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FPX main problem so far

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fadezis

opinion from the outside by big fan
A lot of people there thought that problem was "fpx need to jett player".People offered to fix FPX by putting Shao on Jett. Shao can be impactful on any role, but he cant be same type of Jett like cNed. Shao not a gamemaker, he is S tier support, trader, clutcher. Anyone but not gamemaker.
FPX never had player on gamemaker role as top teams has. as we saw ardiis also not a gamemaker, just usual jett player. Every team that won any event(except masters 3 cause d3ffo not a gamemaker, so gambit probably will try swap roles and give jett role to Chronicle) had some superstar duelist player who can open site and find 3 kills.Or even 5. TenZ, cNed, Scream, leaf, keznit, heat, etc. Player that can adapt in a lot sutiations and win something unwinnable.
Fpx instead of that trying to achieve permanence. Thats why they tryed to play without duelist (so if their star player has bad day he can be still impactfull for team because of abilities) and thats also why they tryed to play without awp ( costs a lot and if u cant find succes with awp your economics ruined, u cant try to play retake and need to save this gun). They dont taking that risks. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
FIX: find a gamemaker awp+rifle player, just give him to play, he''ll create space for you and find a lot of entry frags. FPX Tactics + Gamemaker player = Winning all INT Lans. My FPX copium endless.
thoughts?

UPD: its not about some player good/bad. Every player is good, I'm not trying to offend or underestimate anyone's merits.

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kocunar
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Chronicle on Jett comment made me stop reading

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ValdemieGC
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IMO Shao should be an initiator/sova/second duelist/flex player indeed. Controller is also an option but I think his talent would be wasted in this position.

FPX needs to find a cracked Jett player. Someone like Keloqz, for example :eyes:

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ValdemieGC
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kocunar [#2]

Chronicle on Jett comment made me stop reading

Yeah, D3ffo is an impressive operator player, he should stick to Jett. Chronicle is perfect as sova/flex just like how it is now.

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fadezis
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kocunar [#2]

Chronicle on Jett comment made me stop reading

u'll see it in emea playoff
EDIT: k guys, i feel that you as new gambit watchers dont understand something.
Mb some of you remember that after M3 they talked a lot about their goal to stay unreadable. They always tryed to do it.
About swaps from duelists role to other:
Chronicle's already played reyna on Icebox for Gambit in first half of 2021 but they changed it for second half of year.
Sheydos in 2020 was also only duelist, but now that man impressive flex-support(breach skye sage) player
Redgar was only smokes for first half but he also can play supports and sova
d3ffo already played skye and astra on bind for gambit (https://www.vlr.gg/22316/moscow-five-jr-vs-gambit-esports-moscow-cybersport-series-week-6-qf ; even versus team singularity https://www.vlr.gg/22321/team-singularity-vs-gambit-esports-moscow-cybersport-series-week-6-gf)
Only thing that not changing that nAts always playing on anchor role
They always testing and tryin new stuff, so if u dont understand that it means u dont really following for Gambit

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deadSQUAD
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if they need a jett just sign purp0, he's cracked, he's russian, he's free. just what they needed based on ur copium. personally as navi fans i want him to replace ssk but i dont see navi would kicked him so he's perfectly fit for fpx.

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fadezis
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ValdemieGC [#3]

IMO Shao should be an initiator/sova/second duelist/flex player indeed. Controller is also an option but I think his talent would be wasted in this position.

FPX needs to find a cracked Jett player. Someone like Keloqz, for example :eyes:

yep

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fadezis [#5]

u'll see it in emea playoff
EDIT: k guys, i feel that you as new gambit watchers dont understand something.
Mb some of you remember that after M3 they talked a lot about their goal to stay unreadable. They always tryed to do it.
About swaps from duelists role to other:
Chronicle's already played reyna on Icebox for Gambit in first half of 2021 but they changed it for second half of year.
Sheydos in 2020 was also only duelist, but now that man impressive flex-support(breach skye sage) player
Redgar was only smokes for first half but he also can play supports and sova
d3ffo already played skye and astra on bind for gambit (https://www.vlr.gg/22316/moscow-five-jr-vs-gambit-esports-moscow-cybersport-series-week-6-qf ; even versus team singularity https://www.vlr.gg/22321/team-singularity-vs-gambit-esports-moscow-cybersport-series-week-6-gf)
Only thing that not changing that nAts always playing on anchor role
They always testing and tryin new stuff, so if u dont understand that it means u dont really following for Gambit

Thats not how role changes work buddy if chronicle plays jett what role does deffo play flex!! That's a horrible move.

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ValdemieGC
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deadSQUAD [#6]

if they need a jett just sign purp0, he's cracked, he's russian, he's free. just what they needed based on ur copium. personally as navi fans i want him to replace ssk but i dont see navi would kicked him so he's perfectly fit for fpx.

God, purp0 would be optimal

Also, he is "free" rn, right?

Edit: nvm, I think it's rumoured that VirtusPro is behind him already

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hekzy
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-ardiis/ange1 +keloqz

#11
fadezis
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0_AwayFromKindness [#8]

Thats not how role changes work buddy if chronicle plays jett what role does deffo play flex!! That's a horrible move.

wdym, d3ffo already played skye for example on Bind

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fadezis [#11]

wdym, d3ffo already played skye for example on Bind

Chronicle plays killjoy,sova and brimstone on haven xD apart from skye. Chronicle can be great at jett too but d3ffo can't be as impactful as chronicle on flex.

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ValdemieGC [#9]

God, purp0 would be optimal

Also, he is "free" rn, right?

Edit: nvm, I think it's rumoured that VirtusPro is behind him already

seriously? it would be a good pickups for VP to enter valorant, but i dont think there are any other good free player to build around him except if VP willing to buy out from other team.

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ufc
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fadezis [#5]

u'll see it in emea playoff
EDIT: k guys, i feel that you as new gambit watchers dont understand something.
Mb some of you remember that after M3 they talked a lot about their goal to stay unreadable. They always tryed to do it.
About swaps from duelists role to other:
Chronicle's already played reyna on Icebox for Gambit in first half of 2021 but they changed it for second half of year.
Sheydos in 2020 was also only duelist, but now that man impressive flex-support(breach skye sage) player
Redgar was only smokes for first half but he also can play supports and sova
d3ffo already played skye and astra on bind for gambit (https://www.vlr.gg/22316/moscow-five-jr-vs-gambit-esports-moscow-cybersport-series-week-6-qf ; even versus team singularity https://www.vlr.gg/22321/team-singularity-vs-gambit-esports-moscow-cybersport-series-week-6-gf)
Only thing that not changing that nAts always playing on anchor role
They always testing and tryin new stuff, so if u dont understand that it means u dont really following for Gambit

I am with you fadezis!

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fadezis
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deadSQUAD [#13]

seriously? it would be a good pickups for VP to enter valorant, but i dont think there are any other good free player to build around him except if VP willing to buy out from other team.

telfee from aimattack good anchor or dipsi
1ndra from AA also good sova(even tested for fnatic)
dreams can be good flex/smokes imo
Gray as IGL

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ShadowisBAD
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maybe tell ANGEL to stop shit talking international lan teams and maybe try to even make it remotely close to an intl lan :))

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fadezis
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ShadowisBAD [#16]

maybe tell ANGEL to stop shit talking international lan teams and maybe try to even make it remotely close to an intl lan :))

last thing he told about int teams " wow VivoKeyd really good, they have all the potential to be top 4"

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fadezis
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ufc [#14]

I am with you fadezis!

ty ;)

#19
fadezis
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0_AwayFromKindness [#12]

Chronicle plays killjoy,sova and brimstone on haven xD apart from skye. Chronicle can be great at jett too but d3ffo can't be as impactful as chronicle on flex.

d3ffo's games on Astra and Skye says the opposite.
you guys really start following for Gambit only after M3 event and dont know much about them. On champs they playing very close games with every team, scripts and positions are readable now you understand? Every time they starts to be readable they always change roles and scripts.

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fadezis
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kocunar [#2]

Chronicle on Jett comment made me stop reading

meanwhile chronicle
https://youtu.be/4I8Zo1QTKqE
https://youtu.be/MwjB8ZO5K7s
https://youtu.be/xJbmBuQVxug

#21
be_sashok
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hekzy [#10]

-ardiis/ange1 +keloqz

ardiis > keloqz

#22
be_sashok
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true

#23
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fadezis [#15]

telfee from aimattack good anchor or dipsi
1ndra from AA also good sova(even tested for fnatic)
dreams can be good flex/smokes imo
Gray as IGL

spellfull, drags, t1G3RW0LF, lee, jamieee also good option but those player definitely way below gambit level and i doubt they could qualify to eu master. but for it's enough for entry roster

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trola
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kocunar [#2]

Chronicle on Jett comment made me stop reading

ngl i watched chronicle on jett during his rank game a lot, and i dont think jett is for him. he is a good flex player but main jett? definitely no. his flex role is perfect

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fadezis [#17]

last thing he told about int teams " wow VivoKeyd really good, they have all the potential to be top 4"

My favourite is when he said NA would only get like 4 rounds against an EU.

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fadezis
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deadSQUAD [#23]

spellfull, drags, t1G3RW0LF, lee, jamieee also good option but those player definitely way below gambit level and i doubt they could qualify to eu master. but for it's enough for entry roster

dreAms with crowcrowd won gambit on first half of year (https://www.vlr.gg/14937/gambit-esports-vs-crow-rowd-champions-tour-cis-stage-2-challengers-1-qf)
Team singularity with Gray won 1 map againt Gambit on first half of year(https://www.vlr.gg/22321/team-singularity-vs-gambit-esports-moscow-cybersport-series-week-6-gf) and they ellimated gambit in 2020 first strike
Old OBG roster aswell https://www.vlr.gg/21654/gambit-esports-vs-one-breath-gaming-circuito-de-elite-round-1-open-qualifier-lr4

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fadezis [#26]

dreAms with crowcrowd won gambit on first half of year (https://www.vlr.gg/14937/gambit-esports-vs-crow-rowd-champions-tour-cis-stage-2-challengers-1-qf)
Team singularity with Gray won 1 map againt Gambit on first half of year(https://www.vlr.gg/22321/team-singularity-vs-gambit-esports-moscow-cybersport-series-week-6-gf) and they ellimated gambit in 2020 first strike
Old OBG roster aswell https://www.vlr.gg/21654/gambit-esports-vs-one-breath-gaming-circuito-de-elite-round-1-open-qualifier-lr4

but we all know those gambit are much different with current gambit. they growing into the best team in the world while those player still grinding tier 2 cis.
im not saying they are bad or something, it's just my fault to compare them to gambit. honestly they are pretty roster esp for entry roster.

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fadezis
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deadSQUAD [#27]

but we all know those gambit are much different with current gambit. they growing into the best team in the world while those player still grinding tier 2 cis.
im not saying they are bad or something, it's just my fault to compare them to gambit. honestly they are pretty roster esp for entry roster.

I mean u not wrong man, any roster can be on same level as gambit if have the same level coach and psychologist and they will train everyday. It's hard to discipline young men.

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fadezis [#28]

I mean u not wrong man, any roster can be on same level as gambit if have the same level coach and psychologist and they will train everyday. It's hard to discipline young men.

yes i agree man, with better treatment and sources any player could develop better.

#30
BIGGEST_VS_FAN
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fadezis [#18]

ty ;)

I am with you Daulet!

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