Ignorant coming from an american but after looking at some of these americas power ranking it seems like the brazilian teams are rated significantly higher by brazilian flags even though to me they look much weaker than their na counterparts and with how they played last year I dont have much faith in the region. this is probably some of my bias as an na fan though so I was wondering if someone could explain their rationale
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Poh1238 [#2]Bro gonna get lots of Brazilian W rage bait 6/9
honestly its not even 100% ragebait, I do want to know what is so hot about brazil because I dont watch enough of their t2 to be impressed and last year they didnt show up in t1
ionlyHave1Zuni [#4]type of question is this ??? lmfao
of course there is regional bias even if the teams are dogshit
so the brazilian teams are dogshit?
saynotoherpes [#5]honestly its not even 100% ragebait, I do want to know what is so hot about brazil because I dont watch enough of their t2 to be impressed and last year they didnt show up in t1
I mean they do have some talents they just really don’t show some results
foythvlr [#8]they look much weaker than their na counterparts
Why?
they looked really weak last year in t1 and I dont know enough about t2 to say they will look better, esp with almost all the na teams making upgrades in firepower. but the thing is this is an open question and I want someone to explain why the brazilian teams are looking good and what talent is going to go crazy next year
im not gonna lie: Yes. We ARE partial, we DO favor ours more than others, but thats just because we believe in them and want them to do good. I get angry at FURIA playing dogshit every year yet i still believe they will do better in 2025. Sometimes we are wrong, sometimes not. I can be wrong or right regardless of bias, so why not support my people while at it? We have enough people doubting us outside, so amongst ourselves it aint happening
Veri [#10]im not gonna lie: Yes. We ARE partial, we DO favor ours more than others, but thats just because we believe in them and want them to do good. I get angry at FURIA playing dogshit every year yet i still believe they will do better in 2025. Sometimes we are wrong, sometimes not. I can be wrong or right regardless of bias, so why not support my people while at it? We have enough people doubting us outside, so amongst ourselves it aint happening
thanks for the response, is there anything you could tell me about the teams that I could get hyped about/root for? (already fw my wonder zera heavy and I want him to do good because ik he can)
saynotoherpes [#9]they looked really weak last year in t1 and I dont know enough about t2 to say they will look better, esp with almost all the na teams making upgrades in firepower. but the thing is this is an open question and I want someone to explain why the brazilian teams are looking good and what talent is going to go crazy next year
they looked really weak last year
so did NRG C9 and EG buddy. they placed almost the exact same spot as the BR teams and some people also put them high on power rankings today
teams have changed a lot, it is not fair to take last season as a definitive factor because it's not the same teams at all.
almost all the na teams making upgrades in firepower
so did most of the brazilian ones, and the ones who didn't (LOUD) got better on team synergy and organization
of course there's bias, but i see a lot more bias on NA fans. just see how many people seriously believe in EG.
why the brazilian teams are looking good
MIBR: They got fucking aspas, and probably nzr is coming too. Artzin is probably staying and had a good season, was the best on the team. Xenom and Cortezia are two good prospects from tier 2. The team also has a pretty good coach. Conceptually is almost the same as NRG: Two promising rookies, an IGL that could be great, an world champion, and a player who deserved a better team last season (Artzin/S0m). The difference is that NRG has more popular and experienced names overall, which is fair to rank them higher. But they're not too far from each other name by name.
FURIA: Havoc went to his original role and is comfortable again, Mwzera is a pretty good initiator, Heat is a great addition, Raafa is a great IGL, and Khalil might be the weak link but he could finally reach his full potential as we've seen a few times. On top of that they got a pretty good coach. People who say this will be the worst team of the league are the ones biased that haven't bothered to actually look at this team and think for more than five seconds. This team was 3-2 on Split 2 and got better in almost every way, they will at the very least fight for playoffs.
2G: This one might be a wildcard and biased, as they haven't played tier 1 yet. But they looked very good on ascension, mix fresh talents with experienced leadership, got a good temporary sub for spike, and have a lot of synergy. It's not crazy to think it might work out.
LOUD: It's the worse, but people are overreacting to the changes. The team has a lot of firepower, and the core Dgzin - Cauanzin - Tuyz - Pancada is very strong on paper. The only downside is V1nny, that could drag it down, but if he does well, why wouldn't this team go well?
foythvlr [#16]they looked really weak last year
so did NRG C9 and EG buddy. they placed almost the exact same spot as the BR teams and some people also put them high on power rankings today
teams have changed a lot, it is not fair to take last season as a definitive factor because it's not the same teams at all.
almost all the na teams making upgrades in firepower
so did most of the brazilian ones, and the ones who didn't (LOUD) got better on team synergy and organization
of course there's bias, but i see a lot more bias on NA fans. just see how many people seriously believe in EG.
why the brazilian teams are looking good
MIBR: They got fucking aspas, and probably nzr is coming too. Artzin is probably staying and had a good season, was the best on the team. Xenom and Cortezia are two good prospects from tier 2. The team also has a pretty good coach. Conceptually is almost the same as NRG: Two promising rookies, an IGL that could be great, an world champion, and a player who deserved a better team last season (Artzin/S0m). The difference is that NRG has more popular and experienced names overall, which is fair to rank them higher. But they're not too far from each other name by name.
FURIA: Havoc went to his original role and is comfortable again, Mwzera is a pretty good initiator, Heat is a great addition, Raafa is a great IGL, and Khalil might be the weak link but he could finally reach his full potential as we've seen a few times. On top of that they got a pretty good coach. People who say this will be the worst team of the league are the ones biased that haven't bothered to actually look at this team and think for more than five seconds. This team was 3-2 on Split 2 and got better in almost every way, they will at the very least fight for playoffs.
2G: This one might be a wildcard and biased, as they haven't played tier 1 yet. But they looked very good on ascension, mix fresh talents with experienced leadership, got a good temporary sub for spike, and have a lot of synergy. It's not crazy to think it might work out.
LOUD: It's the worse, but people are overreacting to the changes. The team has a lot of firepower, and the core Dgzin - Cauanzin - Tuyz - Pancada is very strong on paper. The only downside is V1nny, that could drag it down, but if he does well, why wouldn't this team go well?
god fucking damnit I had a massive response cooked up but vlr ate it so ill speed through my points
- I know na t2 talent better than br talent so that adds so bias on my end
- na teams have more known quantities that can show up at internationals and have absurd peaks
- giving potter any weapons at all is incredibly dangerous and if she can make yay in to what he was eg is going to go crazy
- nrg is overrated asf
- argument for mibr is valid as aspas will lift their ass to a top 5 in americas no matter how bad his teammates are and if what you say about them is true then they look scary
- honestly i forgot that furia picked up heat and when writing out that roster it looks scary on paper if mw can remain locked in
- 2g is a team I have very little faith in as I thought they got hot at just the right time, akin to m8
- loud without saadhak and less is a team without a soul, pancada just hasnt been it lately and tuyz never was that impressive in my eyes, could easily see them being around 10-11
- overall I was wrong about brazil being awful as they have two teams that can really punch up, thanks for running me through the rosters and logic
ionlyHave1Zuni [#12]Yes
i have been enlightened and now disagree with this assessment (two are aight the others are shit)
saynotoherpes [#17]god fucking damnit I had a massive response cooked up but vlr ate it so ill speed through my points
- I know na t2 talent better than br talent so that adds so bias on my end
- na teams have more known quantities that can show up at internationals and have absurd peaks
- giving potter any weapons at all is incredibly dangerous and if she can make yay in to what he was eg is going to go crazy
- nrg is overrated asf
- argument for mibr is valid as aspas will lift their ass to a top 5 in americas no matter how bad his teammates are and if what you say about them is true then they look scary
- honestly i forgot that furia picked up heat and when writing out that roster it looks scary on paper if mw can remain locked in
- 2g is a team I have very little faith in as I thought they got hot at just the right time, akin to m8
- loud without saadhak and less is a team without a soul, pancada just hasnt been it lately and tuyz never was that impressive in my eyes, could easily see them being around 10-11
- overall I was wrong about brazil being awful as they have two teams that can really punch up, thanks for running me through the rosters and logic
loud without saadhak and less is a team without a soul, pancada just hasnt been it lately and tuyz never was that impressive in my eyes, could easily see them being around 10-11
while i do understand why you would think that, i think you're plain wrong. saadhak and less, besides being the GOATS, are human and make mistakes, and were mostly at fault for how 2024 went. saadhak had some crazy vision about the game that was simply stupid for the current meta and less had a bit of an attitude that dragged the team down sometimes (and they both are at fault on aspas and frod leaving). without saying the whole duelist situation and the messy role swaps. the team now is a bit worse at firepower and(a lot worse) in igling but look a lot cleaner and organized, with a more "back-to-basics" approach, and i see it being better than 2024 loud.
as for the rest, like i said is clear bias for NA. "na t2 talent better than br" why? "potter can turn eg great" no she can't lol she don't make miracles. eg 2024 haven't reached a single playoff (except for kickoff but that was one game), eg 2023 before demon1 was at the bottom of the league, and eg 2025 will be by far the worst roster eg ever had on franchising
foythvlr [#19]loud without saadhak and less is a team without a soul, pancada just hasnt been it lately and tuyz never was that impressive in my eyes, could easily see them being around 10-11
while i do understand why you would think that, i think you're plain wrong. saadhak and less, besides being the GOATS, are human and make mistakes, and were mostly at fault for how 2024 went. saadhak had some crazy vision about the game that was simply stupid for the current meta and less had a bit of an attitude that dragged the team down sometimes (and they both are at fault on aspas and frod leaving). without saying the whole duelist situation and the messy role swaps. the team now is a bit worse at firepower and(a lot worse) in igling but look a lot cleaner and organized, with a more "back-to-basics" approach, and i see it being better than 2024 loud.
as for the rest, like i said is clear bias for NA. "na t2 talent better than br" why? "potter can turn eg great" no she can't lol she don't make miracles. eg 2024 haven't reached a single playoff (except for kickoff but that was one game), eg 2023 before demon1 was at the bottom of the league, and eg 2025 will be by far the worst roster eg ever had on franchising
I think EG is where we disagree, potter absolutely makes miracles with almost nothing and yay has a very similar aiming and playstyle to demon1 that needs someone to do the explosive entry for them, sym is that person and a perfect slot in to that role. going from apoth to a potentially rejuvenated yay would be a massive upgrade and I think people forget just how good he was in his prime
saynotoherpes [#13]thanks for the response, is there anything you could tell me about the teams that I could get hyped about/root for? (already fw my wonder zera heavy and I want him to do good because ik he can)
2G is a massive sleeper. Trust me when i say this: Spikez is a generational level talent. The biggest one to come out of BR since Less and Aspas. Lz and Silentz arent as gifted but they also have huge potential. 2G probably wont do shit until stage 2 cuz Spikez cant play and its their debut year on tier1. However, i unironically think once Spikez comes back and they get used to the t1 level of play, they will look MUCH better. I wouldnt be surprised if they go to champs.
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