please grow old faster
koromast [#3]wdym ruin? they want him to save sen
reduxx is way too good to be subbed in midseason in a dysfunctional team, he needs his own team and system to truly thrive
jawn [#4]reduxx is way too good to be subbed in midseason in a dysfunctional team, he needs his own team and system to truly thrive
bro you're a sen fan zellsis did that to pancada
jawn [#4]reduxx is way too good to be subbed in midseason in a dysfunctional team, he needs his own team and system to truly thrive
dawg SEN is NOT a dysfunctional lol they've been diffing everyone other than this NRG team
also there is not a single pro in existence that has had made their career worse by joining SEN why are you fake fans just yapping holy shit
eeveeceo [#8]dawg SEN is NOT a dysfunctional lol they've been diffing everyone other than this NRG team
also there is not a single pro in existence that has had made their career worse by joining SEN why are you fake fans just yapping holy shit
if zellsis gets dropped midseason it means the team is dysfunctional no?
jawn [#10]if zellsis gets dropped midseason it means the team is dysfunctional no?
bruv there's a difference between being dysfunctional and making some obvious changes that will make the team better
eeveeceo [#11]bruv there's a difference between being dysfunctional and making some obvious changes that will make the team better
this is just pure dumbassery in display, y'all were saying the same shit about sacy and here we are
Cookierookie577 [#6]bro you're a sen fan zellsis did that to pancada
i don't know what your point even is
jawn [#12]this is just pure dumbassery in display, y'all were saying the same shit about sacy and here we are
y'all??? tf you talking about dumbass i was one of Sacy's biggest supporters even when he wasn't aiming last year
they don't need Zellsis' midrounding if john is playing pack initiator they need more firepower
dumbasses are you kinda mfs who don't have the braincells to not see when two situations aren't the same
jawn [#12]this is just pure dumbassery in display, y'all were saying the same shit about sacy and here we are
bro zellsis was ass with sacy and tenZ on the team might as well change, he's clearly not getting better
eeveeceo [#14]y'all??? tf you talking about dumbass i was one of Sacy's biggest supporters even when he wasn't aiming last year
they don't need Zellsis' midrounding if john is playing pack initiator they need more firepower
dumbasses are you kinda mfs who don't have the braincells to not see when two situations aren't the same
they don't need Zellsis' midrounding if john is playing pack initiator they need more firepower
quote of shame
jawn [#16]they don't need Zellsis' midrounding if john is playing pack initiator they need more firepower
quote of shame
"quote of shame" LOL explain how it's wrong then i bet your ass is gold 1 peak
jawn [#16]they don't need Zellsis' midrounding if john is playing pack initiator they need more firepower
quote of shame
dude zellsis fucking sucks idk why you want him on the team so bad
eeveeceo [#17]"quote of shame" LOL explain how it's wrong then i bet your ass is gold 1 peak
that's not how team dynamics work, this shit is proven year after year after year and if you genuinely think all you need in a winning team is a pack initiator IGL then imma need n4rrate to call you something real quick
also my rank is a sensitive topic, i've lost like 250 rr these couple days so fuck off
Cookierookie577 [#18]dude zellsis fucking sucks idk why you want him on the team so bad
for the same reason i wanted sacy on the team, because they have the intangibles of champions and they proved it
jawn [#19]that's not how team dynamics work, this shit is proven year after year after year and if you genuinely think all you need in a winning team is a pack initiator IGL then imma need n4rrate to call you something real quick
also my rank is a sensitive topic, i've lost like 250 rr these couple days so fuck off
a sign of a dumb person is making claims out of thin air to make their argument sound better
I never said that all you need is a pack initiator IGL, what I was saying was that Zellsis' role with John on sentinel was so much more important last year because he could mid-round and call different plays while John was lurking on the opposite choke point- case in point all of SEN's B execs on split last year when John was taking A-ramp solo every round- now that John is with the pack Zellsis role as a second voice isn't as important anymore and if his dip in fragging continues he lost the only other intangible thing keeping his job
and no shit you lost 250rr if this is the way you see the game LOL
jawn [#20]for the same reason i wanted sacy on the team, because they have the intangibles of champions and they proved it
Bro they won a 8 team tourney, when 0 teams were in form except for Gen G, and they barely qual'd to their last event. Zellsis IS not it
eeveeceo [#21]a sign of a dumb person is making claims out of thin air to make their argument sound better
I never said that all you need is a pack initiator IGL, what I was saying was that Zellsis' role with John on sentinel was so much more important last year because he could mid-round and call different plays while John was lurking on the opposite choke point- case in point all of SEN's B execs on split last year when John was taking A-ramp solo every round- now that John is with the pack Zellsis role as a second voice isn't as important anymore and if his dip in fragging continues he lost the only other intangible thing keeping his job
and no shit you lost 250rr if this is the way you see the game LOL
this point is insanely dumb considering how sacy AND zellsis were the main voices in the midround last year, going by your logic wasn't zellsis also redundant last year? they had a midround voice in sacy already and he wasn't fragging out so why was SEN so successful?
and no shit you lost 250rr if this is the way you see the game LOL
i would sit your bum ass down
Cookierookie577 [#22]Bro they won a 8 team tourney, when 0 teams were in form except for Gen G, and they barely qual'd to their last event. Zellsis IS not it
i can oversimplify and discredit every single VCT trophy win to prove my point to
jawn [#24]i can oversimplify and discredit every single VCT trophy win to prove my point to
they looked ass the 2nd half of the year, and their "peak" wasn't even good
jawn [#13]i don't know what your point even is
the point is that zellsis literally did exactly what you said not to do and it got sentinels a trophy
Cookierookie577 [#25]they looked ass the 2nd half of the year, and their "peak" wasn't even good
literally top4 in champs
jawn [#23]this point is insanely dumb considering how sacy AND zellsis were the main voices in the midround last year, going by your logic wasn't zellsis also redundant last year? they had a midround voice in sacy already and he wasn't fragging out so why was SEN so successful?
and no shit you lost 250rr if this is the way you see the game LOL
i would sit your bum ass down
I was fine with zellsis last year BECAUSE he didn't look like an absolute bot while aiming AND he was midrounding.
Now he DOESN'T shoot straight AND john is taking his role as a pack mid-rounder AND they lost firepower from Tenz which bang isn't making up for and N4rrate is being put in unwinnable clutches after the whole exec gets traded out
forget about sitting anyone's bum ass down bruv only shit you gotta be sitting down is onto your chair at school cause esports is not for you big boy
vercadex [#26]the point is that zellsis literally did exactly what you said not to do and it got sentinels a trophy
reduxx is way too good to be subbed in midseason in a dysfunctional team
explain how this applies to zellsis
jawn [#27]literally top4 in champs
when teams know that they're about to play their last tourney together, they tend to outdo expectations. They still were garbage in split 2 though
eeveeceo [#28]I was fine with zellsis last year BECAUSE he didn't look like an absolute bot while aiming AND he was midrounding.
Now he DOESN'T shoot straight AND john is taking his role as a pack mid-rounder AND they lost firepower from Tenz which bang isn't making up for and N4rrate is being put in unwinnable clutches after the whole exec gets traded outforget about sitting anyone's bum ass down bruv only shit you gotta be sitting down is onto your chair at school cause esports is not for you big boy
revisionist history at it's finest, zellsis had plenty of games where he wouldn't shoot back for shit, him and sacy would pass around the bottom frag spot routinely
on another note i love how i literally explained how zellsis shared the midrounding duties with sacy last year but yet in your mind john is somehow taking up his role this year when in reality he is filling for sacy's role
i'm not even going to acknowledge the last part that is just hilarious
Cookierookie577 [#30]when teams know that they're about to play their last tourney together, they tend to outdo expectations. They still were garbage in split 2 though
i wonder if you know how fucking stupid you look
jawn [#31]revisionist history at it's finest, zellsis had plenty of games where he wouldn't shoot back for shit, him and sacy would pass around the bottom frag spot routinely
on another note i love how i literally explained how zellsis shared the midrounding duties with sacy last year but yet in your mind john is somehow taking up his role this year when in reality he is filling for sacy's role
i'm not even going to acknowledge the last part that is just hilarious
zellsis didn't have games THIS poor that fucking FNS was diffing him in straight aim duels
and bruh obviously an IGL can take up the midrounding duties for two people tf?? not to mention n4rrate is a vocal mf when tenz and sacy were much more quiet during the round
also don't forget this whole discussion started off with you claiming that reduxx would be worse off coming onto SEN which is still absolutely hilarious
drop the tracker if shit is so funny
eeveeceo [#35]zellsis didn't have games THIS poor that fucking FNS was diffing him in straight aim duels
and bruh obviously an IGL can take up the midrounding duties for two people tf?? not to mention n4rrate is a vocal mf when tenz and sacy were much more quiet during the round
also don't forget this whole discussion started off with you claiming that reduxx would be worse off coming onto SEN which is still absolutely hilarious
drop the tracker if shit is so funny
and bruh obviously an IGL can take up the midrounding duties for two people tf??
just saying shit
reduxx would absolutely be worse off, he is a highly regarded duelist main that deserves a proper environment
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/jawn%23yeon/overview bro thinks i care
jawn [#36]and bruh obviously an IGL can take up the midrounding duties for two people tf??
just saying shit
reduxx would absolutely be worse off, he is a highly regarded duelist main that deserves a proper environment
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/jawn%23yeon/overview bro thinks i care
im not just saying shit lol you're pulling stuff outta your ass with no evidence LOL
there is no better environment than SEN as well, pay is good, content is good, great for clout and growing a brand or would you prefer he go to EG and then spend his prime in contract jail on an org about to implode on a team that maybe barely sniffs the regional playoffs because that's realistically the only choice for him once he turns 18 OR do you want a kid fresh outta highschool to fly alone to some new continent. People not even on the team anymore have raved about how good SEN is it's unbelievable that you're trying to claim it would wreck his career
and HOLY bottom 1% I feel bad for being so harsh on you brother
better times are up ahead you're gonna absolute dominate in plat FS
eeveeceo [#37]im not just saying shit lol you're pulling stuff outta your ass with no evidence LOL
there is no better environment than SEN as well, pay is good, content is good, great for clout and growing a brand or would you prefer he go to EG and then spend his prime in contract jail on an org about to implode on a team that maybe barely sniffs the regional playoffs because that's realistically the only choice for him once he turns 18 OR do you want a kid fresh outta highschool to fly alone to some new continent. People not even on the team anymore have raved about how good SEN is it's unbelievable that you're trying to claim it would wreck his career
and HOLY bottom 1% I feel bad for being so harsh on you brother
better times are up ahead you're gonna absolute dominate in plat FS
pulling stuff outta my ass with no evidence but "bruh obviously an IGL can take up the midrounding duties for two people tf??"
there absolutely is a better environment especially next year, he will be the biggest free agent in the market
can't take you seriously with no tracker link sorry
jawn [#38]pulling stuff outta my ass with no evidence but "bruh obviously an IGL can take up the midrounding duties for two people tf??"
there absolutely is a better environment especially next year, he will be the biggest free agent in the market
can't take you seriously with no tracker link sorry
he's an IGL, knows the Kaplan system better than anyone and is plenty vocal
honestly I'd even go as far as saying they didn't even need Sacy and Zellsis both midrounding last year but everyone was frying and the chemistry was good with that team so they didn't bother making changes
there's a reason why he picked to go with SEN as their 6th man AND he's probably under contract
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/extan%238001/overview
jawn [#29]reduxx is way too good to be subbed in midseason in a dysfunctional team
explain how this applies to zellsis
in what way is sen dysfunctional lol
gamergirl [#40]in what way is sen dysfunctional lol
if zellsis gets dropped midseason it means the team is dysfunctional no?
jawn [#41]if zellsis gets dropped midseason it means the team is dysfunctional no?
thats a retarded take
dropping a bad player for a better one isnt dysfunctional its the definition of functional
you're just a zellsis fan, so we dont gotta argue i know ur opinion
eeveeceo [#39]he's an IGL, knows the Kaplan system better than anyone and is plenty vocal
honestly I'd even go as far as saying they didn't even need Sacy and Zellsis both midrounding last year but everyone was frying and the chemistry was good with that team so they didn't bother making changesthere's a reason why he picked to go with SEN as their 6th man AND he's probably under contract
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/extan%238001/overview
of course you're platinum, it's always the shitters with the most confidence, shut your sorry ass up bro i would destroy you playing with my fucking elbow
gamergirl [#42]thats a retarded take
dropping a bad player for a better one isnt dysfunctional its the definition of functional
you're just a zellsis fan, so we dont gotta argue i know ur opinion
in this specific scenario yes it is dysfunctional, if you would go as far as picking up a young prospect and throw him into an off-role midseason to get better it means the previous system failed in a major way
jawn [#43]of course you're platinum, it's always the shitters with the most confidence, shut your sorry ass up bro i would destroy you playing with my fucking elbow
LOL haven't played since Act 1 and I still know more ball than you do 🤣
i've been playing more CS and holy shit the ranked system for that game is so much better
you on NA servers? come run your mouth dumbass I'd diff the living shit out of your -250rr ass
jawn [#44]in this specific scenario yes it is dysfunctional, if you would go as far as picking up a young prospect and throw him into an off-role midseason to get better it means the previous system failed in a major way
every player flexes on that team
you're EMOTIONAL
zellsis aint that good
gamergirl [#46]every player flexes on that team
you're EMOTIONAL
zellsis aint that good
he isn't, i'm not advocating for zellsis, i'm advocating for redux, that kid is the future
eeveeceo [#45]LOL haven't played since Act 1 and I still know more ball than you do 🤣
i've been playing more CS and holy shit the ranked system for that game is so much better
you on NA servers? come run your mouth dumbass I'd diff the living shit out of your -250rr ass
this is so sad
jawn [#48]this is so sad
11.5k posts on VLR.gg
700 hours and still hardstuck diamond 0.89K/D
this is so sad
eeveeceo [#49]11.5k posts on VLR.gg
700 hours and still hardstuck diamond 0.89K/D
this is so sad
i hope all this projecting at least makes you feel better <3
jawn [#50]i hope all this projecting at least makes you feel better <3
i feel wonderful putting chumps down yeah