In my opinion:
EG Demon1 (2023 Champs) (Duelist)
2023 Chronicle (Initiator/viper)
2023 Leo (initiator)
GMB nAts (IGL) (Sentinel)
2021/2024 TenZ (Smokes/Duelist)
I was thinking about going with aspas with demon1, but I don't think it would work so had to go off of aspas
Drop urs in the replies as well
cumbackderkepls [#2]Derke clears Demon1 in his sleep
Current demon1, yes but eg demon1 clears every human being on this planet who has ever touched valo
Aspas/Derke/KK/T3xture/Jawgemo/Zekken > Demon1
Initiator is easy since the current players are still catching up to Leo
Flex is also easy since Chronicle is the only one who truly masters all of the agents he plays.
Sentinel is hard since you've got Less and Chichoo who've won champs and can hard carry but you've also got Meteor and Alfa who can do the same and have 2 international titles to their name + they're more flexible.
Pure IGL probably Boaster/Saadhak but in this day and age you need a fragger so i would go for Valyn as my team is in need for a smokes player.
H3ENnZ [#3]power house roster but whos gonna play raze
when your the best in the world, you play to your strengths. just lock jett every map except fracture
Gutssz [#8]Alfajer
Leo
nAts
Chronicle
TenZ
Who's gonna play duelist? If tenz then who plays smokes?
itsFake [#9]aspas or derke instead of demon1, even though demon1's prime is scary, he has no versatility, he doesn't know neon or raze for example
Fair point but this team would still win everything with demon1 locking jett every map tbh except fracture where he can switch to smokes and tenz can play raze (he used to play in 2021)
TaniBoy7 [#14]Fair point but this team would still win everything with demon1 locking jett every map tbh except fracture where he can switch to smokes and tenz can play raze (he used to play in 2021)
I feel like Jett doesn't have the same impact as in 2023, she was brutally nerfed after Champions 2023, even though she is the best option on maps like Ascent for example, the meta of 2025 and onwards will force teams to pick Waylay, Raze, Neon, etc.
TaniBoy7 [#6]Current demon1, yes but eg demon1 clears every human being on this planet who has ever touched valo
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TaniBoy7 [#6]Current demon1, yes but eg demon1 clears every human being on this planet who has ever touched valo
derke literally beat EG demon1
NioMS [#7]Aspas/Derke/KK/T3xture/Jawgemo/Zekken > Demon1
Initiator is easy since the current players are still catching up to Leo
Flex is also easy since Chronicle is the only one who truly masters all of the agents he plays.
Sentinel is hard since you've got Less and Chichoo who've won champs and can hard carry but you've also got Meteor and Alfa who can do the same and have 2 international titles to their name + they're more flexible.
Pure IGL probably Boaster/Saadhak but in this day and age you need a fragger so i would go for Valyn as my team is in need for a smokes player.
note the time though, 2023 Demon1 has and did cook all of them (I am pretty sure)
itsFake [#16]I feel like Jett doesn't have the same impact as in 2023, she was brutally nerfed after Champions 2023, even though she is the best option on maps like Ascent for example, the meta of 2025 and onwards will force teams to pick Waylay, Raze, Neon, etc.
ok but imagine they buff jett, that would go crazy
ahnaf_fahil [#21]2022 yay got to be there
not much room, chamber meta is out and other sentinel players might diff him through sheer util/lurk impact
TaniBoy7 [#6]Current demon1, yes but eg demon1 clears every human being on this planet who has ever touched valo
2025 VIT Derke at Bangkok takes fat shits on prime Demon1 let alone 2022 Derke. What r u on about???
bagooska [#29]https://www.vlr.gg/220448/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/220447/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubf
this doesn't prove shit lmao. demon1 was a better player. fnatic were just better as a team at tokyo.
bagooska [#27]derke literally beat EG demon1
and wasn't better, he had a literal superteam that helped him
Yistyy [#34]this doesn't prove shit lmao. demon1 was a better player. fnatic were just better as a team at tokyo.
thats why demon1 did nothing last year? with theoretically a dream team?
Germy [#36]thats why demon1 did nothing last year? with theoretically a dream team?
that team was ass lmao. and demon1 was struggling with personal issues as well.
Germy [#36]thats why demon1 did nothing last year? with theoretically a dream team?
very stupid argument sorry
Yistyy [#35]and wasn't better, he had a literal superteam that helped him
Exactly what people fail to understand
Yistyy [#37]that team was ass lmao. and demon1 was struggling with personal issues as well.
team was ass because of demon1
bagooska [#40]team was ass because of demon1
im sorry but if you unironically think any version of derke is better than 2023 demon1 you are delusional as fuck or just baiting hard. don't care what you're saying now because even if that's true it is besides the point.
Yistyy [#35]and wasn't better, he had a literal superteam that helped him
demon1 was carried by jawgemo
Yistyy [#41]im sorry but if you unironically think any version of derke is better than 2023 demon1 you are delusional as fuck or just baiting hard. don't care what you're saying now because even if that's true it is besides the point.
derke highest international rating: 1.28
demon1 highest rating: 1.26
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