster changes have to be made. The issue is, idk were to start.
What would you suggest?
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Chovymaker [#10]kick TenZ and buy cNed
Would be an upgrade on paper, but i highly doubt that they are going to kick their franchise player.
100TBoeJiden [#4]Sell the roster to Brazil and pay for the Guard.
Guard have more money than Rob Moore
StraW [#13]They cant do a roster change lol, you can justify dropping anyone. its an internal problem, Idk if its teamwork, strats or their mental. No one knows but SEN, they 100% are trying to change so just let them be, hopefully they can bounce back soon
We have had this discussion for 3 events now and things have only gotten worse and worse.
guNKiller [#3]they wont rebuild+ they wont practice
so stop making thread of this kind bro
just let play tenz a rifling agent get this dude on kay/o or skye ffs, get shaz on op and just kick zombs astra meta is gone he is useless get a controller like gmd or zander
Na1myy [#19]We have had this discussion for 3 events now and things have only gotten worse and worse.
They were bad at M3, they got Rawkus and got better at Champs. FaZe then set a dumb buyout price on Rawkus so SEN didn't buy him out and SEN started playing even worse.
bottomfragger30 [#20]just let play tenz a rifling agent get this dude on kay/o or skye ffs, get shaz on op and just kick zombs astra meta is gone he is useless get a controller like gmd or zander
They will not get zander, V1 just got him, he made miracles for them and they'll probably reject any offer unless sen offers a lot
NightBeam [#22]Tarik Chamber
Dapr Controller
Tenz Duellist (knows to learn Raze, tho)
Shaz Sova
Sick FlexSeanGares as Coach
Bruh tarik? You're serious?
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#21]They were bad at M3, they got Rawkus and got better at Champs. FaZe then set a dumb buyout price on Rawkus so SEN didn't buy him out and SEN started playing even worse.
- name checks out
- In Masters 3 they reached playoffs while they didn´t even get out of groups in champions, how is that better lmao?
Na1myy [#25]
- name checks out
- In Masters 3 they reached playoffs while they didn´t even get out of groups in champions, how is that better lmao?
Just watch their gameplay, they were much better at champs compared to M3 but they choked when it mattered. Also lost by like 2 rounds to two semifinalists.
Giannero [#23]They will not get zander, V1 just got him, he made miracles for them and they'll probably reject any offer unless sen offers a lot
I don't mean get zander just get someone like him someone who likes playing the role and can keep up with the meta shifts and still provide enough well placed utility for your team to get on a site and still frag out when need be
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#21]They were bad at M3, they got Rawkus and got better at Champs. FaZe then set a dumb buyout price on Rawkus so SEN didn't buy him out and SEN started playing even worse.
"Got better" they arguably did better at M3, they won against a really good G2, and held their ground against the eventual finalists, at champs they lost against Liquid in arguably their worst performance (talking about liquid here) narrowly won against Furia who wasn't that good, and got out of the tournament against KRU before they reached their champs peak. If anything they were the same SEN we saw at M3, only good thing was that Rawkus actually knew what a tac pause was
Rebuild around Shahz, Dapr, and SicK. By no means do I think that Zombs and TenZ are bad players, both are individually insane, just not what this team needs. As meme as it is, bringing Sinatraa back can fix a lot of the role issues that this team experiences (Sova/raze flex), and allows Shahz to play a much more comfortable role on Jett. SEN would have no issues had Shahz been a sova player to begin, but he is definitely much more comfortable on Jett IMO. TenZ is mechanically very good, however, his limited agent pool (just Jett and Reyna) and his rather frequent inconsistency lean me away from keeping him. I think a lot of players would want to be on SEN regardless of how they perform in this event, just because of the support the org has, the insane career and PR boost being a part of this team is associated with (the brand), and the leadership and experience of Shahz, SicK, and Dapr. Any up-and-coming smokes player could join sentinels, my best choice would 100% be skuba on PKS right now, he's just way too good to pass up on, however, the PKS boys look loyal to one another so poaching him would not be easy at all.
Regardless of what I said above, this team could still work, but their gameplay looks off and they aren't playing like Masters Reykjavik, rather they look flat at times, and the type of depth I see from teams like OpTiC, C9, XSET, and The Guard.
All of this plus a coach and culture shift could vault SEN back into the limelight, but I think this team needs 4 or 5 more months to figure it out regardless of whether they change the roster or keep it, add a coach, etc.
best of luck
bottomfragger30 [#28]I don't mean get zander just get someone like him someone who likes playing the role and can keep up with the meta shifts and still provide enough well placed utility for your team to get on a site and still frag out when need be
Idk how many players as good as him are there in the market, most t1 igls are already taken and I doubt their teams would easily sell them to their rivals
sohambari [#30]Rebuild around Shahz, Dapr, and SicK. By no means do I think that Zombs and TenZ are bad players, both are individually insane, just not what this team needs. As meme as it is, bringing Sinatraa back can fix a lot of the role issues that this team experiences (Sova/raze flex), and allows Shahz to play a much more comfortable role on Jett. SEN would have no issues had Shahz been a sova player to begin, but he is definitely much more comfortable on Jett IMO. TenZ is mechanically very good, however, his limited agent pool (just Jett and Reyna) and his rather frequent inconsistency lean me away from keeping him. I think a lot of players would want to be on SEN regardless of how they perform in this event, just because of the support the org has, the insane career and PR boost being a part of this team is associated with (the brand), and the leadership and experience of Shahz, SicK, and Dapr. Any up-and-coming smokes player could join sentinels, my best choice would 100% be skuba on PKS right now, he's just way too good to pass up on, however, the PKS boys look loyal to one another so poaching him would not be easy at all.
Regardless of what I said above, this team could still work, but their gameplay looks off and they aren't playing like Masters Reykjavik, rather they look flat at times, and the type of depth I see from teams like OpTiC, C9, XSET, and The Guard.
All of this plus a coach and culture shift could vault SEN back into the limelight, but I think this team needs 4 or 5 more months to figure it out regardless of whether they change the roster or keep it, add a coach, etc.
best of luck
Well said.
One note, your comment about Sinatraa is only true if he could still perform as a top 5 NA sova/raze. I fear that he’s spent far to long on the sidelines and the competition has passed him.
tennisfan [#33]LMAO the amount of people here saying kick TenZ like that's ever gonna happen. They paid $1.25M for him he's not going anywhere unless someone offers a similar price for him.
They could move him to content creation if they feel like they can find a player that gives them a better chance to win.
It wouldn’t waste their investment.
Play t2 events and flex roles try putting tenz on a rifle agent like maybe neon or something weird kayo maybe and when he is rifling shaz on op keep dapr on his controller sentinel and zombs needs to find a way to provide the value they need from him or hes gonna be dropped and sick is fine cause tbh hes the only player who can play the role they need
LouBag [#34]They could move him to content creation if they feel like they can find a player that gives them a better chance to win.
It wouldn’t waste their investment.
They didn't pay $1.25M for a content creator. Besides, who would they replace with him?
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#5]-zombs +radiant smoker
+sgares
+playing t2 events where they try different roles
zombs is still immortal?? 💀💀
feelsbadboaster [#39]+coach
+mental coach
-dapr
fix roles
fix prac mental
put someone else on igl
incorporate strats (comes with prac+good coach)
mental coach are very very important which many team fail to put focus on imo too but - dapr seems kinda weird
nematoma [#42]mental coach are very very important which many team fail to put focus on imo too but - dapr seems kinda weird
dapr high ceiling very low floor, pick up someone who is better consistently
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