aspas and chronicle
-both have at least one trophy
-both have been consistently top 5 in their role since they debuted
-both are often carrying their team
I give the edge to chronicle just because of his insane agent pool
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there’s only 2 people in goat contention
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cameran [#3]what about jingg?
well as per me you need to win atleast one international trophy to come in goat list
i say this as a massive gambit fan but i dont think chronicle was top 5 in his role in 2022(i mean with the whole russia thing and GMB getting banned and they having to play without any org&coach and stuff) but hey aspas was no where in 2021 as well and they have beeen top 5(arguably even top 3) every year except those 2 so yea. sacy and leo should also be mentioned though, sacy was top 3 for like 2 yrs(idk what happened to him in 2021/23) and leo has been top 2(if not arguably the best) for every year since 2022.
ArterieX [#7]nah chron throws in the most important moments
except for the ace against kru
??? bro wha? the only reason FNC even made as far in champs was chron(and alfa as well) carrying their asses.
hes arguably the most clutch in every team hes been in lmao
If it's just about who is even allowed into the conversation of goat then I'd throw in tenz + sacy as well.
As much as I personally don't think he's him tenz won in 2 different eras with very different rosters on very different roles. He was absolutely him in the early valo days and proved he can still win and shoot damn well last year
Sacy won a champs then went on to win madrid in a different language while the team he left behind never won again without him. Stats-wise he doesn't always perform but clearly he has some insane impact through other things (util, probably comms, midrounding, shaping team mentality) + insane in the clutch
I would personally take aspas over both but I think they've proven enough with their multiple trophies and impact on different rosters to be in the conversation
Honourable mentions: derke, less
Believer_ [#9]well as per me you need to win atleast one international trophy to come in goat list
Shit forgot hes cursed
xineFso [#18]TenZ instead of Aspas bro has 1 inter trophy in GOAT debate is crazy
top 5 player at champs 3 years in a row.
alpine007 [#10]i say this as a massive gambit fan but i dont think chronicle was top 5 in his role in 2022(i mean with the whole russia thing and GMB getting banned and they having to play without any org&coach and stuff) but hey aspas was no where in 2021 as well and they have beeen top 5(arguably even top 3) every year except those 2 so yea. sacy and leo should also be mentioned though, sacy was top 3 for like 2 yrs(idk what happened to him in 2021/23) and leo has been top 2(if not arguably the best) for every year since 2022.
sacy does not deserve a mention, he was literally only a top player in champs 2022
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