if this was real then she wouldn’t be able to attend EWC, SEN is so shameless
notepicfailboi [#2]We’re creating hypothetical scenarios to ragebait now?
I guess SEN’s just lucky no one on their team is trans
jazzb [#6]no i was saying they would consider her a man
being a transgender in saudi is a big no no
''Sex-change surgery is illegal in Saudi Arabia except to intersex people, and it's against the law for men to wear women's clothing or to act feminine, and vice versa. Transgenderism and cross- dressing are associated with homosexuality and are penalized the same as homosexuality.''
that said penalty: ''Same-sex sexual activity is prohibited under Sharia law, under which all sex outside of marriage, include same-sex sexual activity, is criminalised. The maximum penalty under the law is the death penalty. Both men and women are criminalised under this law. In addition to potentially being captured by laws that criminalise same-sex activity, trans people may also face prosecution for failing to adhere to strict dress codes imposed by Sharia law.''
michaelisupset [#8]damn I guess if g2 ever picked up mimi she couldn’t play at ewc
or if lev picked up a woman
or if furia picked up a woman
or if EDG picked up a woman
or if 100t picked up a woman
or if c9 picked up a woman
or if fnatic picked up a woman
or if navi picked up a woman
or if gen.g picked up a woman
Why tf would G2 pick up Mimi? And pretty sure there are GC Saudi teams
grisx23 [#9]Why tf would G2 pick up Mimi? And pretty sure there are GC Saudi teams
why would sen pick up florescent
michaelisupset [#8]damn I guess if g2 ever picked up mimi she couldn’t play at ewc
or if lev picked up a woman
or if furia picked up a woman
or if EDG picked up a woman
or if 100t picked up a woman
or if c9 picked up a woman
or if fnatic picked up a woman
or if navi picked up a woman
or if gen.g picked up a woman
it’s always with the “what ifs” with u guys
michaelisupset [#10]why would sen pick up florescent
better than zekken unironically but they have zellsis and narrate so not happening
Effluxi [#14]better than zekken unironically but they have zellsis and narrate so not happening
“unironically”
michaelisupset [#15]“unironically”
just compare flor's performance vs TL to zekken's while having a far better team
Nef0r0 [#7]being a transgender in saudi is a big no no
''Sex-change surgery is illegal in Saudi Arabia except to intersex people, and it's against the law for men to wear women's clothing or to act feminine, and vice versa. Transgenderism and cross- dressing are associated with homosexuality and are penalized the same as homosexuality.''
that said penalty: ''Same-sex sexual activity is prohibited under Sharia law, under which all sex outside of marriage, include same-sex sexual activity, is criminalised. The maximum penalty under the law is the death penalty. Both men and women are criminalised under this law. In addition to potentially being captured by laws that criminalise same-sex activity, trans people may also face prosecution for failing to adhere to strict dress codes imposed by Sharia law.''
To be clear these are not acceptable laws to have in your country and there has to be reform
With that being said these laws aren't heavily enforced either. For example flor wouldn't get shot down and killed the moment she steps on Saudi soil and wpuld probably be able to compete in the tournament, it'll just be more difficult (and borderline impossible tbh) for her to express herself comfortably
(Also I don't think death penalty is enforced at all I n recent years)
bE [#16]just compare flor's performance vs TL to zekken's while having a far better team
this isn’t even bait yall just have humiliation kinks
Prancer [#17]To be clear these are not acceptable laws to have in your country and there has to be reform
With that being said these laws aren't heavily enforced either. For example flor wouldn't get shot down and killed the moment she steps on Saudi soil and wpuld probably be able to compete in the tournament, it'll just be more difficult (and borderline impossible tbh) for her to express herself comfortably
(Also I don't think death penalty is enforced at all I n recent years)
I would rather not put flor into such a risky and vile situation where her life or her well being can be endangered
Nef0r0 [#21]I would rather not put flor into such a risky and vile situation where her life or her well being can be endangered
I mean obviously I wouldn't recommend her going (saudi arabia sucks ass anyways go to jordan, the petra clears anything in saudi) but if she were to go I don't think she would die or get physically hurt
michaelisupset [#18]this isn’t even bait yall just have humiliation kinks
that's not a counter argument because you don't have one
Nef0r0 [#21]I would rather not put flor into such a risky and vile situation where her life or her well being can be endangered
Nice goalpost moving. It doesn't matter what you want for her or not. The fact of the matter is, she will 100% be safe if she chose to attend. Hence, proving that these laws are not enforced properly.
Effluxi [#26]that's not a counter argument because you don't have one
I guess Elite is better than Flashback then because he performed better against Vit than Flashback then lmao.
bobwoblob [#29]I guess Elite is better than Flashback then because he performed better against Vit than Flashback then lmao.
I mean, I would say yes teams wise but I have high hopes for KC this year. They very nearly DID beat VIT. One less clutch outright thrown by Avez and they'd've won.
Effluxi [#30]I mean, I would say yes teams wise but I have high hopes for KC this year. They very nearly DID beat VIT. One less clutch outright thrown by Avez and they'd've won.
Wasn't talking about team wise lol. Anyone with half a brain knows Flashback massively clears Elite but by the moronic logic presented, Elite > Flashback. Which is obviously stupid.
Prancer [#17]To be clear these are not acceptable laws to have in your country and there has to be reform
With that being said these laws aren't heavily enforced either. For example flor wouldn't get shot down and killed the moment she steps on Saudi soil and wpuld probably be able to compete in the tournament, it'll just be more difficult (and borderline impossible tbh) for her to express herself comfortably
(Also I don't think death penalty is enforced at all I n recent years)
even if she weren't arrested on the spot (lol), being trans/lgbt/female in a country like this comes with a lot of... stress, even if ur just visiting. u gotta present a certain way and all that shit man
bobwoblob [#28]By that dumbass logic, Elite is better than Flashback because he did better against Vitality than Flashback did lmao.
BBL elite was insane though, he could be better than flashback this year
bobwoblob [#32]Wasn't talking about team wise lol. Anyone with half a brain knows Flashback massively clears Elite but by the moronic logic presented, Elite > Flashback. Which is obviously stupid.
Yeah but elite has a team. You're completely ignoring that Flor performed despite a dogshit team. Unlike Zekken who can't win without having Tenz right behind him to carry.
king_bob [#5]I guess SEN’s just lucky no one on their team is trans
its not luck its smart decision 😂
Effluxi [#35]Yeah but elite has a team. You're completely ignoring that Flor performed despite a dogshit team. Unlike Zekken who can't win without having Tenz right behind him to carry.
Dumbass take god damn.
bobwoblob [#39]Dumbass take god damn.
Bro they got 13-1'd on Bind 90% because they were completely out of sync on their timings are you dense
Effluxi [#40]Bro they got 13-1'd on Bind 90% because they were completely out of sync on their timings are you dense
Literally nobody said anything about their game against Liquid dumbass.
bobwoblob [#41]Literally nobody said anything about their game against Liquid dumbass.
The liquid matchup was literally discussed elsewhere in the thread because it's the best comparison point, learn to read
Effluxi [#42]The liquid matchup was literally discussed elsewhere in the thread because it's the best comparison point, learn to read
which is completely irrelevant to what I was arguing dumbass. Which to reiterate, is that saying x player performed better than y player against team A means x player is better than player y is dumbass logic.
bobwoblob [#43]which is completely irrelevant to what I was arguing dumbass. Which to reiterate, is that saying x player performed better than y player against team A means x player is better than player y is dumbass logic.
Bro you ask for fucking evidence I'm going to give you what I've got, you've got even fucking less to prove the opposite true. Nobody can really make concrete statements about Flor's skill level either way because she's stuck on the worst team in EMEA with two games total until someone decides to take her seriously.
That doesn't mean people can't have opinions, and it doesn't mean Zekken didn't still look dreadful at Bangkok.