based on how fun they are as well as the design
- Lotus
- Icebox
- Ascent
- Split
- Sunset
- Bind
- Haven
- Fracture
- Abyss
- Breeze
- Pearl
kfan4238173 [#3]Icebox above fracture and haven is crazy
haven is boring
fracture is really hard to defend on in ranked
ConsistentCycles [#5]icebox at 2 should get you ip banned from the game
i dont get the ice box hate its such a good map
people that hate icebox just dont know how to play it or are just ass
Taruuu1 [#6]i dont get the ice box hate its such a good map
people that hate icebox just dont know how to play it or are just ass
I will say I do enjoy getting icebox, but I think that’s just because I’m retarded
Taruuu1 [#6]i dont get the ice box hate its such a good map
people that hate icebox just dont know how to play it or are just ass
tell that to 90% of vct players who hate icebox, it is objectively just a dogshit map and you can statistically prove it (idc enough im not gonna)
elysxxm [#8]tell that to 90% of vct players who hate icebox, it is objectively just a dogshit map and you can statistically prove it (idc enough im not gonna)
how can u objectively prove a map is bad when its preference
elysxxm [#9]haven and fracture are criminally underrated, sunset is too high imo(switch with haven, icebox is atrocious, and ascent is prob like 7 imo
how ru gonna call icebox objectively shit when theres a map where defenders spawn in the middle and attackers have like 3 entrances to attack from on each site and can start on the other side of the map
Taruuu1 [#11]how ru gonna call icebox objectively shit when theres a map where defenders spawn in the middle and attackers have like 3 entrances to attack from on each site and can start on the other side of the map
defenders have the same amount of time to get the same distance as attackers on offense, and its a unique map, lots of diversity and atleast in all my games its close and never feels like defense or offense is just way easier and more one sided than the other, and icebox is just objectively a bad map your in like the 1% who actually think its a good map
elysxxm [#12]defenders have the same amount of time to get the same distance as attackers on offense, and its a unique map, lots of diversity and atleast in all my games its close and never feels like defense or offense is just way easier and more one sided than the other, and icebox is just objectively a bad map your in like the 1% who actually think its a good map
icebox is good
Taruuu1 [#10]how can u objectively prove a map is bad when its preference
just look at map statistics, its generally just a terrible design
elysxxm [#16]just look at map statistics, its generally just a terrible design
fym map statistics
which statistic proves its a bad map lmao
bees [#14]Ascent is the opposite of fun like I genuinely don't get what people see in that map
its simple
u dont need any hard to play specific agent to win like Astra on pearl
Taruuu1 [#17]fym map statistics
which statistic proves its a bad map lmao
look at post plants, where players die, youll notice COMPARED TO OTHER MAPS mid is virtually untouched, and when u look at where defenders and attackers play + comps they use it gets really stale
Okay okay the reason everyone on here likes fracture and hates icebox is that at high level pro play, icebox because very boring and fracture becomes extremely interesting. If you're talking about ranked experience, especially like plat and below, then just individual preference is fine. And it is probably reasonable to rate icebox better than fracture for like silver level play, you're much more likely to have silvers totally lost and confused playing fracture.
That said, you're on VLR, and we mostly think about pro play here. Icebox has an absurd number of angles and positions to play, it's like a shooting gallery. There is no other map in all of Valorant or Counter Strike that has that design style.
elysxxm [#19]look at post plants, where players die, youll notice COMPARED TO OTHER MAPS mid is virtually untouched, and when u look at where defenders and attackers play + comps they use it gets really stale
how does that prove its a bad map lmao
Taruuu1 [#21]how does that prove its a bad map lmao
shouldnt the fact that mid is untouched and unused by majority of people show it needs a fix, or the fact that the map diversity is stale and the same agents are picked and the same agents win, or the fact that theres like 3 spots on b u can hold from post plant unless u take snowman and orange because evrything else is dogshit
Taruuu1 [#18]its simple
u dont need any hard to play specific agent to win like Astra on pearl
It is incredibly defense sided and also Sova is way harder and more specific than Astra. I just do not find it fun to run into the same KJ setup the same Sova dart the same Odin spam the same Jett op the same Phoenix flash the same AHHH bro it's been four and a half fucking years no changes
bees [#23]It is incredibly defense sided and also Sova is way harder and more specific than Astra. I just do not find it fun to run into the same KJ setup the same Sova dart the same Odin spam the same Jett op the same Phoenix flash the same AHHH bro it's been four and a half fucking years no changes
how is sova harder and more specific that astra u can play him on every map and hes played on like half the maps in the vct
elysxxm [#22]shouldnt the fact that mid is untouched and unused by majority of people show it needs a fix, or the fact that the map diversity is stale and the same agents are picked and the same agents win, or the fact that theres like 3 spots on b u can hold from post plant unless u take snowman and orange because evrything else is dogshit
how does that make the map bad tho lol
Taruuu1 [#25]how does that make the map bad tho lol
i dont understand, a map needing a major overhaul and map change in mid because people dont use it bcs it doesnt play well and is useless makes it a bad map no? 1/3 of the map is nearly unplayable, and the amount of angles u need to clear vs amount of viable non 1 and done 1 angles is crazy
Taruuu1 [#24]how is sova harder and more specific that astra u can play him on every map and hes played on like half the maps in the vct
The map is night and day without a Sova though, and he plays so differently from other initiators, which is already not a very commonly played class in ranked.
Astra is so easy to play. You literally point and click her utility on the map.
bees [#29]The map is night and day without a Sova though, and he plays so differently from other initiators, which is already not a very commonly played class in ranked.
Astra is so easy to play. You literally point and click her utility on the map.
bro called Astra easy lmao
Taruuu1 [#31]bro called Astra easy lmao
astra is easy compared to bloody sova who people spend ages memorisng line ups and charges to ensure perfect util and timing. astra just shits a star on the map and then chooses whether to turn it into 3 things. is like the least skill smokes at least brim and clove require u to make sure u wanna smoke there astra just says fuck u and pulls it back
zhongZHI [#33]astra is easy compared to bloody sova who people spend ages memorisng line ups and charges to ensure perfect util and timing. astra just shits a star on the map and then chooses whether to turn it into 3 things. is like the least skill smokes at least brim and clove require u to make sure u wanna smoke there astra just says fuck u and pulls it back
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