would you rather have:
16 team double-elim bracket
group stages exactly like berlin where each group has 4 teams with 5 games: 2 upper bracket, and upper final, an elimination game, and a decider into a single elim 8-team bracket
4 groups of 4 teams that play in round robin format (for those who don’t know, it’s similar to the g2 sen and f4q bracket except with 4 teams and top 2 qualify) into a single elim 8 team bracket
DeluluGavin [#2]16 team double elimination format for me. Can't see another VS vs GMB kind of game
issue with that is that someone has to choose the bracket, and how to do it fairly?
roaree [#11]berlin format but maybe with semis as bo5.
ideally 16 team round robin into 8 team single bracket but thats probably too many games
Yeah that's great too but the same problem I think my one has that it's kinda long
crazy_igel_fan [#5]issue with that is that someone has to choose the bracket, and how to do it fairly?
yeah and a 16 team double bracket is a shit show. anymore than 10 teams doesnt really work
NightFury1513 [#12]Yeah that's great too but the same problem I think my one has that it's kinda long
how long does berlin last?
roaree [#14]how long does berlin last?
I think u wanted to say did*
I guess u are right. I stick with my opinion
crazy_igel_fan [#16]swiss formats are honestly goated idk why they're not used more
How's that format
roaree [#13]yeah and a 16 team double bracket is a shit show. anymore than 10 teams doesnt really work
how is it a shitshow?
NightFury1513 [#18]How's that format
basically each team plays teams with similar win/loss records until the teams are sorted into a ranking
crazy_igel_fan [#20]basically each team plays teams with similar win/loss records until the teams are sorted into a ranking
for champions, you could do 3 days of swiss, and it'd look like this:
day 1 - the matches are determined by tournament seeding - at the end of this day, 8 teams are 0-1 and 8 are 1-0
day 2 - randomly, the 0-1 teams play other 0-1 teams, and the 1-0 teams similarly play each other - at the end of this day, 4 teams are 0-2, 8 teams are 1-1 and 4 teams are 2-0
day 3 - the 2-0 teams rest and the 0-2 teams go home. The 1-1 teams play each other, with the winners going to playoffs and losers going home
playoffs is then an 8-team bracket (can be either double or single elim) with the 2-0 teams getting seeds 1-4 and the 2-1 teams getting seeds 5-8.
u could also do 5 days of swiss for more accuracy, but knowing rito they'd prefer to spread 3 "days" of swiss into a week.
crazy_igel_fan [#22]for champions, you could do 3 days of swiss, and it'd look like this:
day 1 - the matches are determined by tournament seeding - at the end of this day, 8 teams are 0-1 and 8 are 1-0
day 2 - randomly, the 0-1 teams play other 0-1 teams, and the 1-0 teams similarly play each other - at the end of this day, 4 teams are 0-2, 8 teams are 1-1 and 4 teams are 2-0
day 3 - the 2-0 teams rest and the 0-2 teams go home. The 1-1 teams play each other, with the winners going to playoffs and losers going homeplayoffs is then an 8-team bracket (can be either double or single elim) with the 2-0 teams getting seeds 1-4 and the 2-1 teams getting seeds 5-8.
u could also do 5 days of swiss for more accuracy, but knowing rito they'd prefer to spread 3 "days" of swiss into a week.
I kinda like that idea
NightFury1513 [#17]I think u wanted to say did*
I guess u are right. I stick with my opinion
no no i meant champs
RickyIndian [#28]way too many matches and just hard to keep up with
challengers and lcq are double elim though
Nycera [#30]challengers and lcq are double elim though
Challengers ans LCQ are qualifiers. T a major should never be double elim expect if there is bracket reset in the finals, meaning the loser has to win 2 series
PrTsty [#31]Challengers ans LCQ are qualifiers. T a major should never be double elim expect if there is bracket reset in the finals, meaning the loser has to win 2 series
what kind of shit is that, a major should almost ALWAYS be double elim
hiyo [#7]GSL -> 8 team double elimination playoffs
Playoffs:
4 teams that are higher seed from groups start in upper bracket
4 teams that are lower seed from groups start in lower bracket
i feel like an 8 team double elim would be amazing but it’s not gonna happen, there’s way too many games for a 12 day tournament
mclife20 [#29]8 team bracket again and NO fcking double elimination if you lose then you lose, imagine you beat sentinel and they beat you in the grandfinal thats fcking suck
imagine ur vision stirkers and u lost to winner in quarters
PrTsty [#31]Challengers ans LCQ are qualifiers. T a major should never be double elim expect if there is bracket reset in the finals, meaning the loser has to win 2 series
why should qualifiers be double elim but not major lol?
CRAZY_CHAINSAW_MAN_FAN [#32]what kind of shit is that, a major should almost ALWAYS be double elim
Why? Double elim takes away so much hype, so many games tend to get irrelevant
PrTsty [#31]Challengers ans LCQ are qualifiers. T a major should never be double elim expect if there is bracket reset in the finals, meaning the loser has to win 2 series
this take is eh. sure majors that are groups which funnel into a single elim bracket can be more hype means every game counts, but from the outside looking in, double elim helps you understand the real champion and there are gonna be more matches.
mclife20 [#29]8 team bracket again and NO fcking double elimination if you lose then you lose, imagine you beat sentinel and they beat you in the grandfinal thats fcking suck
imagine having an off day causing you to throw away all of your hardwork because the format is single elim.
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