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Red Bull Home Ground #2

Playoffs: Grand Final

Sunday, November 7th

12:20 PM EST

Patch 3.09

Team Liquid

[2074]

final

3 : 1

vs.

Bo5

Acend

[2036]

TL pick Split; ACE pick Bind; TL pick Ascent; ACE pick Breeze; TL pick Icebox

Betting

$100 on Team Liquid returned $167 at 1.67 pre-match odds

Streams

Red Bull

Red Bull TR

VODs

Full Match

Maps/Stats

Overview

Performance

Economy

Logs (Soon)

All Maps

1 Split

2 Bind

3 Ascent

4 Breeze

5 Icebox

Team Liquid

4 / 8 / 3

Split PICK

53:59

Acend

8 / 4 / 1

ACE

All

Attack

Defend

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Jamppi TL	1.45 1.33 1.56	277 281 274	27 13 14	/ 18 11 7 /	10 6 4	+9 +2 +7	75% 71% 79%	185 184 186	41% 48% 33%	4 2 2	0 0 0	+4 +2 +2
L1NK TL	1.15 1.18 1.11	232 228 236	23 11 12	/ 18 10 8 /	3 0 3	+5 +1 +4	71% 71% 71%	157 167 146	33% 26% 44%	1 0 1	0 0 0	+1 0 +1
ScreaM TL	1.08 0.63 1.53	215 109 322	22 6 16	/ 19 11 8 /	4 2 2	+3 -5 +8	71% 71% 71%	145 84 206	43% 38% 45%	5 2 3	5 3 2	0 -1 +1
Nivera TL	1.02 0.78 1.26	223 169 278	24 9 15	/ 20 12 8 /	6 2 4	+4 -3 +7	75% 64% 86%	145 96 194	23% 0% 37%	3 0 3	2 1 1	+1 -1 +2
soulcas TL	0.49 0.34 0.64	96 84 110	6 3 3	/ 19 11 8 /	8 1 7	-13 -8 -5	61% 43% 79%	82 67 97	7% 11% 6%	1 0 1	7 6 1	-6 -6 0

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
zeek ACE	1.51 1.24 1.79	303 285 322	30 14 16	/ 21 14 7 /	6 4 2	+9 0 +9	82% 79% 86%	201 182 219	13% 16% 11%	3 2 1	3 3 0	0 -1 +1
cNed ACE	1.23 1.11 1.35	244 239 251	24 11 13	/ 19 11 8 /	3 2 1	+5 0 +5	64% 57% 71%	158 165 150	37% 52% 20%	7 1 6	5 3 2	+2 -2 +4
Kiles ACE	1.00 0.99 1.01	180 171 191	18 8 10	/ 20 11 9 /	11 3 8	-2 -3 +1	75% 71% 79%	128 114 141	39% 43% 35%	3 1 2	1 0 1	+2 +1 +1
starxo ACE	0.59 0.48 0.70	123 79 167	13 4 9	/ 21 11 10 /	6 3 3	-8 -7 -1	57% 43% 71%	88 46 130	40% 31% 45%	1 0 1	2 1 1	-1 -1 0
BONECOLD ACE	0.47 0.09 0.84	90 66 116	9 3 6	/ 21 13 8 /	8 4 4	-12 -10 -2	61% 50% 71%	66 42 91	19% 25% 16%	0 0 0	3 3 0	-3 -3 0

All

Attack

Defend

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Jamppi TL	1.29 1.09 1.19	231 238 221	87 46 41	/ 67 32 35 /	34 17 17	+20 +14 +6	72% 76% 69%	152 157 146	26% 26% 26%	17 9 8	9 4 5	+8 +5 +3
ScreaM TL	1.05 1.22 1.13	232 206 259	88 40 48	/ 76 37 39 /	16 8 8	+12 +3 +9	73% 78% 69%	153 137 170	39% 32% 47%	23 10 13	17 10 7	+6 0 +6
L1NK TL	1.04 0.96 1.00	189 170 205	71 34 37	/ 72 31 41 /	29 12 17	-1 +3 -4	73% 81% 65%	131 125 137	32% 24% 41%	6 3 3	4 1 3	+2 +2 0
Nivera TL	0.94 1.02 0.98	188 200 189	80 39 41	/ 74 40 34 /	20 11 9	+6 -1 +7	74% 76% 72%	127 123 130	24% 27% 21%	8 3 5	5 2 3	+3 +1 +2
soulcas TL	0.94 0.86 0.90	166 180 157	60 35 25	/ 75 37 38 /	47 17 30	-15 -2 -13	76% 76% 76%	123 124 123	27% 33% 22%	8 4 4	11 8 3	-3 -4 +1

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
cNed ACE	1.32 1.00 1.16	237 288 186	88 54 34	/ 76 40 36 /	27 15 12	+12 +14 -2	67% 72% 61%	154 183 125	34% 40% 26%	21 10 11	16 7 9	+5 +3 +2
zeek ACE	0.95 1.26 1.11	241 210 269	86 39 47	/ 83 43 40 /	26 12 14	+3 -4 +7	71% 80% 63%	159 137 182	19% 18% 19%	10 6 4	11 8 3	-1 -2 +1
Kiles ACE	1.05 0.91 0.98	175 179 175	70 35 35	/ 73 33 40 /	29 11 18	-3 +2 -5	74% 76% 72%	121 124 118	29% 29% 28%	9 4 5	11 4 7	-2 0 -2
starxo ACE	1.02 0.92 0.97	177 193 174	74 40 34	/ 74 36 38 /	27 12 15	0 +4 -4	67% 63% 70%	126 126 126	35% 38% 33%	3 0 3	8 5 3	-5 -5 0
BONECOLD ACE	0.60 0.71 0.65	127 121 130	46 22 24	/ 80 40 40 /	40 25 15	-34 -18 -16	68% 72% 63%	88 81 95	27% 29% 26%	3 1 2	16 9 7	-13 -8 -5

Team Liquid

4 / 8 / 3

Bind PICK

1:04:00

Acend

8 / 4 / 5

ACE

All

Attack

Defend

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Nivera TL	1.19 1.24 1.15	245 266 226	29 15 14	/ 21 12 9 /	3 1 2	+8 +3 +5	75% 69% 81%	157 163 151	26% 37% 18%	2 1 1	1 0 1	+1 +1 0
ScreaM TL	1.17 1.23 1.11	246 271 222	27 15 12	/ 24 12 12 /	5 3 2	+3 +3 0	78% 81% 75%	158 174 143	32% 28% 44%	8 3 5	7 4 3	+1 -1 +2
soulcas TL	1.00 0.90 1.09	228 225 231	25 13 12	/ 26 13 13 /	14 5 9	-1 0 -1	81% 81% 81%	158 157 160	35% 34% 36%	3 0 3	1 1 0	+2 -1 +3
Jamppi TL	0.96 0.87 1.06	183 173 195	20 10 10	/ 19 11 8 /	9 2 7	+1 -1 +2	66% 63% 69%	123 103 143	21% 9% 32%	4 4 0	3 1 2	+1 +3 -2
L1NK TL	0.75 0.74 0.76	137 79 197	14 4 10	/ 23 9 14 /	13 7 6	-9 -5 -4	78% 88% 69%	97 64 130	23% 17% 26%	1 1 0	2 1 1	-1 0 -1

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
starxo ACE	1.44 1.47 1.41	280 341 221	34 20 14	/ 22 12 10 /	9 3 6	+12 +8 +4	75% 69% 81%	181 213 150	36% 37% 34%	0 0 0	3 2 1	-3 -2 -1
cNed ACE	1.17 1.19 1.14	229 231 229	25 13 12	/ 23 12 11 /	15 7 8	+2 +1 +1	72% 81% 63%	172 166 178	31% 42% 22%	6 3 3	2 1 1	+4 +2 +2
Kiles ACE	1.08 0.81 1.34	193 146 242	24 8 16	/ 21 10 11 /	8 2 6	+3 -2 +5	75% 69% 81%	121 95 147	29% 21% 34%	3 2 1	3 1 2	0 +1 -1
zeek ACE	0.78 0.86 0.71	184 181 188	17 10 7	/ 25 12 13 /	7 1 6	-8 -2 -6	66% 75% 56%	119 112 126	14% 13% 15%	4 2 2	4 2 2	0 0 0
BONECOLD ACE	0.58 0.56 0.60	120 129 112	13 7 6	/ 24 12 12 /	11 6 5	-11 -5 -6	72% 88% 56%	85 92 78	28% 32% 24%	1 0 1	6 3 3	-5 -3 -2

Team Liquid

8 / 5

Ascent PICK

43:29

Acend

4 / 7

ACE

All

Attack

Defend

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
L1NK TL	1.43 1.47 1.40	241 212 272	21 10 11	/ 14 5 9 /	10 5 5	+7 +5 +2	79% 92% 67%	171 159 182	48% 40% 57%	3 1 2	0 0 0	+3 +1 +2
Jamppi TL	1.30 1.71 0.90	277 335 220	23 14 9	/ 15 6 9 /	3 2 1	+8 +8 0	71% 83% 58%	185 231 139	23% 22% 27%	6 2 4	3 2 1	+3 0 +3
ScreaM TL	1.22 0.98 1.45	262 203 322	22 9 13	/ 17 8 9 /	6 2 4	+5 +1 +4	79% 83% 75%	185 134 235	47% 38% 54%	6 3 3	2 1 1	+4 +2 +2
soulcas TL	0.78 0.88 0.69	113 121 106	9 6 3	/ 15 7 8 /	13 5 8	-6 -1 -5	79% 83% 75%	83 76 91	31% 63% 19%	1 1 0	1 1 0	0 0 0
Nivera TL	0.74 0.83 0.65	127 172 82	13 8 5	/ 16 8 8 /	1 1 0	-3 0 -3	79% 92% 67%	85 105 65	15% 25% 8%	1 1 0	1 0 1	0 +1 -1

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
cNed ACE	1.18 1.65 0.70	246 400 94	21 17 4	/ 18 10 8 /	4 3 1	+3 +7 -4	63% 75% 50%	143 227 60	44% 44% 42%	3 2 1	5 2 3	-2 0 -2
zeek ACE	1.06 0.57 1.54	265 149 382	22 7 15	/ 21 10 11 /	5 2 3	+1 -3 +4	67% 75% 58%	172 96 248	37% 38% 36%	1 0 1	2 2 0	-1 -2 +1
BONECOLD ACE	0.87 1.06 0.67	169 186 154	13 7 6	/ 18 8 10 /	13 9 4	-5 -1 -4	71% 83% 58%	113 122 104	28% 30% 26%	2 1 1	4 2 2	-2 -1 -1
Kiles ACE	0.80 1.18 0.42	141 178 105	12 8 4	/ 16 6 10 /	4 3 1	-4 +2 -6	67% 75% 58%	111 144 78	22% 24% 20%	0 0 0	5 2 3	-5 -2 -3
starxo ACE	0.78 0.74 0.81	114 88 142	9 4 5	/ 15 7 8 /	9 5 4	-6 -3 -3	71% 67% 75%	87 64 110	22% 27% 19%	1 0 1	1 1 0	0 -1 +1

Team Liquid

4 / 9

Breeze PICK

44:23

Acend

8 / 3

ACE

All

Attack

Defend

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
soulcas TL	1.35 1.73 0.98	228 292 165	20 13 7	/ 15 6 9 /	12 6 6	+5 +7 -2	83% 100% 67%	165 196 135	35% 38% 32%	3 3 0	2 0 2	+1 +3 -2
Jamppi TL	1.08 1.41 0.74	187 180 196	17 9 8	/ 15 4 11 /	12 7 5	+2 +5 -3	79% 92% 67%	117 123 112	15% 25% 12%	3 1 2	3 1 2	0 0 0
ScreaM TL	1.07 1.35 0.78	203 236 171	17 10 7	/ 16 6 10 /	1 1 0	+1 +4 -3	63% 75% 50%	124 152 97	34% 32% 38%	4 2 2	3 2 1	+1 0 +1
Nivera TL	0.89 0.85 0.92	158 176 142	14 7 7	/ 17 8 9 /	10 7 3	-3 -1 -2	67% 83% 50%	107 121 94	30% 33% 23%	2 1 1	1 1 0	+1 0 +1
L1NK TL	0.73 0.86 0.59	147 182 113	13 9 4	/ 17 7 10 /	3 0 3	-4 +2 -6	63% 75% 50%	107 125 90	23% 13% 50%	1 1 0	2 0 2	-1 +1 -2

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
zeek ACE	1.12 1.12 1.11	211 221 203	17 8 9	/ 16 7 9 /	8 5 3	+1 +1 0	71% 92% 50%	153 157 149	21% 21% 22%	2 2 0	2 1 1	0 +1 -1
cNed ACE	1.06 1.43 0.69	228 312 146	18 13 5	/ 16 7 9 /	5 3 2	+2 +6 -4	67% 75% 58%	139 185 93	24% 17% 38%	5 4 1	4 1 3	+1 +3 -2
Kiles ACE	1.02 1.33 0.71	185 234 138	16 11 5	/ 16 6 10 /	6 3 3	0 +5 -5	79% 92% 67%	123 153 93	24% 29% 17%	3 1 2	2 1 1	+1 0 +1
starxo ACE	0.99 1.35 0.64	191 233 149	18 12 6	/ 16 6 10 /	3 1 2	+2 +6 -4	63% 75% 50%	136 166 105	40% 48% 29%	1 0 1	2 1 1	-1 -1 0
BONECOLD ACE	0.75 0.78 0.73	127 112 144	11 5 6	/ 17 7 10 /	8 6 2	-6 -2 -4	67% 67% 67%	93 70 115	37% 25% 47%	0 0 0	3 1 2	-3 -1 -2

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ShadowisBAD

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EZ for Liquid
NIV ERA
ScreaM Ed shots ur stepsis + Nivera steals ur gf + soulcas fails to knife vanity again + L1nk bald buff + Jaampii is ur dad

Traderslife

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3-0 For Liquid

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durum

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you forgot this one: + gambit is clear + ratio

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Traderslife

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Gam who?

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hiyo

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Gambit deez nuts

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Giannero

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Gambot

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kamran

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you did soulcas so dirty ma man 😂

#117

itish

-1

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YAYE

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sad, once upon a time, shadow was liked by the community

#123

ShadowisBAD

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And that day was February 30th

kremo

-1

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EZ For Scream,Nivera BROS

kocunar

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LDN vs Gambit

#20

Giannero

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Gyldom Galva lost :(

s1nek

-7

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Gambit 3 - 1 Liquid

crazy_igel_fan

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Liquid vs Acend, hope I’m wrong tho

#39

crazy_igel_fan

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I was right :(

#43

Giannero

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Actually it's the best possible match up, we mever saw TL vs Acend and even tho it's not in a VCT event, it's still gonna be interesting

#44

crazy_igel_fan

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Yeah that’s true, didn’t realize that

Was hoping for underdogs like LDN but this isn’t bad either tbh

Not_alt_account

-11

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FUT 3-2 LDN

thanatos11

-4

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2-0 Liquid vs Gambit

unchained66x

-3

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Liquid 1-3 Giants

#10

PrTsty

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3 liquid
2 acNed

#45

PrTsty

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people were downvoting me for saying acend will make it lmao

#111

PrTsty

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#11

MilanTheMyth

-2

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#LetsGoLiquid
Liquid 3-2 Gambit

#12

EZ4ME123

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Acend and liquid plss

#13

Paftie

-2

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3-2 liqud gambit

#14

starscream

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FUT 3 - 2 TENSTAR

#18

unchained66x

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if this happens i will become bald and post it

#15

spliffbill101

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ace 3-1 liquid

#16

Enter_username

-4

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Gambit got it! 3:1 against liquid or ldn

#17

DrudaL

-3

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gambit win 3-1

#21

tegron

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ace vs TL ---- Ace 2-0

#22

OkOkay

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TL 3-1

#23

chipsaKEK

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Liquid 2-0 acend

#25

ByMega

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ace 2 - 0 tl

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newbie

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liquidchoke

#54

MilanTheMyth

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Getting to Grandfinal and choking (hope not) isn't a disappointment.

#69

Liquid_fan

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are you in the early 2021? that does not happen anymore, besides reaching a final and losing it is not choke I say it for acend of course, they gave their best effort

#70

newbie

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Im jk bro calmdown

#28

Yasin1Tap

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ACEND 2-0 SO EZZZZZZZZZ

#29

DrudaL

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liquid 2-0

#30

Dolphin

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Are we finally gonna have our first true bo5?

#31

Ulaaaa

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ACE 2-0

#32

ciro

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LETS GO LIQUID
TL 3-2 AcNed
banger game hopium

#33

emirerays

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Acend 2-0

#34

DARZY

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Liquid 3-1 Acend

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Zenar

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3 - 1 acend

#36

ImpudentBeast

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Liquid 2-0

#37

DAZAI

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Both teams are so fricking good, they literally dominated their way through here, as a Liquid fan i see another 2-0 win by liquid with both map being close, 13-9,15-13

#38

Szerefere

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GO ACEND!

#40

TheLoliko

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soy fan de los dos, suerte.

#41

Neon74

-1

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LETS GO LIQUID!!

#42

Yepsir

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cNed vs scream

Bangerrrrr

ACEND 3-1

#46

D_SlayerR

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Acend 3 - 2 TL

#47

CherryCoke

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3-1 liquid

#48

alecpog

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BROTHER BUFF COMING INTO EFFECT IN THIS BO5 GURANTEED. LIQUID 3 - 2 AcNed

#49

Davyson50

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ahora si se viene lo chiiiiiiiiiiidooooooooooo

#50

var1ance

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ez for nivera

#51

MilanTheMyth

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Finally some balanced odds

#52

eSBee

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If they 2-0 acend here, TL are going to the finals of the Champions

#53

MilanTheMyth

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The titans are finally fighting

#55

OKMAN

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finally ACE vs LIQUID, The two best eu teams atm

#56

cripsy

-1

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cned with friends 3-1

#57

Langacune

-1

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starxo and friends 2-0

#58

Not_alt_account

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Cned have massive cock

#59

FightWasTaken

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Cned and friends

if they have to keep relying on cned to drop 40 every game just so they can win i dont think theyll have a chance at winning champions but cned could still carry them through it ig until they make some roster changes i dont think they win champions

#60

PoPanda

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Feeling wins for both TL and TEN today.

Let's Go Liquid!!

#61

unknown_trash

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Are we going to get proquid or chokequid today?

#65

MilanTheMyth

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Liquid

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jimmy4

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3-1 acend ez

#63

UrNightmare

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ez for Navi

#64

WinterBlac

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After all this time, the 2 Giants will face for the first time

#67

MilanTheMyth

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Godzilla VS Kong but more balanced

#66

MilanTheMyth

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Interesting how Acend have higher odds.

#68

Liquid_fan

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TL 2 Acend 0; 13-8 14-12

#71

Zenar

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Liquid fan

#72

MilanTheMyth

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Screw TL VS ACE
Be quiet I'm watching Giants explore London

#73

Chovymaker

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ACE 2-0 TL / 13-9 / 13-10

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breakddown

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2-0 ACEND WIN

#75

SEN_spongebob

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Gl!

#76

MilanTheMyth

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This game is so Balanced

#77

deva

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Lucky for Acend to win both pistols, hm.

#78

Dest1ny

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How tf did they choke a 1v3 wtf liquid

#79

kennethg

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KEKW SOULCAS

#80

Ulaaaa

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we were fine again
next map bind

#81

n1kkobami

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Is this full bo5? Or 1st team to lead by 2 maps win?

#84

acels1

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All playoff matches will be in the unique ‘Home Ground’ format where each team picks a “home map” for their first map pick. If a team wins both home maps, ie is 2-0 up in the series, then they win the series and no further maps will be played. If the score is 1-1 after the first 2 maps, the series will continue until a team has won 3 maps.

#82

Adri07_

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CHOKECND

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PoPanda

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Soulcas looks crisp on Kay-0. Well played to come back after a shocker of a first map! Good mental!

#85

Mangal

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ACEND able to destroy 2vs5 pistol round.

#86

MilanTheMyth

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CHOKEND wtf First Split now Bind???
Where's the Script?
8-4 Half again 10-4 lead then Acend choked.

#87

Gunzout97

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Nivera is cracked wtf

#88

Ulaaaa

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WTF

#89

acels1

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ascend loves to choke

#90

1ucid

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lol what a game

#91

rbvwolf1

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what is happening amk

#92

Swarthzand

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cned god of entry

#93

Ulaaaa

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Bind is the Acend's honor

#95

Dest1ny

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These Is so even damn

#96

EarthABC

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ACE Team

#97

acels1

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wtf this scream guy mans

#98

Yepsir

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Scream is so cringe

#103

Traderslife

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cause he's destroying your favorite player

#104

Yepsir

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No
this is not my reason
Every time he looks at the camera and says fuck youu

And thats Fucking cringe

#118

DAZAI

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If you are not familiar with a player, don't go making up your own thing, everytime he makes an insane play he says- "Lets fuckin go" which is just an honest reaction everyone gives after they make great plays

#99

Ulaaaa

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8:4 curse

#100

Zenar

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SCOREBOARD PLSSSS

#101

Zenar

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SCOREBOARD HEY!

#102

yungbasel

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Hell, what a series!

#105

Ulaaaa

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no way 8:4 again

#106

Dieguzz00

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1-6 3-7 7-10

#107

soufianfps

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this liquid is stronger than ever

#108

ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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Good outcome for this tournament imo..

Liquid needed the confidence boost after the roster move and the other champions participants needed a reminder, that they are mortal and will fall behind if they don't prac their hearts out.

#109

dagbarox

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cNed and Scream both 88 / 76

#110

Dieguzz00

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Ammalatevi porcaccioddio

#112

Ulaaaa

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gg
now it's time to get ready for Berlin

#113

arturo_fdez

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How do u play 4 maps, get 8-4 first half score in three of them and manage to win only one xddddd
Sadge :( ggwp

#114

ALEISTER

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Bonecold needs to develop his game like redgar.

#115

yungbasel

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Love this team. Great tournament

#116

n1kkobami

-8

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Acend tried very hard to lose the series. Nice throw.

#120

hiyo

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how much?

#119

DAZAI

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#Letsgoliquid i am so proud of being a TL fan