the fact that they transferred 99% of the best players from every game to valorant and they are still struggling internationally is actually makes me feel bad for them…
Nvm this is actually hilarious bahahaahah
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idkbro [#6]true, the fact that a rust player and 2 random fortnite kids beat 5 somewhat solid csgo pros is incredible, eu is the future in valorant, they had to build and develop the talent, na is not developing any talent rly
It just goes to show that valorant is a different game than CS rather than being good in CS/other games = good in valorant
thenutoriousPRO [#2]WTF IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT? WE SAW 3 GAMES OF NA VAL AND EVERYONE IS SAYING NA TRASH
with all the talent na has it should be like cis is in cs
GetsystheGr8 [#5]I never understood this... KR/CN better at league, CIS better at CS and Val is yet to be determined... EU does not "own" any Esport either and it's kind of sad coz they kind of have double the population of NA
EU owns cs. What does NA own?
mauge67 [#9]with all the talent na has it should be like cis is in cs
wait till nv and sen play they will not disappoint
idkbro [#6]true, the fact that a rust player and 2 random fortnite kids beat 5 somewhat solid csgo pros is incredible, eu is the future in valorant, they had to build and develop the talent, na is not developing any talent rly
and a vlogger
kristof [#11]EU owns cs. What does NA own?
Pretty sure it was S1mple running over every EU team for a whole year lol!
GetsystheGr8 [#5]I never understood this... KR/CN better at league, CIS better at CS and Val is yet to be determined... EU does not "own" any Esport either and it's kind of sad coz they kind of have double the population of NA
EU owns CS, I'm sorry. EU has won all but 5 majors. Also EU > NA in league by far. EU > NA in dota. EU > NA in r6.
idkbro [#6]true, the fact that a rust player and 2 random fortnite kids beat 5 somewhat solid csgo pros is incredible, eu is the future in valorant, they had to build and develop the talent, na is not developing any talent rly
That's because NA is raised on consoles, if more kids were given gaming PC's instead there would be equal talent across the board.
Gorkem [#13]Burgers
Ah yes EU, where you can't even buy an acre of land without spending your life savings
wedqatwrtgehge [#8]It just goes to show that valorant is a different game than CS rather than being good in CS/other games = good in valorant
What about Liquid?
GetsystheGr8 [#16]Pretty sure it was S1mple running over every EU team for a whole year lol!
Russia is in Europe brother
Netero [#18]That's because NA is raised on consoles, if more kids were given gaming PC's instead there would be equal talent across the board.
No excuses this time. You have almost the exact same population in valorant as all of EMEA. No excuses.
Netero [#18]That's because NA is raised on consoles, if more kids were given gaming PC's instead there would be equal talent across the board.
shhh you're breaking their genetic supremacy complex
wedqatwrtgehge [#8]It just goes to show that valorant is a different game than CS rather than being good in CS/other games = good in valorant
true. look at tenz, dog at cs but top tier in val
wedqatwrtgehge [#8]It just goes to show that valorant is a different game than CS rather than being good in CS/other games = good in valorant
I mean if you are good in cs you are going to be good at valorant but having 80% of your scene based on ex csgo pros and maybe some overwatch pros wont be good for the future imo of NA, I wouldnt be surprised if they start importing some EU players 1-2 years from now
hekzy [#17]EU owns CS, I'm sorry. EU has won all but 5 majors. Also EU > NA in league by far. EU > NA in dota. EU > NA in r6.
Dota is dead game, R6 is ran by brazilians, and same number of EU and NA teams made quarters last year in worlds
crazy_igel_fan [#24]shhh you're breaking their genetic supremacy complex
That's an absurd ideology, most of NA is just European immigrants.
GetsystheGr8 [#27]Dota is dead game, R6 is ran by brazilians, and same number of EU and NA teams made quarters last year in worlds
"Dota is dead game" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
hekzy [#20]What about Liquid?
what about gambit? what about fnatic? what about acend? there's always going to be exceptions and past CSGO players will have the upper hand, but as time goes by you'll see more and more valorant talent with non-csgo histories take over the scene.
hekzy [#23]No excuses this time. You have almost the exact same population in valorant as all of EMEA. No excuses.
It's not an excuse It's an observation
GetsystheGr8 [#16]Pretty sure it was S1mple running over every EU team for a whole year lol!
na education lmao. S1mple is european. He's ukrainian and CİS is part of europe. Wtf are you talking about
hekzy [#23]No excuses this time. You have almost the exact same population in valorant as all of EMEA. No excuses.
??? no we don't your braindead.
dapada [#29]"Dota is dead game" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It's 1/100000000 of what league is... it shouldn't even be one of the main esports... only reason it is big is because of community raised prize pool
Gorkem [#32]na education lmao. S1mple is european. He's ukrainian and CİS is part of europe. Wtf are you talking about
EU always be like "russia is bad" until they win something
GetsystheGr8 [#35]It's 1/100000000 of what league is... it shouldn't even be one of the main esports... only reason it is big is because of community raised prize pool
only reason it is big is because of "community" raised prize pool
so is it dead or not?
GetsystheGr8 [#35]It's 1/100000000 of what league is... it shouldn't even be one of the main esports... only reason it is big is because of community raised prize pool
and its still the second most played game on steam before cs
mauge67 [#38]and its still the second most played game on steam before cs
If league was on steam Dota wouldn't even exist
wedqatwrtgehge [#4]Literally the first game of the tourney and the maps were 11-13 13-11 and 12-14. Fnatic also looked much better than their online selves with Derke playing like he did in Reykjavik and C9 looked much worse than their online selves with leaf underperforming hard.
common wesdfsrewfqe W
dapada [#37]only reason it is big is because of "community" raised prize pool
so is it dead or not?
I mean if league started a community raised prize pool (not selling skins) all the dota pros would switch
GetsystheGr8 [#35]It's 1/100000000 of what league is... it shouldn't even be one of the main esports... only reason it is big is because of community raised prize pool
bro league is fucking huge, every other esport is 1/100000000 of what league but I asure you dota is not dead, insane viewership and player base
GetsystheGr8 [#41]I mean if league started a community raised prize pool (not selling skins) all the dota pros would switch
ah yes the hypothetical answer
GetsystheGr8 [#36]EU always be like "russia is bad" until they win something
Who says "russia is bad" idk but you need to learn geography. Russia is in eu and also CİS is part of europe
Netero [#28]That's an absurd ideology, most of NA is just European immigrants.
not anymore, enjoy your multicultural shithole
hekzy [#42]You literally have 80%~ of EMEA's population.
??? EU education KEKW.
US+Canada = 370 million
Europe + Africa+ Middle East = 2 billion
you're braindead.
in valorant we are less than half of EMEA.
Gorkem [#45]Who says "russia is bad" idk but you need to learn geography. Russia is in eu and also CİS is part of europe
The guy under u is Russian and he saying fuck Europeans... soooooooo
wedqatwrtgehge [#30]what about gambit? what about fnatic? what about acend? there's always going to be exceptions and past CSGO players will have the upper hand, but as time goes by you'll see more and more valorant talent with non-csgo histories take over the scene.
Gambit 3/5 ex cs
Acend 2/5
Fnatic 3/5
Revlo [#47]??? EU education KEKW.
US+Canada = 370 million
Europe + Africa+ Middle East = 2 billion
you're braindead.
in valorant we are less than half of EMEA.
he's clearly talking about "valorant population"
No excuses this time. You have almost the exact same "population in valorant" as all of EMEA. No excuses.
valdr0 [#21]navi owns cs go cry eu bot, beating na = child play
so did astralis for almost 2 years,and nip and fnatic,and sk 2016-2017,probably every region expect cis has already had a dominant era,even NA with liquid in 2019,navi has always been a close second for years it was just a matter of time when they were gonna find a good lineup and dominate like they should have,stay humble and enjoy this era
dapada [#50]he's clearly talking about "valorant population"
No excuses this time. You have almost the exact same "population in valorant" as all of EMEA. No excuses.
"in valorant we are less than half of EMEA"
you're braindead.
GetsystheGr8 [#39]If league was on steam Dota wouldn't even exist
well league isnt on steam so your point is kinda irrelevant
Revlo [#47]??? EU education KEKW.
US+Canada = 370 million
Europe + Africa+ Middle East = 2 billion
you're braindead.
in valorant we are less than half of EMEA.
Oh you're THAT braindead. What does that have to do with anything if EU has 1m players and NA has 800k? Idk what general population has to do with a game's talent pool.
mauge67 [#56]well league isnt on steam so your point is kinda irrelevant
just stop bro, at this point he's just going to answer all of your question with the word "if"
Revlo [#55]"in valorant we are less than half of EMEA"
you're braindead.
You're not. You're at least 75%, and that is basing it off of Radiant RR qualification. In EMEA it's 400, NA 300, Brazil 200. Guess why.
Netero [#18]That's because NA is raised on consoles, if more kids were given gaming PC's instead there would be equal talent across the board.
I doubt it honestly, a lot more europeans and cs is just way more popular than it will ever be in NA, EU+CIS talent pool is just too big
wedqatwrtgehge [#52]were any of them good?
The only CSGO players that switched and were actually good are: Nivera
Rest were garbo anyway
wedqatwrtgehge [#52]were any of them good?
they are pros.. of course they're good dude..
but yeah I do agree with you, being a pro in CS =/= god in val
GetsystheGr8 [#27]Dota is dead game, R6 is ran by brazilians, and same number of EU and NA teams made quarters last year in worlds
EU is clearly better than NA in League of legends. If you see the number of finals/semifinals of both regions at worlds. I counted every worlds, EU had 12 participants beyond semi-finals, while NA had 3.
Riot tries to sell that NA vs EU is a thing, but it has never been a thing. NA had been to semifinals with 2 teams in season 1, and cloud 9 in season 8. While EU had been to almost every semi final...
Before everyone starts saying that Brazil sucks at league, i already know that, i just want to say that EU vs NA is not even a thing in league, NA is clearly a worse region.
hekzy [#61]You're not. You're at least 75%, and that is basing it off of Radiant RR qualification. In EMEA it's 400, NA 300, Brazil 200. Guess why.
nope, EMEA is around 2.5 mil players NA is like 1 mil
NA to get imm 2 u need 90 rr
EMEA u need like 210 rr to get imm 2
hekzy [#57]Oh you're THAT braindead. What does that have to do with anything if EU has 1m players and NA has 800k? Idk what general population has to do with a game's talent pool.
EMEA has more than 2.3 mil players and NA has a little over 1 mil
thenutoriousPRO [#25]true. look at tenz, dog at cs but top tier in val
TenZ had good mechanical talents in CS. He just had bad tournaments on a team he wasnt comfortable with
KoreanOverlord [#67]EMEA has more than 2.3 mil players and NA has a little over 1 mil
Where do these stats come from?
m8te [#3]Imagine a Val team with
Twitzz - sova
NAF - 2nd duelist + flex
MarkE - smokes
Elige - deulist
Grim - sentinel
nah grim and MarkE dont deserve
GetsystheGr8 [#39]If league was on steam Dota wouldn't even exist
mf only replies with "if" LMAO
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Cheasle2 [#72]true but didnt that also happen with EU and KR?
good EU cs players are still playing cs so idk what ur saying,KR was never good at cs
GetsystheGr8 [#19]Ah yes EU, where you can't even buy an acre of land without spending your life savings
NO WAY AN AMERICAN FLAG IS SAYING THIS LMFAOOOOOOOOO
GetsystheGr8 [#5]I never understood this... KR/CN better at league, CIS better at CS and Val is yet to be determined... EU does not "own" any Esport either and it's kind of sad coz they kind of have double the population of NA
EU has had the best CS team of all time, what has NA had? Mediocrity in every single esport?
KoreanOverlord [#67]EMEA has more than 2.3 mil players and NA has a little over 1 mil
32k immortals on EU leaderboard, 20k on NA, % is the same, eu is only 1.5x>na in terms of playerbase
dreamy_ [#75]good EU cs players are still playing cs so idk what ur saying,KR was never good at cs
ah i see nevermind i misinterpreted what he said
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