Since people have been ranking Asian teams a lot recently, I decided to make a tier list: https://tiermaker.com/create/asian-teams-1228666
Share your lists below (also tell me if I missed any major team)
Since people have been ranking Asian teams a lot recently, I decided to make a tier list: https://tiermaker.com/create/asian-teams-1228666
Share your lists below (also tell me if I missed any major team)
KoreanOverlord [#11]theres no way people are actually rating X10 higher than NU lol
NU fell off after reykjavik(i guess x10 did too but I made it in 1 min)
hiyo [#12]NU fell off after reykjavik(i guess x10 did too but I made it in 1 min)
NU were like 2 tiers higher than X10 at Iceland
you are implying X10 got significantly better while NU got significantly worse,
when in reality NU just beat Boom 2-0 (4rd best team in SEA) and X10 didnt make it out of groups with Boom in it
https://tiermaker.com/list/valorant/asian-teams-1228666/1700027
I'm pretty bad at ranking SEA and SA so I'm sorry if it's a bad list :<
(order in tier doesn't matter btw)
KoreanOverlord [#16]https://i.imgur.com/yDHmtRq.png
same did my best, but tiers are definitely easier than 1 by 1
Vlt & ge should be in the same group.
iclappedurmama [#17]Vlt & ge should be in the same group.
true, Id still say VLT are better slightly
KoreanOverlord [#18]true, Id still say VLT are better slightly
yea after the addition of DM , they are pretty strong
Paracosm [#13]i respectfully did not place the teams i did not know anywhere
Understandable HAHAHAHA
KoreanOverlord [#16]https://i.imgur.com/yDHmtRq.png
same did my best, but tiers are definitely easier than 1 by 1
I'm really excited to watch Sengoku play, but I think it's a little early to put them that high
DWG, GE, and F4Q should also be higher imo, even if recent results make them look bad
DIAZ_lmfao [#22]https://tiermaker.com/list/valorant/asian-teams-1228666/1700055 jk
You have to make an account and hit save to share your tier list directly from the website
Sprouts [#21]I'm really excited to watch Sengoku play, but I think it's a little early to put them that high
DWG, GE, and F4Q should also be higher imo, even if recent results make them look bad
Im basing off current form, Feeling were on a upward trajectory as a FA team and just got picked up + added kobra
once DK rebuilds roster theyll be significantly higher, rn theyre in limbo state same with zeta
as for F4Q, if they dont go back to their old comp they belong there, and thats coming from an F4Q fan
KoreanOverlord [#14]NU were like 2 tiers higher than X10 at Iceland
you are implying X10 got significantly better while NU got significantly worse,
when in reality NU just beat Boom 2-0 (4rd best team in SEA) and X10 didnt make it out of groups with Boom in it
hyeoni a goated jett. New NU is gonna win this LCQ
Crapycat [#25]My Half- Assed List dont mind me
I do feel VLT should be in A Tier but I will pretty sure get clowned , VLT is Overall better than GE they "may" have given a good fight too PRX
you forgot nuturn and tnl
KoreanOverlord [#18]true, Id still say VLT are better slightly
on the aim game i sure that this vlt is stronger than GE any day i saw in cs DM played in pprx team against teams like vici on 70 to 100 ping still he played good unlike kappa ace also has better aim
Crapycat [#25]My Half- Assed List dont mind me
I do feel VLT should be in A Tier but I will pretty sure get clowned , VLT is Overall better than GE they "may" have given a good fight too PRX
Put NU in S and TNL at A or B , also VLT need to qualify for LCQ first in order to prove them , but yeah with Deathmaker , they are a better team on paper
KoreanOverlord [#27]you forgot nuturn and tnl
Just Noticed I couldnt see Nuturn because it looked like a T due to the white background I would rate them in the same place of VS
and I dont know much about TNL so I couldnt find a place.
https://tiermaker.com/create/asian-teams-1228666
I don't know quite a bit of these teams but here is mine, If there was an A+ tier I would put Nuturn there.
xXballisticXx [#33]U can decide better once all matches of apac are done~as of now.. competition is still going on teams are still fighting ..
true, I guess these tiers are peoples prediction of how the tournament will end
KoreanOverlord [#16]https://i.imgur.com/yDHmtRq.png
same did my best, but tiers are definitely easier than 1 by 1
knowing u u prob put Ge in the bottom
, yep called it
NO HATE TO u , just funny XD
KoreanOverlord [#18]true, Id still say VLT are better slightly
VLT's and Global's play style is entirely different~if a team which global defeats , doesnt mean vlt can also defeat that team
KoreanOverlord [#34]true, I guess these tiers are peoples prediction of how the tournament will end
Exactly!
xXballisticXx [#33]U can decide better once all matches of apac are done~as of now.. competition is still going on teams are still fighting ..
I’ll make another thread once the tournament ends, since I think it will be interesting to see how people’s opinions change in a week :)
Sprouts [#38]I’ll make another thread once the tournament ends, since I think it will be interesting to see how people’s opinions change in a week :)
Cautiously optimistic about this weeks results (Hopium)
KoreanOverlord [#18]true, Id still say VLT are better slightly
tbh I have noticed one thing global esports always play better than vlt against "other" teams but for some reason vlt usually wins against global when they play against each other. It sometimes looks lke as if vlt specifically prepares for global only in south asian region tournaments. For e.g : vlt really struggled against exploits in vcc but Global just 13-3 & 13-4 them.
I am not hating them but this is what I have noticed. At the end both are indian teams, I support both of them.
https://gyazo.com/85896807a3d81bb6b98b0d306b3822c2
I ranked the teams within the tiers too, at least for S and A tiers. Also I am including current form into this, if it was in a vacuum the rankings would be slightly different, for example Bleed wouldnt be so high but they look kinda clean
to explain some of the rankings:
-S tier is all of the APAC teams I think are capable of competing at a mid-high international level right now. I excluded secret because we didnt get to see them in berlin and x10 because I dont know how they will look with patiphan not having played in so long
-A tier is solid teams capable of competing at a high level in APAC but arent quite ready for international play yet
-B tier is good APAC teams, shouldnt be playing internationally. DWG is here because they look like a mess rn and F4Q will be here as long as they keep trying to run meta comps that they have no clue how to play instead of playing their own style. Nth has potential for A tier but I need to see more, 2 upsets vs F4Q and Zeta isnt enough
-C tier is mid tier APAC, Sengoku on paper have a high B-tier roster potentially but they literally havent played a game yet, TNL is here for now because they technically only have 3 players unless I completely missed something but their core rn also has high B/low A tier potential
-D is teams that just arent very good, BIG BAAM is here because they lost crazyguy who both carried them frag wise and was IGL, and Moef and Mowff arent as good as crazyguy and Redneval, who they replaced
iclappedurmama [#47]I didn't place teams whom I don't have any idea about
@iclappedurmama without VLT playing international tournaments , u shouldn't place them so high.. Thats what I think.They may be good but keeping them at such a tier without playing A tier tournaments (Riot official) is Kinda not right
big_chungus69 [#45]https://gyazo.com/85896807a3d81bb6b98b0d306b3822c2
I ranked the teams within the tiers too, at least for S and A tiers. Also I am including current form into this, if it was in a vacuum the rankings would be slightly different, for example Bleed wouldnt be so high but they look kinda clean
to explain some of the rankings:
-S tier is all of the APAC teams I think are capable of competing at a mid-high international level right now. I excluded secret because we didnt get to see them in berlin and x10 because I dont know how they will look with patiphan not having played in so long
-A tier is solid teams capable of competing at a high level in APAC but arent quite ready for international play yet
-B tier is good APAC teams, shouldnt be playing internationally. DWG is here because they look like a mess rn and F4Q will be here as long as they keep trying to run meta comps that they have no clue how to play instead of playing their own style. Nth has potential for A tier but I need to see more, 2 upsets vs F4Q and Zeta isnt enough
-C tier is mid tier APAC, Sengoku on paper have a high B-tier roster potentially but they literally havent played a game yet, TNL is here for now because they technically only have 3 players unless I completely missed something but their core rn also has high B/low A tier potential
-D is teams that just arent very good, BIG BAAM is here because they lost crazyguy who both carried them frag wise and was IGL, and Moef and Mowff arent as good as crazyguy and Redneval, who they replaced
Fam you put teams with high potential like Sengoku, DK and TNL low because of roster uncertainties but then you put X10 and Zeta in A?
TNL has better track record than Zeta and the only team they lost to was season 2 Nuturn and season 3 Vision Strikers which were the 2 DOMINANT APAC teams at the time yet you put Zeta so much higher when half their roster is also gone
Still good list and writeup, just dont understand the logic behind those two teams
Crapycat [#30]Just Noticed I couldnt see Nuturn because it looked like a T due to the white background I would rate them in the same place of VS
and I dont know much about TNL so I couldnt find a place.
Yeah lol. I thought it's some random team and kept them in D. Then realised it's Nuturn and changed
iclappedurmama [#47]I didn't place teams whom I don't have any idea about
Most of the list seems reasonable, but you should give more credit to the Japanese teams imo
I feel like a lot of people are ignoring the fact that Fennel and Reject both played very respectable games against the SEA teams
Revlo [#31]https://tiermaker.com/create/asian-teams-1228666
I don't know quite a bit of these teams but here is mine, If there was an A+ tier I would put Nuturn there.
Nvm
xXballisticXx [#48]@iclappedurmama without VLT playing international tournaments , u shouldn't place them so high.. Thats what I think.They may be good but keeping them at such a tier without playing A tier tournaments (Riot official) is Kinda not right
sorry brotha imma still keeping them so high. That's what I think.
Sprouts [#51]Most of the list seems reasonable, but you should give more credit to the Japanese teams imo
I feel like a lot of people are ignoring the fact that Fennel and Reject both played very respectable games against the SEA teams
Yeah I guess I should have made a S+ tier for vs & prx but I forgot.
DiegoMocu [#54]S: F4Q, PRX, X10, VS, NU
A: Crazy Racoon, FULL SENSE, Northeption, ZETA, TNL
B: GE, BOOM, DWG KIA
C: Fennel, Foxy, Reject
D: Alter EGO, Big BAAM, Velocityidk anything about the rest
i were in the phone so i couldnt make a gyazo, also was too lazy to get up and do sth in the pc lol
GE==VLT imo
iclappedurmama [#47]I didn't place teams whom I don't have any idea about
you know fennel but not zeta? :0
DiegoMocu [#57]you know fennel but not zeta? :0
zeta are now rebuilding their roster that's why i didn't place them.
KoreanOverlord [#49]Fam you put teams with high potential like Sengoku, DK and TNL low because of roster uncertainties but then you put X10 and Zeta in A?
TNL has better track record than Zeta and the only team they lost to was season 2 Nuturn and season 3 Vision Strikers which were the 2 DOMINANT APAC teams at the time yet you put Zeta so much higher when half their roster is also gone
Still good list and writeup, just dont understand the logic behind those two teams
mainly because TNL literally only have 3 players unlike Zeta who still technically do have 6, even if they are rebuilding. otherwise I wouldve put both Zeta and DWG in C tier with TNL. If youre counting the roster with Hate and eko, though, I'd put them in high A tier around X10 or Secret
and youre right, Zeta should probably be lower anyway, I think current form Nth and Global would beat them and even DWG with this bad form would probably win at least 6/10 times. the other B tier teams its more of a tossup, or in Zeta's favor. im just on JP copium
for X10 atleast they are somewhat LAN-proven and do have a proven star player in Patiphan although he is a bit of a question mark still. I'm just personally high on them for now
deltawastaken [#61]https://tiermaker.com/create/asian-teams-1228666
I dont think I did well
wtf it is exactly same as mine
1ucid [#60]S:VS TNL NUTURN PRX CR
but tnl lost eko and hate.hope they can find a suitable replacement
iclappedurmama [#62]wtf it is exactly same as mine
lol I think so difference between f4q and GE is not much
we'll see after they fight in the lower bracket
iclappedurmama [#62]wtf it is exactly same as mine
thats because youre looking at your own tierlist lol
big_chungus69 [#45]https://gyazo.com/85896807a3d81bb6b98b0d306b3822c2
I ranked the teams within the tiers too, at least for S and A tiers. Also I am including current form into this, if it was in a vacuum the rankings would be slightly different, for example Bleed wouldnt be so high but they look kinda clean
to explain some of the rankings:
-S tier is all of the APAC teams I think are capable of competing at a mid-high international level right now. I excluded secret because we didnt get to see them in berlin and x10 because I dont know how they will look with patiphan not having played in so long
-A tier is solid teams capable of competing at a high level in APAC but arent quite ready for international play yet
-B tier is good APAC teams, shouldnt be playing internationally. DWG is here because they look like a mess rn and F4Q will be here as long as they keep trying to run meta comps that they have no clue how to play instead of playing their own style. Nth has potential for A tier but I need to see more, 2 upsets vs F4Q and Zeta isnt enough
-C tier is mid tier APAC, Sengoku on paper have a high B-tier roster potentially but they literally havent played a game yet, TNL is here for now because they technically only have 3 players unless I completely missed something but their core rn also has high B/low A tier potential
-D is teams that just arent very good, BIG BAAM is here because they lost crazyguy who both carried them frag wise and was IGL, and Moef and Mowff arent as good as crazyguy and Redneval, who they replaced
i think the tnl of vct3 can destory any team except vs.they are really unlucky.
https://tiermaker.com/list/valorant/asian-teams-1228666/1700116
im not really into the india scene sorry india fans <3
hotpotatoman [#72]https://tiermaker.com/list/valorant/asian-teams-1228666/1700116
im not really into the india scene sorry india fans <3
I like this based off past achievements
deltawastaken [#65]lol I think so difference between f4q and GE is not much
we'll see after they fight in the lower bracket
u fkin cheater xD
hotpotatoman [#72]https://tiermaker.com/list/valorant/asian-teams-1228666/1700116
im not really into the india scene sorry india fans <3
fair enough just put enigma in c
iclappedurmama [#56]GE==VLT imo
idk, despite the results between them, i think the fire power difference is huge, although ge has been so irregular
https://tiermaker.com/list/valorant/asian-teams-1228666/1700130
Made a new one I think this one is perfect
big_chungus69 [#45]https://gyazo.com/85896807a3d81bb6b98b0d306b3822c2
I ranked the teams within the tiers too, at least for S and A tiers. Also I am including current form into this, if it was in a vacuum the rankings would be slightly different, for example Bleed wouldnt be so high but they look kinda clean
to explain some of the rankings:
-S tier is all of the APAC teams I think are capable of competing at a mid-high international level right now. I excluded secret because we didnt get to see them in berlin and x10 because I dont know how they will look with patiphan not having played in so long
-A tier is solid teams capable of competing at a high level in APAC but arent quite ready for international play yet
-B tier is good APAC teams, shouldnt be playing internationally. DWG is here because they look like a mess rn and F4Q will be here as long as they keep trying to run meta comps that they have no clue how to play instead of playing their own style. Nth has potential for A tier but I need to see more, 2 upsets vs F4Q and Zeta isnt enough
-C tier is mid tier APAC, Sengoku on paper have a high B-tier roster potentially but they literally havent played a game yet, TNL is here for now because they technically only have 3 players unless I completely missed something but their core rn also has high B/low A tier potential
-D is teams that just arent very good, BIG BAAM is here because they lost crazyguy who both carried them frag wise and was IGL, and Moef and Mowff arent as good as crazyguy and Redneval, who they replaced
no way LVR A tire they struggled agiaist tier 2 indian team to win and GE won agist them without any strats
DaalLiya [#83]no way LVR A tire they struggled agiaist tier 2 indian team to win and GE won agist them without any strats
"struggled" while winning maps 13-2, 13-4, 13-2 vs XO who are top 4 in India lol
also the series vs GE was very close even though Louvre playing with 80-100 ping vs GE 20 and at 5 am Singapore time lol.
and beat Secret 2-1. sure, the agent ban system kind of fucked them but LVR also had to play without viper/sage.
KoreanOverlord [#14]NU were like 2 tiers higher than X10 at Iceland
you are implying X10 got significantly better while NU got significantly worse,
when in reality NU just beat Boom 2-0 (4rd best team in SEA) and X10 didnt make it out of groups with Boom in it
didnt X10 use bugs so they got disqualified?
AllAimNoBrain [#86]didnt X10 use bugs so they got disqualified?
nope 1 map disadvantage vs 1 team but they had 5 other maps they couldve won against mediocre opponents
big_chungus69 [#85]"struggled" while winning maps 13-2, 13-4, 13-2 vs XO who are top 4 in India lol
also the series vs GE was very close even though Louvre playing with 80-100 ping vs GE 20 and at 5 am Singapore time lol.
and beat Secret 2-1. sure, the agent ban system kind of fucked them but LVR also had to play without viper/sage.
54 ping and ge won the game just after playing bo3 agaist vlt and it was 3am in sg and ge played without stats and even loosing 2 maps to xo is a shame because there is very huge skill difference between first two teams and the below that teams .
4second [#46]https://imgur.com/a/0cYNJMA
Can be wrong about some D reams
VLT and GE both goes to B tier ,
and exploit to C imo .
KoreanOverlord [#87]nope 1 map disadvantage vs 1 team but they had 5 other maps they couldve won against mediocre opponents
They were also missing Patiphan