Vision strikers are kinda unlucky

Group of death 2x and when they won it the first time they had to play gambit first. Quite unfortunate TBH.

Idk how you can still call the one at Berlin the group of death, smb and acend were both overhyped onliners at that event.

They literally lost to fnatic and c9 who were both knocked out in the quarters lol. That was clearly not the group of death.

yeah. unlucky that they suck.

Honestly its embarassing how overrated they are, never did anything special. Got shit on by multiple teams, never even got 3rd place in these events. Yet theres some copium user like you that says they were unlucky. Lmfao.

if anything was the group of death, it was group B. 2 semi finalists, sentinels, and furia who were thought to be bad but kinda turned up

trillboylil [#3]

They literally lost to fnatic and c9 who were both knocked out in the quarters lol. That was clearly not the group of death.

Actual group of death was liquid, sen and kru.

copium

Dead this copium and narrative. vs are good team, but they're not a top 3 team like many thought.

/Thread

Doesn't matter. To be the best you have to beat the best.

It wasn't even that bad of a group. Kru, Sen, and TL Was the real group of death tbh. VS should have dominated their group imo.

andrewdamf [#5]

Honestly its embarassing how overrated they are, never did anything special. Got shit on by multiple teams, never even got 3rd place in these events. Yet theres some copium user like you that says they were unlucky. Lmfao.

They dominated Ace which is why people thought they were good.

andrewdamf [#5]

Honestly its embarassing how overrated they are, never did anything special. Got shit on by multiple teams, never even got 3rd place in these events. Yet theres some copium user like you that says they were unlucky. Lmfao.

I got -24 down votes for saying they wouldn't make top 4 at champs.

Supr3meGucci [#13]

I got -24 down votes for saying they wouldn't make top 4 at champs.

Oh yeah I remember that lmao in the end you were true 👍

stax talked so much shit then got whooped lmao

unlucky that they just not that good. Group of death was liquid,sen,kru

andrewdamf [#5]

Honestly its embarassing how overrated they are, never did anything special. Got shit on by multiple teams, never even got 3rd place in these events. Yet theres some copium user like you that says they were unlucky. Lmfao.

They had a 100+ game win streak which is why they were so hyped

I agree though didn't live up to the hype sadly :(

PlatOverlord [#7]

Actual group of death was liquid, sen and kru.

And furia :)

Yes, but VS also just played poorly. I believe they'll improve with experience, they're young and have time to develop.

ethanos [#17]

They had a 100+ game win streak which is why they were so hyped

I agree though didn't live up to the hype sadly :(

Korea is overhyped, they weren't that good, it's not hard to get an 100 game win streak when the region you're in sucks

meh they just wasnt that good tbh....

their play is so based on teamwork, if their setup/strat doesnt work, they have no idea wth to do

PlatOverlord [#7]

Actual group of death was liquid, sen and kru.

group of overrated teams

except teams from south america

KyLZi [#12]

They dominated Ace which is why people thought they were good.

VK did it two times :)

I would say they were a bit overrated but they arent a bad team by any means. Still a top 10 team imo when you look at all the aspects.

andrewdamf [#5]

Honestly its embarassing how overrated they are, never did anything special. Got shit on by multiple teams, never even got 3rd place in these events. Yet theres some copium user like you that says they were unlucky. Lmfao.

yet another brazilian calling other teams overrated jesus lol.

onlyfax [#26]

yet another brazilian calling other teams overrated jesus lol.

?

dolphincandy [#18]

And furia :)

true, furia took a map off sen and KRÜ, and they couldve won the series against SEN if they knew how to not throw every postplant on ascent, they went 6-6 halftime instead of 8-4

their lost is so painful, they trained their hardest even investing money to stay in german to scrim against other EU teams yet they got overwhelmed by c9 and fnc

ethanos [#17]

They had a 100+ game win streak which is why they were so hyped

I agree though didn't live up to the hype sadly :(

I can have a 100 win streak in iron, does it make me a good player?

Koreans teams are not overrated IMO simple because they are good at fps (not in EU LEVEL) but they really smart and they have good aim they just need more time to imprive and comepete with the stronger regions.
They showed up more than brazilians teams and don't get me wrong i think eventually a good brazilian team will show up but right know KR is above.
I think that Valorant will be way different than Lol where basically two regions dominate everything i true believe that one day brazil will win master or champions, same for latam and kr..etc, because the game is in the very beginning and peoplee tend to study much more the stronger teams than the underdogs i really doubt SEN studied Furia or Acend Studied Vivo Keyd vods while VK studied much more Acend for instance. I doubt Vikings studied Team secret but they studied a lot Gambit etc etc and in this context people can get surprised.

The thing that killed VS was their map picks.

They allowed Fnatic to get both Fracture and Icebox into the map pool while choosing to start T side on Ascent against C9.
Had they picked CT side instead, there is a high chance they would’ve just won the match 2-0.

trembolonaRage [#24]

VK did it two times :)

0/8

Like C9 Leaf said, their playstyle is too predictable, it becomes too easy to counter. Teams exploited this which resulted in them not being to adapt as quickly as they needed to. I mean, Fnatic Boaster is the biggest brain in the game, they knew damn near every move VS was gonna make.
Also, them relying on utility combos so much hurt them in the long run. So they weren't unlucky... They just couldn't "clear sites, defend retakes" their way to a championship title.
Add bad map picks, bad map bans in the mix, and there you go...

Maybe if they played Lakia, than it would make some difference...
#freeLakia

andrewdamf [#5]

Honestly its embarassing how overrated they are, never did anything special. Got shit on by multiple teams, never even got 3rd place in these events. Yet theres some copium user like you that says they were unlucky. Lmfao.

they were def top 3 in masters 3 cuz they vsed gambit first round and were the only team to take a map in playoffs. mind u nats said themselves VS were the strongest threat for them coming into the tournament even after scrims bootcamp.

V0sotros [#20]

Korea is overhyped, they weren't that good, it's not hard to get an 100 game win streak when the region you're in sucks

korea is still the best performing region outside of na eu. every other region except LATAM peaked in quarters (with the exception of brazil not even making quarters yet).

AladdinINSANE [#31]

Koreans teams are not overrated IMO simple because they are good at fps (not in EU LEVEL) but they really smart and they have good aim they just need more time to imprive and comepete with the stronger regions.
They showed up more than brazilians teams and don't get me wrong i think eventually a good brazilian team will show up but right know KR is above.
I think that Valorant will be way different than Lol where basically two regions dominate everything i true believe that one day brazil will win master or champions, same for latam and kr..etc, because the game is in the very beginning and peoplee tend to study much more the stronger teams than the underdogs i really doubt SEN studied Furia or Acend Studied Vivo Keyd vods while VK studied much more Acend for instance. I doubt Vikings studied Team secret but they studied a lot Gambit etc etc and in this context people can get surprised.

they are good fps they just dont like these kinds of games. take OW for example they have the best raw dps there. they simply traditionally dont like slow paced games

Andrew412 [#22]

group of overrated teams

+1 except KRU and Liquid

trembolonaRage [#24]

VK did it two times :)

Flag check xdddd

jimjam789 [#37]

they are good fps they just dont like these kinds of games. take OW for example they have the best raw dps there. they simply traditionally dont like slow paced games

Makes sense.