JP Teams/Players

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Stormyv8

Man, some of them seem to be good players. Pros like dep, meiy, Syouta, yatsuka, CLZ, and even T1 "rejects" like neth, TENNN, and hiroronn have some promising moments.

but from what I see, they SUCK at playing together. Always out-strat-ed, flanked, and their timeout timings are horrible lol. This got me thinking are their problems actually not on the talents themselves but the orgs? or Coaches? or propel IGLing? It's kind of a shame because the shooting seems promising, but their strategy is kinda garbage.

Or maybe I glaze them too much idk

#2

Huyab

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Sadly japanese are stuck with only Japanese coaches because they can barely speak english, the only english they know is "im fine thank you and you".. so importing foreign coaches are not an options.. Carlao with a translator doesnt help at all during all his time with ZETA.

I think japanese number 1 problem is that they're living inside their own bubble and does not have the ability to expand their horizon/perspective because of languages and culture (Japanese has always been inward looking instead of outward culturally).. Pros from all countries except japan has good potential because they seek anything and absord any experience that available to them to better themself while japanese mindset are pretty much either play in a full japanese org + roster or just retire all together, no "drive" to actually try to learn english and maybe join other teams so that they can broaden their perspective.

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importing foreign coaches are not an options

this is not true, in fact they probably hired more foreign coaches than most region in APAC except maybe SA. Pirateflag, Johnta, Tinder, Ell, yT and korean coaches, and if we wanna go far deeper into premier mezo is a russian (probably? but I remember there's a russian analyst in vcj ) analyst ( idk whether he's still in premier).

The notion that Japanese only play with full japanese roster is just not true when imports have been on the scene for so long.

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Huyab

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Im talking about current JP Franchised team. But if were talking about challengers then my point still stand that even if they employ foreign coaches, their effectiveness are not gonna be good because there will always be a "wall" like languages between the coaches and player which are not good..

and korean coaches

Again, majority of Korean in the JP scene already speak good Japanese, even Sayaplayer speak japanese so that he can play in VCJ

The notion that Japanese only play with full japanese roster is just not true when imports have been on the scene for so long.

Then please tell me 1 japanese players in Valorant who played for a team that are not Japanese origins or have majority japanese roster?.
And if you said there's 2 korean in DFM currently, they speak and comm in japanese instead of english there so my point still stand. Majority of import pro playing in VCJ forced themself to comm/speak japanese instead of comming in English.

Im just tired of seeing wasted potential of good JP player like MeiY, and his only option in Tier 1 is either ZETA or DFM because of language barrier and currently neither of those team are good.

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This got me thinking are their problems actually not on the talents themselves but the orgs?

this is old news. the management behind these orgs is awful