thoughts on mako as a player and igl

is mako still the goat or karon clears him?

is that even a question??? played in t1 without prior experience, reached two of the 3 grand finals in his rookie year, won an international major, is consistent 9 out of 10 times and arguably best controller in game rn... ofc karon clears him

Isn't freeing the igl now? Since like Chengdu?

iamstarsoul [#2]

is that even a question??? played in t1 without prior experience, reached two of the 3 grand finals in his rookie year, won an international major, is consistent 9 out of 10 times and arguably best controller in game rn... ofc karon clears him

basing player quality on international success in a 5v5 team shooter is one of the most disingenuous things you can do in rankings

there's a difference if someone's a "choker", but Mako has never had a team at a similar caliber around him after 2022, and in that year they made 3rd place champs

Every year after that has been someone fucking over his team one way or another

if things play out like they did in 2024 karon will probably surpass him, mako still definitely the goat tho

c4rrotstix [#4]

basing player quality on international success in a 5v5 team shooter is one of the most disingenuous things you can do in rankings

there's a difference if someone's a "choker", but Mako has never had a team at a similar caliber around him after 2022, and in that year they made 3rd place champs

Every year after that has been someone fucking over his team one way or another

I don't fully agree with starsoul's point but I think your point kinda diminishes the strength of VS/early DRX. it was possible for them ngl. also Karon is a star on that Gen G and he has performed on par with mako if we compare those peak iterations of geng and drx. both are great I think karon might make a claim for the top after 2025 if they maintain their form

AKIRA1988 [#6]

I don't fully agree with starsoul's point but I think your point kinda diminishes the strength of VS/early DRX. it was possible for them ngl. also Karon is a star on that Gen G and he has performed on par with mako if we compare those peak iterations of geng and drx. both are great I think karon might make a claim for the top after 2025 if they maintain their form

karon has never performed on par with prime mako