what's wrong with C9

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bearmans

what things they need to fix? i really thought rossy and v1c would revitalize this team but holy fuck i am so wrong.

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Rossy was mid in T1 and it isn't like v1c has shown much strength previously so I don't see why he would now.

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bearmans

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he's decent in T1. not a super mechanically gifted player but very valuable team player.

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wootenjoyer

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rossy was arguably t1's best and most consistent player what

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Because v1c is dogshit lmfao. There was this N4rrate word who replied back to my comment after 1 year where I talked shit about v1c being dogshit. Can't wait to be proven right this year keke

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Definitely a management issue by now literally every roster is going wrong for no reason these players would literally be going to lans so often if they weren't on C9

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bearmans

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that's probably the case.

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i think it might be time for them to stop recycling xeppaa

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Galactc

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While I agree it's not even that something else has to be making C9 this bad xeppaa alone shouldn't be able to bring a team down from like 5th-6th to bottom 3 or 4

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lxolotl

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true

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uwukitten

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what? literally the only actual top tier player on that roster is oxy, rossy is pretty good then the rest of the roster is just mid or bad. their player quality is significantly below other top americas teams, why do you expect them to be lan caliber?

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Galactc

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Rossy made a lan with T1, v1c has definitely had good moments and moose was solid for C9 last year though honestly wippie was robbed idk how he got benched

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they're not "bad" players, they're just mid. you can't unarguably say v1c, moose or xeppa are better than ANY of the G2/NRG/Lev/Sen/100T players

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True but I feel like a lot of the players from the teams you just mentioned will also end up kinda mid too because there's no way all 5 end up being top teams but also moose is definitely better than fns at least

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?? moose is not better than fns sorry buddy LMFAOO

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??? did this guy just said moose is better than fns??? tweaking

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They've probably only practiced with this roster for like 3-4 weeks lmao. I wouldn't jump to conclusions quite yet. A few rounds came down to poor game management which is fixed by postplant - the first that comes to mind is the haven A post plant where they lost with an omen flash AND breach ult. Rossy's calls seemed good in those "listen in" rounds. I do think a lot lies on OXY this year, and I think they're a middle of the pack team - with a chance to make an upset run for a LAN spot.

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I thought they were bootcamping hard in korea for like a month

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wisP

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Cope

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Xeppa is just not a Tier 1 Caliber player in any aspect

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They saving strats for Redbull offseason event

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Shanvel

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Nahh.. saving strats for Champions 25'

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Idk why they are still keeping Moose even though he's easily the worst shooter on the team and should be the easiest player to replace. If OXY was just an average or even above average duelist none of the mid players on C9 would be on the team bc the team wouldnt even get close to winning matches without him. But since OXY single handily carries them to wins it tricks them into thinking that they don't need major upgrades to weak parts of the team.