Masters Berlin: 1.06 rating 226 acs +9
Champs Berlin: 0.92 rating 241 acs -1
Masters Reykjavik: 0.80 rating 182 acs -12
Masters Copenhagen: 0.76 rating 173 acs -9
Champs Istanbul: 1.05 rating 237 acs +1
Lock/In: 1.00 rating 232 acs +4
Tokyo: 0.68 rating 167 acs -10
LA: 0.95 rating 186 acs -4
Seoul: 0.71 rating 180 acs -8
Not as bad as i thought, only 2/3 of these were really his fault. Still played bad in most but it’s harsh to say it was solely his fault
Coures [#2]of course the stats are going to be worse if you're losing
this is not how you do statistics bro
This too but also like Duelist in top level play (unless you’re like, aspas or primmie) often shows really bad stats in stomps/losses when they’re not the only ones at fault. T side duelist is borderline impossible to frag on if you’re being outread and outcalled or if your initiators don’t use their util well
onefps [#5]wtf even is this post
its not even a hate post, its just autism as a vlr post
it’s vlr we’re all autistic abt valorant to a degree i feel like.
Coures [#2]of course the stats are going to be worse if you're losing
this is not how you do statistics bro
seems like losing doesn't affect MaKo as much but idk.
merciless-pity8989-89 [#7]seems like losing doesn't affect MaKo as much but idk.
if your stratbook has you playing your life it’s a lot easier to get one or two before losing the round
lielahh [#8]if your stratbook has you playing your life it’s a lot easier to get one or two before losing the round
honestly makes sense. That’s probably why Controllers are notorious for being the highest fragging role, and duelist aren’t. You’re right. Asking the duelist/(CHAMBER) not to go sub 200 acs is too much.
merciless-pity8989-89 [#9]honestly makes sense. That’s probably why Controllers are notorious for being the highest fragging role, and duelist aren’t. You’re right. Asking the duelist/(CHAMBER) not to go sub 200 acs is too much.
If you are winning as a duelist, you will have amazing stats. If you are losing, you will not. Idk what’s so hard to grasp about this. If you get your entry frag and your calls and util are helping you, you’ll always get good stats by being the one taking the most contacts. If it’s the opposite, you won’t and the people alive last will get more kills.
lielahh [#11]If you are winning as a duelist, you will have amazing stats. If you are losing, you will not. Idk what’s so hard to grasp about this. If you get your entry frag and your calls and util are helping you, you’ll always get good stats by being the one taking the most contacts. If it’s the opposite, you won’t and the people alive last will get more kills.
True, it’s not like the (arguably) best duelist itw isn’t known for having great stats despite his team not performing as well, up until champs at least. Also, attack side is the only side that exist in valorant, so all duelist do is entry for the team. It’s not like there is a whole other defense side of the map where BuZz usually op crutches and still doesn’t do all that well.
merciless-pity8989-89 [#7]seems like losing doesn't affect MaKo as much but idk.
please take drx flair off
onefps [#13]please take drx flair off
only person on DRX if still give af about after they leave is MaKo. BuZz i could care less about
yellow_donkey [#16]this is like your 2nd or 3rd post pulling up stats by ex-DRX players and saying they played badly. Just move on with your life man.
i’m just getting tired of ppl saying we downgraded.
Also, i could care less about anyone but MaKo
merciless-pity8989-89 [#17]i’m just getting tired of ppl saying we downgraded.
Also, i could care less about anyone but MaKo
fair enough tbh. I dont see DRX being 'downgraded' in terms of talent. Like sure we have to see it in the main season in 2025 but I feel like most people shitting on DRX aren't even a fan to begin with.
Seo_w [#18]when a player loses they have worse stats
very surprising
yeah, the stats from the elim games that they won aren’t any better
i should really just pull up playoff stats in general to prove my point
merciless-pity8989-89 [#15]only person on DRX if still give af about after they leave is MaKo. BuZz i could care less about
please take drx flair off
Coures [#21]please take drx flair off
i’ll take it off permanently if t1 outplaces DRX at any event next year
merciless-pity8989-89 [#17]i’m just getting tired of ppl saying we downgraded.
Also, i could care less about anyone but MaKo
take your flair off you fake fan, I don't want to see antoher drx post form you again.
Go to bed its like 1am for you
12 yearolds still have bedtime I thought?
merciless-pity8989-89 [#22]i’ll take it off permanently if t1 outplaces DRX at any event next year
i want you to use a navi flair if that happens
merciless-pity8989-89 [#12]True, it’s not like the (arguably) best duelist itw isn’t known for having great stats despite his team not performing as well, up until champs at least. Also, attack side is the only side that exist in valorant, so all duelist do is entry for the team. It’s not like there is a whole other defense side of the map where BuZz usually op crutches and still doesn’t do all that well.
Do u play valorant or not rlly
A duelists stats are the most reliant on if their team is playing well, so long as that duelist is entrying
I play sentinel mainly and I’ve noticed in valorant that if my team is getting rolled and my teammates are just ass, I will have an easier time finding individual value on sentinel rather than duelist (living vs taking first duels), unless i start baiting as duelist
A good example is th vs Navi ascent 2023. If you watched the game you wouldn’t think keloqz was the worst on his team, or the reason he lost, but his stats were absolutely atrocious, lowest rating in tier 1 ever, but zeek himself said it wasn’t keloqz fault more than others on his team, because he was entry and it’s hard to do anything when ur getting rolled as entry player.
If the map is close it’s different, but if you’re losing 5-13 or worse the duelist is going to have a very hard time getting kills, whereas the sentinel or controller might get empty kills in 1v5s or playing exits
Idek if this applies to buzz or drx because I don’t remember how those maps went, but when ur getting rolled the worst role to be on is duelist, the best is an anchor role like sentinel or some controllers
onefps [#23]take your flair off you fake fan, I don't want to see antoher drx post form you again.
Go to bed its like 1am for you
12 yearolds still have bedtime I thought?
you could always close the tab
onefps [#26]nah he should use an NA flair like the NA pig he is
yall being cunts. mans just coping that buzz left drx lmao let him be
z12 [#28]yall being cunts. mans just coping that buzz left drx lmao let him be
We have a better duelist now, but just gotta warn T1 fans on what they have to expect. I ain’t even say he was ass or anything, just that he’s a serial choker
merciless-pity8989-89 [#29]We have a better duelist now, but just gotta warn T1 fans on what they have to expect. I ain’t even say he was ass or anything, just that he’s a serial choker
i do get it but it did sound like your only goal was to slander buzz
kanyefan4238173 [#25]Do u play valorant or not rlly
A duelists stats are the most reliant on if their team is playing well, so long as that duelist is entrying
I play sentinel mainly and I’ve noticed in valorant that if my team is getting rolled and my teammates are just ass, I will have an easier time finding individual value on sentinel rather than duelist (living vs taking first duels), unless i start baiting as duelist
A good example is th vs Navi ascent 2023. If you watched the game you wouldn’t think keloqz was the worst on his team, or the reason he lost, but his stats were absolutely atrocious, lowest rating in tier 1 ever, but zeek himself said it wasn’t keloqz fault more than others on his team, because he was entry and it’s hard to do anything when ur getting rolled as entry player.
If the map is close it’s different, but if you’re losing 5-13 or worse the duelist is going to have a very hard time getting kills, whereas the sentinel or controller might get empty kills in 1v5s or playing exits
Idek if this applies to buzz or drx because I don’t remember how those maps went, but when ur getting rolled the worst role to be on is duelist, the best is an anchor role like sentinel or some controllers
Now, lemme have a serious discussion since ppl still have this dumbass argument.
First of all, and this should be coming knowledge. losing does not mean your team played bad. So ur right with that atleast
Second, yes it’s true, even if your team is playing bad, duelist would generally have the worse stats, but that only applies to kd and for pro matches, rating. It does not equate to having low acs or adr. In fact, for one of the more aggro duelist like BuZz, having a low adr and acs can literally only mean 2 things. He’s either lost confidence and it not taking as much fights, or he simply isn’t winning his gun fights(whether it’s because he’s taking bad fights, or his aim is going through a drought)
Now, since my whole original point is that BuZz kinda chokes. I have watched literally all of DRX’s games for the last 2 and half years, multiple times, whether it’s reactions or just rewatching vods. It’s not only the fact that he plays worse in big games, he straight up changes his whole playstyle. Even this year, you could watch any regular season match, even one he played bad in, and then compare it to his champs playoff matches, and you will think it’s 2 different players. This is not an arguable thing, he plays worse. If you wanna say im wrong for saying stats isnt the way to prove it, sure, but you can’t say he ain’t a choker
z12 [#30]i do get it but it did sound like your only goal was to slander buzz
I deadass said in the main post that it wasn’t nearly as bad as i thought and most of it wasn’t even his fault. ppl just looked at the stats i posted and assumed that is was slander, and if they wanna argue idc, it’s 2am and i got nun else to do
merciless-pity8989-89 [#31]Now, lemme have a serious discussion since ppl still have this dumbass argument.
First of all, and this should be coming knowledge. losing does not mean your team played bad. So ur right with that atleast
Second, yes it’s true, even if your team is playing bad, duelist would generally have the worse stats, but that only applies to kd and for pro matches, rating. It does not equate to having low acs or adr. In fact, for one of the more aggro duelist like BuZz, having a low adr and acs can literally only mean 2 things. He’s either lost confidence and it not taking as much fights, or he simply isn’t winning his gun fights(whether it’s because he’s taking bad fights, or his aim is going through a drought)
Now, since my whole original point is that BuZz kinda chokes. I have watched literally all of DRX’s games for the last 2 and half years, multiple times, whether it’s reactions or just rewatching vods. It’s not only the fact that he plays worse in big games, he straight up changes his whole playstyle. Even this year, you could watch any regular season match, even one he played bad in, and then compare it to his champs playoff matches, and you will think it’s 2 different players. This is not an arguable thing, he plays worse. If you wanna say im wrong for saying stats isnt the way to prove it, sure, but you can’t say he ain’t a choker
I think we kinda agree, I’m not even talking about buzz and drx anymore cause I don’t like drx and I didn’t watch their elim games so I’m not disagreeing there.
I also think stats aren’t bad to use for this, just that duelists are at a high risk of getting rolled in stats if their team is playing bad. It sounded like u were disagreeing so I yapped abt it
pitchfork [#34]now when buzz is gone u starting to throw him under the bus
if mako out next year will u do the same to him?
mako doesnt have bad stats tho
pitchfork [#34]now when buzz is gone u starting to throw him under the bus
if mako out next year will u do the same to him?
Nah, he’s carried DRX for too long.
Won’t support his new team tho
pitchfork [#36]oh he did have in the couple games in last year and split 1
merciless-pity8989-89 will find it for anyone who shitting drx the org
that sunset against gen g wasn’t his fault and i’ll die on that hill
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