I think cs is much much easier than valorant. In valorant you gotta deal with a million more things than what you have to deal with in cs.
I have changed my mind Csgo is not easy either
Arisqq [#4]Csgo vs valorant https://imgur.com/a/XdSuHkP
Just comparing 2 big FPS games. There is no need to fight over it unless you're a no life cunt. I think one game is harder than the other, no?
zavicio [#5]Just comparing 2 big FPS games. There is no need to fight over it unless you're a no life cunt. I think one game is harder than the other, no?
Chovymaker [#15]LoL > valulrant and dead game
Lol is the most boring esports i have watched. How do people enjoy that shit? 💀
Never_Wrong [#16]In valorant you gotta deal with a million more things than what you have to deal with in cs.
That's what actually makes valorant easier and cs:go harder in that regard.
You don't understand complexity. This is a very common misunderstanding of such simple thing
Enlighten me then. Even though I'm pretty sure you're wrong
zavicio [#17]Lol is the most boring esports i have watched. How do people enjoy that shit? 💀
HE PRESSED W + F
THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING SHIT I HAVE EVER SEEN AND THIS PLAYER IS SO CUTE OH MY GOSHHHH
Never_Wrong [#16]In valorant you gotta deal with a million more things than what you have to deal with in cs.
That's what actually makes valorant easier and cs:go harder in that regard.
You don't understand complexity. This is a very common misunderstanding of such simple thing
Thank you, finally somebody who gets it.
Never_Wrong [#20]HE PRESSED W + F
THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING SHIT I HAVE EVER SEEN AND THIS PLAYER IS SO CUTE OH MY GOSHHHH
Exactly 💀
zavicio [#14]Rocket league is a fps?
yes just change the camera settings a bit and you have a first person (ball) shooter
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#24]yes just change the camera settings a bit and you have a first person (ball) shooter
Never thought about it in that way
AVE_TRUE_TO_CAESAR [#22]Dota >>>> both, better prize pool also
Bigger prize pool= better game? Such a hoe
zavicio [#19]Enlighten me then. Even though I'm pretty sure you're wrong
Bro your post is basically this noob bait but worse
https://twitter.com/infamousbtw/status/1489406870905409542
Anyways just go through many of the replies if you're genuinely interested to know, e.g https://twitter.com/sapphiReGG/status/1489407559383633922
Never_Wrong [#28]Bro your post is basically this noob bait but worse
https://twitter.com/infamousbtw/status/1489406870905409542
Anyways just go through many of the replies if you're genuinely interested to know, e.g https://twitter.com/sapphiReGG/status/1489407559383633922
Not a bait at all. Imma go through the replies and see what ur talking about
zavicio [#29]Not a bait at all. Imma go through the replies and see what ur talking about
Fair enough
Many replies are just disagreeing without adding anything new into it but I once stumbled upon a thread explaining the differences in both games, the skill it requires when using utilities and te fact that its simplicity what gives complexity.
The more randomness a game has, the lower the ceiling
Can't find it now tho
E: nvm
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#24]yes just change the camera settings a bit and you have a first person (ball) shooter
What do you mean, you can kill people in that game... You don't need the ball xD
chimpy [#31]Yeah ur right. Cs is a pretty simple game with no chances for ingenuity or a differ in play. As boring as it is easy. No depth.
there literally is,also cs aiming is harder,even pokimane can be ok at valo that's already enough proof
Never_Wrong [#30]Fair enough
Many replies are just disagreeing without adding anything new into it but I once stumbled upon a thread explaining the differences in both games, the skill it requires when using utilities and te fact that its simplicity what gives complexity.
The more randomness a game has, the lower the ceiling
Can't find it now tho
E: nvm
Read the replies and yea fair enough. Both parties got good points. So I'm not sure about this topic anymore.
zavicio [#34]Read the replies and yea fair enough. Both parties got good points. So I'm not sure about this topic anymore.
All good
utility aside, cs is miles harder
but even with utility in the discussion, when you think about the utility, utility in valorant is miles easier to use consistently. it's also way more powerful
while it may be hard to deal with the utility, you have the same ability to use it on your enemies and you know what's gonna happen
you know reyna is going to bang, you know jett is gonna dash, etc
valorant is predictable, utility is easier to use, and the gunplay is a dumbed down version of cs' gunplay
chimpy [#31]Yeah ur right. Cs is a pretty simple game with no chances for ingenuity or a differ in play. As boring as it is easy. No depth.
you haven't seen a csgo match in your life xD
tetris69 [#36]utility aside, cs is miles harder
but even with utility in the discussion, when you think about the utility, utility in valorant is miles easier to use consistently. it's also way more powerful
while it may be hard to deal with the utility, you have the same ability to use it on your enemies and you know what's gonna happenyou know reyna is going to bang, you know jett is gonna dash, etc
valorant is predictable, utility is easier to use, and the gunplay is a dumbed down version of cs' gunplay
Good points. To think of it the gunplay of this game is like 10 times worse than cs
Easy_for_MWZERA [#39]CS is harder for beginners, Val is harder at the pro level, too many variables to take into account.
valo is def not harder at pro level at least for now
No. CS is harder imo because AIM gap is REALLY BIG + is harder to be good because the META is CS is almost same every year, so to be a Pro Player you need to master every single fundament of this game really is very hard. Valorant meta changes every month so It's more easy to be good at new meta + train and Innovate.
CS: Harder + AIM Gap because people mastered everything already
Valorant: Easy to be good but harder to master + creativity that makes difference in game style.
CS have a big skill gap right now while valorant doesn't.
In CS a pub level 20 will not click against a Pro Player but in Valorant pubs can really destroy any pro player.
Easy_for_MWZERA [#39]CS is harder for beginners, Val is harder at the pro level, too many variables to take into account.
This
Arisqq [#4]Csgo vs valorant https://imgur.com/a/XdSuHkP
Says the dude who only makes CS vs VAL viewership threads
FlickMaster [#42]No. CS is harder imo because AIM gap is REALLY BIG + is harder to be good because the META is CS is almost same every year, so to be a Pro Player you need to master every single fundament of this game really is very hard. Valorant meta changes every month so It's more easy to be good at new meta + train and Innovate.
CS: Harder + AIM Gap because people mastered everything already
Valorant: Easy to be good but harder to master + creativity that makes difference in game style.CS have a big skill gap right now while valorant doesn't.
In CS a pub level 20 will not click against a Pro Player but in Valorant pubs can really destroy any pro player.
So because of the often meta changes in valorant, there is not gonna be a definite top team for a long time like astrallis was in cs. Thats kinda stupid and sad. I was hoping for sen to keep dominating and win champs this year but I think upsets are bound to happen. Same reason they lost to kru in champs even though they are better players
zavicio [#38]Good points. To think of it the gunplay of this game is like 10 times worse than cs
not worse but just alot easier to pick up and become good at
asdfgh [#40]valo is def not harder at pro level at least for now
Being harder and having better players are two different things. In CS there are no variables every agent has the same kit, you don't have to expect different things from different players. "The jett might be here, let's do this"; "The Sage could wall here", "there could be a cypher trap". In cs you only have to speculate the amount of people and the weapon they have.
jblancard [#6]both games are bad and minecraft is better
Minecraft was good until they went past 1.8.
1.7 and every update prior >
chimpy [#31]Yeah ur right. Cs is a pretty simple game with no chances for ingenuity or a differ in play. As boring as it is easy. No depth.
Valorant is just a dumbed down version of CS. Judging by your comment I can tell you never played or watched it.
Easy_for_MWZERA [#39]CS is harder for beginners, Val is harder at the pro level, too many variables to take into account.
Valorant harder at the pro level? If that were true then the current Valorant pros would be playing cs still since 95% of the pros came from t2/t3/t4 CS lol.
CSGO feels way harder just because of how many lineups you need for smokes, molotovs and flashes. Like pro players can smoke almost anything from multiple positions. You can easily learn Sova lineups, but learning smokes is pain in the ass due to there being so many jump, run, sneak, crouch jump throws and overall CSGO skyboxes and all suck ass at times. Crosshair being 1 pixel right or left can completely change where your smoke lands lol.
Easy_for_MWZERA [#48]Being harder and having better players are two different things. In CS there are no variables every agent has the same kit, you don't have to expect different things from different players. "The jett might be here, let's do this"; "The Sage could wall here", "there could be a cypher trap". In cs you only have to speculate the amount of people and the weapon they have.
literally valorant pros agree that cs was harder
asdfgh [#56]literally valorant pros agree that cs was harder
There isn't a single pro who says that. Steel says the opposite btw.
Larry [#52]Valorant harder at the pro level? If that were true then the current Valorant pros would be playing cs still since 95% of the pros came from t2/t3/t4 CS lol.
this does'nt make any sense. I've never said the Val pros were better gamers, I said the game was harder to master.
cs is harder rn imo. but thats because as a franchise its been played for 20+ years. and a lot of the maps have been played for so long as well. eventually valorant will be as difficult as cs in the future, adding more and more agents and adding agent bans will give a new layer of complexity to the game.
as it stands right now, cs is more about perfection, valorant is more about adaptability.
Easy_for_MWZERA [#58]this does'nt make any sense. I've never said the Val pros were better gamers, I said the game was harder to master.
You said the game is harder at the pro level which is no where close to being true. Cs is at another tier of competition compared to Valorant.
Easy_for_MWZERA [#57]There isn't a single pro who says that. Steel says the opposite btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRIWgjWt5Bw&ab_channel=WorldwideValorant
Easy_for_MWZERA [#48]Being harder and having better players are two different things. In CS there are no variables every agent has the same kit, you don't have to expect different things from different players. "The jett might be here, let's do this"; "The Sage could wall here", "there could be a cypher trap". In cs you only have to speculate the amount of people and the weapon they have.
no way lol
zavicio [#46]So because of the often meta changes in valorant, there is not gonna be a definite top team for a long time like astrallis was in cs. Thats kinda stupid and sad. I was hoping for sen to keep dominating and win champs this year but I think upsets are bound to happen. Same reason they lost to kru in champs even though they are better players
if a team with a playstyle like sentinels dominated valorant like astralis in cs it would be a bad image for valorant honestly
Larry [#60]You said the game is harder at the pro level which is no where close to being true. Cs is at another tier of competition compared to Valorant.
He's not saying Valorant's competition at pro level is harder
He's saying that the game itself is
xaboff [#64]He's not saying Valorant's competition at pro level is harder
He's saying that the game itself is
Yeah but its still not harder though. but its just my opinion.