What do you guys think the punishment should be?
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Let's discuss G2s punishment
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ValdemieGC [#2]Koldamenta's rant about the whole thing
https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482096645873537029
https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482122422165856263
"nice frauds"
gareth [#4]G2 can't compete in Challengers 2, missing out on Masters 1
Pipson is suspended for a year
Depending on Nukkye's involvement, he should also be suspended for a year
nukkyes involvement? r u crayz. the whole team was involved; nukkye just posted it.
ValdemieGC [#5]https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482122422165856263
"nice frauds"
https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482130879002693641
"mf... you don't work with you coach as IGL?? you are not up to date with your METHODOLOGY"
ValdemieGC [#7]https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482130879002693641
"mf... you don't work with you coach as IGL?? you are not up to date with your METHODOLOGY"
https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482289456946241537
"someone has been teaching russian language classes since I've left and his accent has changed or this smells like METHOD"
WONDERWEISS [#10]Ban them for at least 3 Years from competing in Valorants VCT. This is a serious crime.
0/8
ValdemieGC [#9]https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482289456946241537
"someone has been teaching russian language classes since I've left and his accent has changed or this smells like METHOD"
https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482122339819130890
Onur: "This is an scandal"
Kolda: "Shoulde've been but the clips where he is heard are deleted"
ValdemieGC [#12]https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482122339819130890
Onur: "This is an scandal"
Kolda: "Shoulde've been but the clips where he is heard are deleted"
https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482100753707814920
"Who needs an IGL if you can have that super good method"
ValdemieGC [#13]https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482100753707814920
"Who needs an IGL if you can have that super good method"
https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482003721991200773
hmmm
Delusional_Mitch_Fan [#3]I think they should get fined 25k. Carlos already rich+rito need some money
Carlos should have been the first one to take part after all this happened. Mr. Methods should have been immediately kicked
Delusional_Mitch_Fan [#6]nukkyes involvement? r u crayz. the whole team was involved; nukkye just posted it.
Unironically, some say that pipsoN was in nukkyes appartment lmao
WONDERWEISS [#10]Ban them for at least 3 Years from competing in Valorants VCT. This is a serious crime.
1st of all, suspend pipsoN for competing in VCL. Then suspend G2 for the next online or LAN events.
ValdemieGC [#14]https://twitter.com/koldamenta/status/1482003721991200773
hmmm
thansk for the translations
PrTsty [#20]thansk for the translations
you're welcome mate
I think all this shit is gold and G2 should def. be punished
queueK [#19]kicked from challengers 1 league, missing out on masters 1.
kicked from invite into north EU vrl, but allowed to play if they get in through open quals. (so they can have a chance to get into masters 2)
-50 circuit points
Bro, they are not in challengers 1 league, they don’t have an invite to the Nordic VRL, and the season just started they don’t have circuit points. Wtf
queueK [#19]kicked from challengers 1 league, missing out on masters 1.
kicked from invite into north EU vrl, but allowed to play if they get in through open quals. (so they can have a chance to get into masters 2)
-50 circuit points
there are no invites for northern vrl
Glycoroldas [#22]Riot are probably hoping that G2 do not qualify into the VCT, so that they could apply a relative nothingburger penalty. Whereas if G2 somehow miraculously do manage to get through, well that then just complicates things for mr. rito.
I've been informed that riot is investigating all of this. So let's be patient. G2s reputation if they knew all this and didn't move a finger tho...
ValdemieGC [#25]I've been informed that riot is investigating all of this. So let's be patient. G2s reputation if they knew all this and didn't move a finger tho...
Yeah, 5 days(realistically speaking 2 working days) is definitely not enough to complete the investigation and figure out an appropriate punishment.
DDenied [#24]there are no invites for northern vrl
oh my bad. I saw a twitter interaction and assumed they were.
Mortadelo [#23]Bro, they are not in challengers 1 league, they don’t have an invite to the Nordic VRL, and the season just started they don’t have circuit points. Wtf
banned from challengers 1 = ban from open 2. my b about the vrl invite. They should have negative circuit points.
Never_Wrong [#32]This shit again
Hey vlr randoms. Let's all act like professionals pretending we know shit all once again!
Why aren't Mixwell fans calling him out as well btw
Let's not raise a concern about koldamenta's tweets tho, @never_wrong
ValdemieGC [#33]Let's not raise a concern about koldamenta's tweets tho, @never_wrong
Why should I, I'm not a drama whore
That dude's passive-aggressiveness is my only concern here. NBS IGLd for him in Acend :p
ValdemieGC [#31]quite SOFT punishment my brazilian friend
cmon now...
true, and we almost won even with the punishment
Never_Wrong [#34]Why should I, I'm not a drama whore
That dude's passive-aggressiveness is my only concern here. NBS IGLd for him in Acend :p
NBS IGL for him and no rule was there to guarantee it shouldn't be done ;)
But hey, apparently now there is!
If only at that moment by an oversight of Pipson he spoke in the middle of the game, then only a personal fine to Pipson and game on, however if investigations confirm that Pipson and Nukkye were sharing information during the games, then the punishment should be expulsion from G2 in the 2 open qualifier of Masters 1 and the 1 open qualifier of Masters 2, plus a 1 year ban from competitive for Nukkye and Pipson.
Izanagi [#37]can someone give me the context?
G2 "suspend" bootcamp after unknown reasons.
Later, pipsoN seems to appear on nukkye's live match vods after bootcamp "was suspended". Koldamenta appears and raise a concern about pipsoN "methods".
Nukkye deletes vod and then reuploads again without pipsoNs voice.
hmm momento
Never_Wrong [#34]Why should I, I'm not a drama whore
That dude's passive-aggressiveness is my only concern here. NBS IGLd for him in Acend :p
Tanizhq's tweet explain this issue very well
https://twitter.com/Tanizhq/status/1482321787274907653
"Even IF Nbs was full IGLing before, it doesn't matter, because it was allowed then, Riots fault.
Now its clearly cheating, G2s fault, no one else to blame."
G2 is being punished, my friend, sorry for your loss
ValdemieGC [#40]G2 "suspend" bootcamp after unknown reasons.
Later, pipsoN seems to appear on nukkye's live match vods after bootcamp "was suspended". Koldamenta appears and raise a concern about pipsoN "methods".
Nukkye deletes vod and then reuploads again without pipsoNs voice.hmm momento
Hmmm speculating and jumping to conclusions when nothing has been said yet hmmm...
Waiting for you guys to call out Mixwell as well. Let's see
Never_Wrong [#42]Hmmm speculating and jumping to conclusions when nothing has been said yet hmmm...
Waiting for you guys to call out Mixwell as well. Let's see
Jumping to conclusions? I think the evidence is quite solid and obvious man, you've gotta be too delusional to deny it.
Waiting for you guys to call out Mixwell as well
As we all can see, you are the one jumping to conclusions, assuming I didn't condemn mixwell's implication in all this bullshit. Let's see
ValdemieGC [#43]Jumping to conclusions? I think the evidence is quite solid and obvious man, you've gotta be too delusional to deny it.
Waiting for you guys to call out Mixwell as well
As we all can see, you are the one jumping to conclusions, assuming I didn't condemn mixwell's implication in all this bullshit. Let's see
Blatantly misusing the word "evidence" in such a topic. Might as well search up the definition of the word
As we all can see, you are the one jumping to conclusions, assuming I didn't condemn mixwell's implication in all this bullshit. Let's see
Didn't read it anywhere but I'll take your word on that since you seem to be including absolutely everyone holding them responsible with no basis whatsoever. Needless to say that I find that stupid, accusing Mixwell (as of now) included
ValdemieGC [#25]I've been informed that riot is investigating all of this. So let's be patient. G2s reputation if they knew all this and didn't move a finger tho...
Yes. Mixwell should be banned for rest of his life for letting this happen as the captain so we will not see his shitty Jett play ever again. This is the only thing I'm waiting from this scene.
VirajKnight [#48]Yes. Mixwell should be banned for rest of his life for letting this happen as the captain so we will not see his shitty Jett play ever again. This is the only thing I'm waiting from this scene.
0/8 bait
Never_Wrong [#46]Blatantly misusing the word "evidence" in such a topic. Might as well search up the definition of the word
As we all can see, you are the one jumping to conclusions, assuming I didn't condemn mixwell's implication in all this bullshit. Let's see
Didn't read it anywhere but I'll take your word on that since you seem to be including absolutely everyone holding them responsible with no basis whatsoever. Needless to say that I find that stupid, accusing Mixwell (as of now) included
Didn't read it anywhere but I'll take your word on that since you seem to be including absolutely everyone holding them responsible with no basis whatsoever. Needless to say that I find that stupid, accusing Mixwell (as of now) included
What is really needless to say is you accusing me of being a mixwell stand with no evidence for the sake of arguing mate.
Keep coping and denying the obvious
ValdemieGC [#49]0/8 bait
Why u don't like Mixwell getting punished for this? I think he should get the double punishment as the captain. Also Giants should also get the same punishment. That includes Fitinho as the captain.
VirajKnight [#52]Why u don't like Mixwell getting punished for this? I think he should get the double punishment as the captain. Also Giants should also get the same punishment. That includes Fitinho as the captain.
My man apparently tunnel-visioned to my flag LMAO
0/8 bait, unlucko, mald harder
What the fuck does Giants even have to do with this? holy kek
VirajKnight [#52]Why u don't like Mixwell getting punished for this? I think he should get the double punishment as the captain. Also Giants should also get the same punishment. That includes Fitinho as the captain.
Well put. Isn't that their same logic after all?
Never_Wrong [#54]Well put. Isn't that their same logic after all?
I've never said mixwell shouldn't be punished tho?
ValdemieGC [#41]Tanizhq's tweet explain this issue very well
https://twitter.com/Tanizhq/status/1482321787274907653
"Even IF Nbs was full IGLing before, it doesn't matter, because it was allowed then, Riots fault.
Now its clearly cheating, G2s fault, no one else to blame."G2 is being punished, my friend, sorry for your loss
Completely missing the point.
Love to picture you celebrating any ounce of G2's failure... Whereas I'll be doing the same if it turns out Mixwell was involved lmfao
Went from "not jumping to conclusions" to "G2 is being punished" real quick tho :/
ValdemieGC [#31]quite SOFT punishment my brazilian friend
cmon now...
lmao thats the joke, thats Rito for you
Never_Wrong [#56]Completely missing the point.
Love to picture you celebrating any ounce of G2's failure... Whereas I'll be doing the same if it turns out Mixwell was involved lmfao
Went from "not jumping to conclusions" to "G2 is being punished" real quick tho :/
Why would I even care if you celebrate or not mixwells being punished? Good for you and the integrity of the game LMAO
I'm not jumping to conclusions to involve noone but pipsoN and G2, who where clearly in fault
ValdemieGC [#58]Why would I even care if you celebrate or not mixwells being punished? Good for you and the integrity of the game LMAO
I'm not jumping to conclusions to involve noone but pipsoN and G2, who where clearly in fault
"pipsoN and G2"
Oh yes, the world renowned esports player, G2.
The hypocrisy you show lmfao
Never_Wrong [#59]"pipsoN and G2"
Oh yes, the world renowned esports player, G2.
The hypocrisy you show lmfao
G2 is not a player, but an org
And if pipsoN is involved, they are involved
Take your pill @never_wrong, it's getting late
ItsMeDio [#61]bump
? its been like 5 days already, there is no way Riot didn't investigate 30s of voice coms, especially when G2 is playing for VCT qualification, are people really so salty about mixwell and kolda getting benched?.
justadude [#62]? its been like 5 days already, there is no way Riot didn't investigate 30s of voice coms, especially when G2 is playing for VCT qualification, are people really so salty about mixwell and kolda getting benched?.
Nukkye said on stream that G2 will release the voice comm to the Youtube so people can hear what happened on that day. Lets see.
VirajKnight [#63]Nukkye said on stream that G2 will release the voice comm to the Youtube so people can hear what happened on that day. Lets see.
Sad how they were bullied to do so as it would make it easy to counter them.
But at least it will shut haters down.
justadude [#64]Sad how they were bullied to do so as it would make it easy to counter them.
But at least it will shut haters down.
I mean as if hearing you coach during comms midgame against team Vitality isn't enough to raise a concern about G2s methods? Not hating just to hate lol, I don't win anything doing that
It's just suspicious as hell reading all these koldamenta's tweets about pipsoN. Something is fishy right here.
ValdemieGC [#66]I mean as if hearing you coach during comms midgame against team Vitality isn't enough to raise a concern about G2s methods? Not hating just to hate lol, I don't win anything doing that
It's just suspicious as hell reading all these koldamenta's tweets about pipsoN. Something is fishy right here.
You said yourself that it did raise concern and Riot will investigate, are they that slow or did they already investigate and didn't found anything that would be worth a penalty?
If Kolda "cheated" with pipson or whatever, doesn't mean G2 does.
justadude [#68]You said yourself that it did raise concern and Riot will investigate, are they that slow or did they already investigate and didn't found anything that would be worth a penalty?
If Kolda "cheated" with pipson or whatever, doesn't mean G2 does.
My guess rn is that riot is not punishing it at all. But I know nothing really. If they announce it as punishable in their rulebook, and then they don't punish it, that just put riot at a very bad place.
If Kolda "cheated" with pipson or whatever, doesn't mean G2 does.
This is completely true, I have no clue if this practice was used when Kolda was there or not, so IDK about this.
But still, pipsoN was in G2 comms and let's remember that the rulebook doesn't allow it at all
justadude [#68]You said yourself that it did raise concern and Riot will investigate, are they that slow or did they already investigate and didn't found anything that would be worth a penalty?
If Kolda "cheated" with pipson or whatever, doesn't mean G2 does.
Also, I've looked for the VCT 2022 rulebook, and this is what you can read on it, word by word.
4.8. Coaches
4.8.1. Teams may have one coach. If a Team has a coach, then that coach may be
present for every Match in which the Team participates. For live, in-person
tournaments held as part of the VCT (“LAN Events”), at least one of a Team’s
designated coaches may be on site throughout each such Match. Coaches may be
connected to the voice communication system in the lobby and will only be allowed
to talk to players and others during the Agent and Map selection process for each
Match, timeouts, half-times and in between Maps (if applicable). Coaches are only
permitted to be in the Match Area during Agent and Map selection and in between
Maps.
Applying VCT 2022 rulebook, and after evidence of nukkye's deleted clips where pipsoN is heard midround: G2 should be rightfully punished
ValdemieGC [#69]My guess rn is that riot is not punishing it at all. But I know nothing really. If they announce it as punishable in their rulebook, and then they don't punish it, that just put riot at a very bad place.
If Kolda "cheated" with pipson or whatever, doesn't mean G2 does.
This is completely true, I have no clue if this practice was used when Kolda was there or not, so IDK about this.
But still, pipsoN was in G2 comms and let's remember that the rulebook doesn't allow it at all
I can guarantee they can also hear coaches screaming after clutch from every team that's in a bootcamp, would not surprise me if more coaches unmute themselves to congratulate players and Riot admins don't care or maybe they got a warning or something for that. Doubt there would be any major consequences for "LETS GOOOO NUKKY".
justadude [#71]I can guarantee they can also hear coaches screaming after clutch from every team that's in a bootcamp, would not surprise me if more coaches unmute themselves to congratulate players and Riot admins don't care or maybe they got a warning or something for that. Doubt there would be any major consequences for "LETS GOOOO NUKKY".
There is an issue with your reasoning, and that is that g2 where not bootcamping. If you knew the rulebook why the f would you still being heard during comms midgame?
After all, LAN events are WAY more and easily more "patrolled". Not the case with online events tho, that's why pipsoN shouldn't have been in comms with them, IMO
I mean, there is a reason why nukkye deleted the clips, and that's because he knew he fucked up uploading it so everyone could heard pipsoN in it
ValdemieGC [#70]Also, I've looked for the VCT 2022 rulebook, and this is what you can read on it, word by word.
4.8. Coaches
4.8.1. Teams may have one coach. If a Team has a coach, then that coach may be
present for every Match in which the Team participates. For live, in-person
tournaments held as part of the VCT (“LAN Events”), at least one of a Team’s
designated coaches may be on site throughout each such Match. Coaches may be
connected to the voice communication system in the lobby and will only be allowed
to talk to players and others during the Agent and Map selection process for each
Match, timeouts, half-times and in between Maps (if applicable). Coaches are only
permitted to be in the Match Area during Agent and Map selection and in between
Maps.Applying VCT 2022 rulebook, and after evidence of nukkye's deleted clips where pipsoN is heard midround: G2 should be rightfully punished
Applying VCT 2022 rulebook, and after evidence of nukkye's deleted clips where pipsoN is heard midround: G2 should be rightfully punished
Maybe they did get a warning or something during game with punishment after repeated offence. Fuck do we know.
We are only spreading conspiracy theories.
ValdemieGC [#72]There is an issue with your reasoning, and that is that g2 where not bootcamping. If you knew the rulebook why the f would you still being heard during comms midgame?
After all, LAN events are WAY more and easily more "patrolled". Not the case with online events tho, that's why pipsoN shouldn't have been in comms with them, IMO
I mean, there is a reason why nukkye deleted the clips, and that's because he knew he fucked up uploading it so everyone could heard pipsoN in it
Every coach is in coms they are just not allowed to talk.
Maybe he really did just want to upload that clip to main twitter feed not as a comment to his old tweet.
justadude [#73]Applying VCT 2022 rulebook, and after evidence of nukkye's deleted clips where pipsoN is heard midround: G2 should be rightfully punished
Maybe they did get a warning or something during game with punishment after repeated offence. Fuck do we know.
We are only spreading conspiracy theories.
Maybe, maybe. I just want and expect more transparency from RIOT with all this shit man. If they "warned" them, then I think it is fair to make it public.
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