are you forgetting what this is all about. X10 is not nearly as impressive as VS. why? because their only feat is beating NV.
it is not the exact same thing wtf. literally every team took a map off GMB even the shit ones. in masters they did not drop a single map in playoffs other than VS. that means GMB was so much better than every other team at the time and only VS could be compared. to put it in simple terms which is more impressive beating a team with 67% winrste or like 90% winrate
yeah because every other team is getting better, (except vision strikers apparently) and if they took a map against the grand finalists they are not shit. and 100t literally beat GMB can they be compared? any team that made groups this tournament is better than vision strikers and it's really as simple as that.. they could only beat full sense
that is my point tho. every team got better which means taking a map off isn't special as it was back then. u literally jsut agreed with my point. you can't use the 'only the present matters not the past' argument cuz x10 lost pati which means they are nowhere near as good. u can't use the 'champions is a better way of measuring region strength' anymore the same way masters 3 results don't matter because 'it's only 1 tournament'