at this rate he might actually surpass tenzs record of 289 ACS if he keeps playing like this, one of the best duelists of all time
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elysxxm [#3]I love this narrative of derke finally appreciated as a top 3 duelist oat. He’s deserved it ever since 2023 champs
who else is in the top 3 and dont say yay
Wolfed [#4]who else is in the top 3 and dont say yay
Of all time it’s easily derke, tenz, aspas but until like January people had players like yay,demon1,zekken, texture above derke
If kangkang keeps doing what he’s doing I see him moving into the top 3
elysxxm [#9]Of all time it’s easily derke, tenz, aspas but until like January people had players like yay,demon1,zekken, texture above derke
If kangkang keeps doing what he’s doing I see him moving into the top 3
I'd put kang kang over tenz because 24 tenz wasn't even playing duelist and kang kang won champs
Wolfed [#4]who else is in the top 3 and dont say yay
aspas maybe?
some others that might not be int he top three, but are also very good
buzz, texture, zekken, jawgemo, demon1 (back when he was actually good), zmjkk, and many more that im too dumb to remember
Vaaero [#10]I'd put kang kang over tenz because 24 tenz wasn't even playing duelist and kang kang won champs
Tenz put up the best performance ever seen to the day and his record still remains unbroken. Regardless of the quality of who he played against he was ahead of his time and will stay in my top 3 UNLESS Kangkang does this shit for another year
Vaaero [#10]I'd put kang kang over tenz because 24 tenz wasn't even playing duelist and kang kang won champs
by that u can also say Cned like he won champs but he needs to be consistence (and Cned was very good b4 their champs and after and only recently fell down)
elysxxm [#12]Tenz put up the best performance ever seen to the day and his record still remains unbroken. Regardless of the quality of who he played against he was ahead of his time and will stay in my top 3 UNLESS Kangkang does this shit for another year
Kang kang was good all of 23 and 24 and has the record for the highest ACS in a grandfinal. He also has a record, why isn't he better than someone who played well for the first international tournament?
Huitzilopochtli [#13]by that u can also say Cned like he won champs but he needs to be consistence (and Cned was very good b4 their champs and after and only recently fell down)
Kang kang has been consistent since 2023 tokyo. It was recently EDG as a team picked up and can properly support him now
Vaaero [#14]Kang kang was good all of 23 and 24 and has the record for the highest ACS in a grandfinal. He also has a record, why isn't he better than someone who played well for the first international tournament?
Tenz played well 2023 and 2022 his team was just ass. It’s been so long we’re twisting the narrative, tenz was never bad the team as a whole was.
His record still remains unbroken 4 years later, that has to say something right. And I get lang has a kill record but the kill record was broken like 4 times in 2024 so Maybe it’s just a easier record to break?
Plus even though kang was good for 2023 and 2024 we’re talking about players who have been good since 2021 and early 2022
Vaaero [#15]Kang kang has been consistent since 2023 tokyo. It was recently EDG as a team picked up and can properly support him now
cned was good from 2021 until early 2024 (his teams were garbade tho) bro just give kk some time, only reason every1 sucking his weiner is bcs he is aiming and had some nice clips, if he continues this year than hes def top3
elysxxm [#16]Tenz played well 2023 and 2022 his team was just ass. It’s been so long we’re twisting the narrative, tenz was never bad the team as a whole was.
His record still remains unbroken 4 years later, that has to say something right. And I get lang has a kill record but the kill record was broken like 4 times in 2024 so Maybe it’s just a easier record to break?
Plus even though kang was good for 2023 and 2024 we’re talking about players who have been good since 2021 and early 2022
Kang Kang's ACS in the grindfinals beat out Tenz's previous record, not the kill record.
Vaaero [#18]Kang Kang's ACS in the grindfinals beat out Tenz's previous record, not the kill record.
Tenz has the highest average acs at an international event at 290, not the highest grand finals acs
elysxxm [#19]Tenz has the highest average acs at an international event at 290, not the highest grand finals acs
Yes because kang kang took the grandfinal ACS in 24
Vaaero [#20]Yes because kang kang took the grandfinal ACS in 24
So what I’m hearing is that it took 5 Maps and 109 kills to beat tenz ace when he 79 kills and 3 maps. If tenz played all 5 maps he still has kill record today but he didn’t have to because he swept his finals. Plus he still has the highest average which is also unbroken since 2021
elysxxm [#22]So what I’m hearing is that it took 5 Maps and 109 kills to beat tenz ace when he 79 kills and 3 maps. If tenz played all 5 maps he still has kill record today but he didn’t have to because he swept his finals. Plus he still has the highest average which is also unbroken since 2021
ACS is an average. The amount of maps makes 0 difference in how its calculated.
Vaaero [#23]ACS is an average. The amount of maps makes 0 difference in how its calculated.
That still doesn’t deny the other points I made, and the maps do make a difference on how much average acs
elysxxm [#3]I love this narrative of derke finally appreciated as a top 3 duelist oat. He’s deserved it ever since 2023 champs
Alfajer overshadowed Derke
BEHEMOTH [#8]He is the GOAT duelist, Americas and Brazilian fans overrate Aspas farming Americas too much.
Derke has been on the shift since the beginning, bro's a titan through and through. Behemoth, I'll say.
Do you know why Fnatich lost the Champions 2023? Because Aspas was ALWAYS better than Derke.
elysxxm [#9]Of all time it’s easily derke, tenz, aspas but until like January people had players like yay,demon1,zekken, texture above derke
If kangkang keeps doing what he’s doing I see him moving into the top 3
tenz 😭😭😭😭😭 you people just say anything
Huuuuugo [#26]Do you know why Fnatich lost the Champions 2023? Because Aspas was ALWAYS better than Derke.
chronicle bottom fragged against loud and loud were just the better team
sergueiessenine [#27]tenz 😭😭😭😭😭 you people just say anything
For all time hes top 3 not arguing if ur gonna bait
elysxxm [#29]For all time hes top 3 not arguing if ur gonna bait
im not baiting. a one tournament wonder going on an absolute miracle run back in knights monthly gauntlet 2021 who then goes mia for 2 years straight stuck at home watchpartying because hes not good enough to qual does not belong in a top3 (or even top 5) duelist itw conversation
Huuuuugo [#26]Do you know why Fnatich lost the Champions 2023? Because Aspas was ALWAYS better than Derke.
They relied on the same stale strats all year. That was the problem
sergueiessenine [#30]im not baiting. a one tournament wonder going on an absolute miracle run back in knights monthly gauntlet 2021 who then goes mia for 2 years straight stuck at home watchpartying because hes not good enough to qual does not belong in a top3 (or even top 5) duelist itw conversation
You’re acting like he was bad for those 2 years. His team was always bad as a whole not him individually. He still has a 4 year old record and if he had played 5 maps in his final he would have the kill record. But he didn’t need to because he swept a top 3 oat and a top 3 oat duelist on the same team. 2 trophies is more than 1 and in 2 different eras
catNmouse [#28]chronicle bottom fragged against loud and loud were just the better team
In 2023, Fnatic would beat everyone except Loud. While Loud would lose to everyone except Fnatic lol
BEHEMOTH [#8]He is the GOAT duelist, Americas and Brazilian fans overrate Aspas farming Americas too much.
Derke has been on the shift since the beginning, bro's a titan through and through. Behemoth, I'll say.
"farming Americas"
You talking like Americas isnt a strong region and wasnt stronger than EMEA throughout all 2024.
And derke is on the scene since 2021 and aspas since 2022. Wow, what a big difference!
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