Both are great players but are held back by their teammates.
They deserve better
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Lyxium [#5]Meiy has decent teammates tho, they can shoot back pretty well
Way better than last year imo
VALuLrant_Addict619 [#3]Primmie hasn't proven himself yet.
yes and Meiy has proven himself by winning Champs 2026 Tokyo
kamisavitar [#9]yes and Meiy has proven himself by winning Champs 2026 Tokyo
primmie has played 5 VCT games while meiy has played for an entire season.
kamisavitar [#9]yes and Meiy has proven himself by winning Champs 2026 Tokyo
He has been consistently performing extraordinarily, even though he had bad teammates last season. Winning a championship doesn't make anyone a good player. By that logic, Kiles has won champions, but that doesn’t make him a better player.
DBStudios [#10]primmie has played 5 VCT games while meiy has played for an entire season.
proving what?
How many Champs matches Meiy played and got a +ve KD ?
(No hate to Meiy, but ur arguments r shiz)
kanyefan4238173 [#7]They both have good teams now. Nats isn’t the best on his team anymore. Kamyk better
0/8
kamyk who?
VALuLrant_Addict619 [#11]He has been consistently performing extraordinarily, even though he had bad teammates last season. Winning a championship doesn't make anyone a good player. By that logic, Kiles has won champions, but that doesn’t make him a better player.
Yes give me an example of a player 4 year ago, and try to win an argument, while I can draw another conclusion from Aspas.
So does Primmie has bad teammates, 2 NA rejects just in lineUp coz they r friend of Fr0st, CRws THE BOTTOM 3 ACS Player
Hate as much as u want, but Primmie has proven himself individually well everywhere
I respect both Meiy and Primmie unlike u
DBStudios [#10]primmie has played 5 VCT games while meiy has played for an entire season.
and tbh thanks, actually for mentioning that that d five matches he played well in, were all at the highest lvl (playoffs+Champs)
without any prior exp :) dats enough to prove urself
kamisavitar [#14]Yes give me an example of a player 4 year ago, and try to win an argument, while I can draw another conclusion from Aspas.
So does Primmie has bad teammates, 2 NA rejects just in lineUp coz they r friend of Fr0st, CRws THE BOTTOM 3 ACS Player
Hate as much as u want, but Primmie has proven himself individually well everywhere
I respect both Meiy and Primmie unlike u
Lmao who said I don't respect Primmie?
I just said he hasn't proved himself yet.
Bro is taking out conclusions on his own 😂
And i took example of Kiles because it's you who mentioned that winning champions make xyz player better I just proved you wrong with your own argument
Are you even getting what are you saying??
VALuLrant_Addict619 [#19]Lmao who said I don't respect Primmie?
I just said he hasn't proved himself yet.
Bro is taking out conclusions on his own 😂
And i took example of Kiles because it's you who mentioned that winning champions make xyz player better I just proved you wrong with your own argument
Are you even getting what are you saying??
yes, i know wat i am saying
but do u?
Meiy a player who played 10 matches (with a lot of exp), couldnt get the high lvl exp tho(playoffs and champs): Proved himself
Primmie a player who played 5 matches (with no prior exp) and at the highest lvl: Didnt prove himself
Wow Logic, either u prove urself by winning smthing (both didnt do) or performing good individually (both did it)
kamisavitar [#12]proving what?
How many Champs matches Meiy played and got a +ve KD ?
(No hate to Meiy, but ur arguments r shiz)
Meiy and primmie have the same amount of maps/series wins at champs. Not only that but primmie got cooked by kicks and runner out of all people lmfao.
Primmie also has ONLY played those games and didn't even have to deal with the burnout or exhaustion of playing for an entire season. This is like comparing someone who has already played for an entire year compared someone who just joined lmao. If you want to say he proved himself then why doesn't he prove that he can carry his team into playoffs next year? There's no proof that he can as he legit only won one series with them.
Also
Primmie 2024 VCT k/d: +24
Meiy 2024 VCT k/d: +40
kamisavitar [#16]and tbh thanks, actually for mentioning that that d five matches he played well in, were all at the highest lvl (playoffs+Champs)
without any prior exp :) dats enough to prove urself
Having to double reply to my message just proves how desperate you are lmao. Primmie did not prove himself at all him, joining and barely winning one game for Talon and then getting cooked for the rest of them does not prove anything lmao. If he did prove himself he should next year and let's see if he can even get into playoffs.
kamisavitar [#16]and tbh thanks, actually for mentioning that that d five matches he played well in, were all at the highest lvl (playoffs+Champs)
without any prior exp :) dats enough to prove urself
yeah but talon were a highish mid tier team already, they beat rrq and team secret without primmie. While meiy is a damn good player with actual bad teammates, and they wouldve never beat t1 or zeta without meiy, while talon could and did without their current star.
DBStudios [#22]Meiy and primmie have the same amount of maps/series wins at champs. Not only that but primmie got cooked by kicks and runner out of all people lmfao.
Primmie also has ONLY played those games and didn't even have to deal with the burnout or exhaustion of playing for an entire season. This is like comparing someone who has already played for an entire year compared someone who just joined lmao. If you want to say he proved himself then why doesn't he prove that he can carry his team into playoffs next year? There's no proof that he can as he legit only won one series with them.
Also
Primmie 2024 VCT k/d: +24
Meiy 2024 VCT k/d: +40
Again shitty argument BURNOUT AND EXHAUSTION LMAO IN PLAYING 10 matches Over 6+ months + the sheer experience bonus u get from it
Losing to Runner? When did Meiy played with him dat u draw d conclusion he is better?
Comparing KD against Champs teams and playOffs teams vs one who played against all lower teams in PAC too
stop embarassing urself lmao
kamisavitar [#21]yes, i know wat i am saying
but do u?Meiy a player who played 10 matches (with a lot of exp), couldnt get the high lvl exp tho(playoffs and champs): Proved himself
Primmie a player who played 5 matches (with no prior exp) and at the highest lvl: Didnt prove himselfWow Logic, either u prove urself by winning smthing (both didnt do) or performing good individually (both did it)
bro primmie played in a qualifiers game which is high pressure and good on him, but his team managed to get there for the second time (first time they needed to beat prx in a no lowers bracket playoff stage) without primmie. I personally believe primmie has proven himself but to others they want to watch more games and see consistent top performance like what he is doing now.
Al-Mawsil [#24]yeah but talon were a highish mid tier team already, they beat rrq and team secret without primmie. While meiy is a damn good player with actual bad teammates, and they wouldve never beat t1 or zeta without meiy, while talon could and did without their current star.
and every1 knows that Primmie is the sole reason TLN qualified to champs, its not me,
its TLN, TS, their coaches and every1, so both hv proven themselves well, in carrying their teams to victors when it matters
kamisavitar [#25]Again shitty argument BURNOUT AND EXHAUSTION LMAO IN PLAYING 10 matches Over 6+ months + the sheer experience bonus u get from it
Losing to Runner? When did Meiy played with him dat u draw d conclusion he is better?
Comparing KD against Champs teams and playOffs teams vs one who played against all lower teams in PAC too
stop embarassing urself lmao
btw its embarrassing with a double r
Anyways embarrassing myself? You're the one who's desperately trying to prove a dying point WHILE getting ratioed.
First of all you didn't even address my point that he has not proven himself due to the lack of games he's played in, Talon already beat secret without primmie and would've done the exact same pre playoffs if they didn't have lenne on the team throwing lmao. Afterwards the team got fried so hard lmao they were looking better WITHOUT primmie then they were with him so idk what you are saying.
Would you say that Alfa had no team around him too because he was usually always has the highest KD even while losing?
DBStudios [#23]Having to double reply to my message just proves how desperate you are lmao. Primmie did not prove himself at all him, joining and barely winning one game for Talon and then getting cooked for the rest of them does not prove anything lmao. If he did prove himself he should next year and let's see if he can even get into playoffs.
Barely winning coz of his teammates, not like meiy won 8 matches
Both won 20% of their games, and both had huge impacts in their wins repsectively
kamisavitar [#27]and every1 knows that Primmie is the sole reason TLN qualified to champs, its not me,
its TLN, TS, their coaches and every1, so both hv proven themselves well, in carrying their teams to victors when it matters
I agree with you that primmie was the final push they needed, but talon werent that trash without him, they were mid-good could beat rrq, secret, t1 but could never beat drx, geng and prx
DBStudios [#28]btw its embarrassing with a double r
Anyways embarrassing myself? You're the one who's desperately trying to prove a dying point WHILE getting ratioed.
First of all you didn't even address my point that he has not proven himself due to the lack of games he's played in, Talon already beat secret without primmie and would've done the exact same pre playoffs if they didn't have lenne on the team throwing lmao. Afterwards the team got fried so hard lmao they were looking better WITHOUT primmie then they were with him so idk what you are saying.
Would you say that Alfa had no team around him too because he was usually always has the highest KD even while losing?
blud doesnt even know TS upgraded and the result wouldnt be same , even TLN knew that they could not win and after the defeat evry1 gave credit to Primmie for their win
Totally clueless man,
nevertheless ur arguments still L
Lack of Game, Meiy proved himslef by winnign 2/10 games and Primmie didnt proved himslef 1/5 games lmao
upvoting urself instantly and then downvoting me to get ratio, look whose desperate
kamisavitar [#29]Barely winning coz of his teammates, not like meiy won 8 matches
Both won 20% of their games, and both had huge impacts in their wins repsectively
Talon with primmie
6 rounds against PRX
12 rounds against DRX
basically same result against TS if they didn't have lenne sub in for some reason
Talon with surf
21 rounds against PRX + 1 map
11 rounds against PRX
28 rounds against DRX + 1 map
should've been a 2-0 win against TS but l0nne
kamisavitar [#31]blud doesnt even know TS upgraded and the result wouldnt be same , even TLN knew that they could not win and after the defeat evry1 gave credit to Primmie for their win
Totally clueless man,
nevertheless ur arguments still L
Lack of Game, Meiy proved himslef by winnign 2/10 games and Primmie didnt proved himslef 1/5 games lmaoupvoting urself instantly and then downvoting me to get ratio, look whose desperate
You have a 3 downvotes while I have 6 upvotes, for a man who talks about kd you really can't read.
anyways
nevertheless ur arguments still L
You needing to say this is just funny lmao and not only that but you're recycling the same argument
DBStudios [#32]Talon with primmie
6 rounds against PRX
12 rounds against DRX
basically same result against TS if they didn't have lenne sub in for some reasonTalon with surf
21 rounds against PRX + 1 map
11 rounds against PRX
28 rounds against DRX + 1 map
should've been a 2-0 win against TS but l0nne
OMG HOW DUMB U R, if u CAN SEE rounds PLZ TRY TO READ THE STAGE written
there PLAYERS THAT TS CHANGED,
u r dumb + blind too
And if we start talking abt DFM's Round
its gonna be over
kamisavitar [#34]OMG HOW DUMB U R, if u CAN SEE rounds PLZ TRY TO READ THE STAGE written
there PLAYERS THAT TS CHANGED,
u r dumb + blind tooAnd if we start talking abt DFM's Round
its gonna be over
So PRX and DRX the titans of Pacific also changed their rosters too? I don't recall that happening, maybe you should try reading what I said then.
DBStudios [#33]You have a 3 downvotes while I have 6 upvotes, for a man who talks about kd you really can't read.
anyways
nevertheless ur arguments still L
You needing to say this is just funny lmao and not only that but you're recycling the same argument
coz it is lmao,
i have the same argument
u r trying to change topics by showing me round differetial and all just to win
while iim sticking to same shiz that Primmie has proven himself in the same way Meiy did, playing 5 mathces extra doesnt make MEIY a PRoven dat too against teams like Bleed, GE, washed T1
WHOM PRIMMIE WOULD FARM ACTUALLY
DBStudios [#35]So PRX and DRX the titans of Pacific also changed their rosters too? I don't recall that happening, maybe you should try reading what I said then.
How does dis this show Primmie is not proven and Meiy has
DBStudios [#22]Meiy and primmie have the same amount of maps/series wins at champs. Not only that but primmie got cooked by kicks and runner out of all people lmfao.
Primmie also has ONLY played those games and didn't even have to deal with the burnout or exhaustion of playing for an entire season. This is like comparing someone who has already played for an entire year compared someone who just joined lmao. If you want to say he proved himself then why doesn't he prove that he can carry his team into playoffs next year? There's no proof that he can as he legit only won one series with them.
Also
Primmie 2024 VCT k/d: +24
Meiy 2024 VCT k/d: +40
go tell him KING. IM NOT LETTING PEOPLE SLANDER MEIY
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