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Opinion: Valorant has seeding/bracketing issues

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Terma

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mx65sxJXUKvNow1Cdss-V7ktH22Sr7pBChCpTQ_jYfA/edit?usp=sharing

Can't have pictures in here so I have to resort to google doc. Wondering what y'all think. Wrote it like 2 weeks ago then Champions happened.

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Well I made the mistake of assuming that Group stage was seeded. Instead it is random, therefore it is better to interpret my thing as what Riot allowed to happen rather than how they organized the tournament

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woyage
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dude made a whole article

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arT_fan
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For comparison, the CS major is also single elims for the playoffs. The only difference is that the teams that won in the challengers and legends stages through the swiss-system are just overall better that it doesn't matter which team is paired with who. This becomes a problem when you want regional representation in Masters/Champions which Riot does rather than the "true best teams" fighting it out.

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arT_fan [#3]

For comparison, the CS major is also single elims for the playoffs. The only difference is that the teams that won in the challengers and legends stages through the swiss-system are just overall better that it doesn't matter which team is paired with who. This becomes a problem when you want regional representation in Masters/Champions which Riot does rather than the "true best teams" fighting it out.

I'm fine with the regional slots because that's good at getting all the international fans excited and it's interesting to see how the regions compare, just I don't think it's a good idea in the long term to have such weird brackets when there are only 3 international tournaments a year. Too much inconsistency will only cause problems later imo.

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Gomes255
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sad how it barely has replies cuz its so long, maybe r/ValorantCompetitive would give more attention to it idk but still sad

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Viktor22
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I feel the same. Dont you think if we had swiss tournament system just as cs go major we would be better off ??

#7
Origin
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WTF BRO MADE A WHOLE GOOGLE DOC fair fucking play bro grats

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Gomes255 [#5]

sad how it barely has replies cuz its so long, maybe r/ValorantCompetitive would give more attention to it idk but still sad

Ye just trying something new on this forum though

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Delusional_Mitch_Fan
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mitch

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PG_newt
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can i use this for my research essay?

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Terma
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PG_newt [#10]

can i use this for my research essay?

LMAO sure, most of it is speculative though

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ipok6
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small correction, vivo keyd was 1st brazil seed at masters berlin, not second

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Golem
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mf made a whole MLA format essay on valorant brackets

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Thomaslee
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Rito this year made it in such a way that 2 emea teams did not face off in the quaters....sad as the emea teams were too much for the sea teams to handle.That being said...it was the problem of the draw...not riot,And if not for kru,there was potentially a 4 emea semi final

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ipok6 [#12]

small correction, vivo keyd was 1st brazil seed at masters berlin, not second

You're right lol I swear I checked multiple times and it said Havan won because I was surprised as well when I saw it. I'll fix that right away

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Thomaslee [#14]

Rito this year made it in such a way that 2 emea teams did not face off in the quaters....sad as the emea teams were too much for the sea teams to handle.That being said...it was the problem of the draw...not riot,And if not for kru,there was potentially a 4 emea semi final

All the EMEA teams were first seed though so they shouldn't have faced each other in quarters

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hekzy
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Thomaslee [#14]

Rito this year made it in such a way that 2 emea teams did not face off in the quaters....sad as the emea teams were too much for the sea teams to handle.That being said...it was the problem of the draw...not riot,And if not for kru,there was potentially a 4 emea semi final

They were first seed. They were to play second seeds. ???

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array
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Why didnt you posted this before?

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BLJY
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woyage [#2]

dude made a whole article

wrote a whole essay

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array [#18]

Why didnt you posted this before?

I was too lazy to double check it and had finals to study for

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arT_fan
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Terma [#4]

I'm fine with the regional slots because that's good at getting all the international fans excited and it's interesting to see how the regions compare, just I don't think it's a good idea in the long term to have such weird brackets when there are only 3 international tournaments a year. Too much inconsistency will only cause problems later imo.

True. Like you said, these weird brackets can be avoided if these teams were allowed to play each other more often. Unfortunately I also agree that Riot will have to focus more on competitiveness over viewership to make this possible.

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BLJY [#19]

wrote a whole essay

Devised a whole thesis.

#23
Deez
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Post it in r/ValorantCompetitive

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PG_newt
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Terma [#11]

LMAO sure, most of it is speculative though

ok thanks :)

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alright lol

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