Literally just point at them for 0.5 seconds and you hit 4 bodyshots and 16 headshots in 0.5 seconds. Most braindead shit in this game and people get so impressed when people see a 3k when people are stunned vs a neon ult running mach 58.
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neon ult is so stupid bro
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smthlikeyou11 [#6]ppl forget u have 100% accuracy even while jumping in jett ult and razes ult is a flying rocket and u can satchel 100m into the air and it obliterates anything it touches
its an ult after all
The difference is you just kinda hold down neon's ult while with raze's ult you have to choose an area to shoot it that miss a player entirely it the angle is even a little wrong and with jett's ult if you don't hit a head shot you're most likely going to get killed but with neons you can aim at literally anybody and most likely kill them.
smthlikeyou11 [#6]ppl forget u have 100% accuracy even while jumping in jett ult and razes ult is a flying rocket and u can satchel 100m into the air and it obliterates anything it touches
its an ult after all
The difference is those actually take skill (raze ult maybe not) while neon ult is literally a worse op as in you look at them for 1 seconds and you hit 3 headshots before they have the time to shoot and kill you.
Yes you have 100% accuracy but you have to actually be accurate to use knives and same for raze ult. Neon ult doesn't take accuracy as you can shoot in their general direction and just move around until they die.
GodAwfulGod [#7]The difference is you just kinda hold down neon's ult while with raze's ult you have to choose an area to shoot it that miss a player entirely it the angle is even a little wrong and with jett's ult if you don't hit a head shot you're most likely going to get killed but with neons you can aim at literally anybody and most likely kill them.
honestly maybe in low elo yea
higher ur opponents skill level the less op it gets
notnihso [#8]The difference is those actually take skill (raze ult maybe not) while neon ult is literally a worse op as in you look at them for 1 seconds and you hit 3 headshots before they have the time to shoot and kill you.
Yes you have 100% accuracy but you have to actually be accurate to use knives and same for raze ult. Neon ult doesn't take accuracy as you can shoot in their general direction and just move around until they die.
then adapt to it
people run away from razes ult all the time
neons ult runs out after a while too just double hold him and there problem solved if u dont feel confident enough to take the duel
dont see ppl complaining ab raze ult even u said too raze ult doesnt take skill
notnihso [#8]The difference is those actually take skill (raze ult maybe not) while neon ult is literally a worse op as in you look at them for 1 seconds and you hit 3 headshots before they have the time to shoot and kill you.
Yes you have 100% accuracy but you have to actually be accurate to use knives and same for raze ult. Neon ult doesn't take accuracy as you can shoot in their general direction and just move around until they die.
Also neons movement is way better than either raze or jetts which makes it very hard to aim back at a neon thats all over your screen while jett only has one dash and updraft unless you get 2 kills while neons energy bar resets on a kill, and raze only has two satchels that most people use at the start of the round.
smthlikeyou11 [#10]then adapt to it
people run away from razes ult all the time
neons ult runs out after a while too just double hold him and there problem solved if u dont feel confident enough to take the duel
dont see ppl complaining ab raze ult even u said too raze ult doesnt take skill
How are you supposed to run away from an agent faster than you that also has a stun?
GodAwfulGod [#11]Also neons movement is way better than either raze or jetts which makes it very hard to aim back at a neon thats all over your screen while jett only has one dash and updraft unless you get 2 kills while neons energy bar resets on a kill, and raze only has two satchels that most people use at the start of the round.
id argue raze satcheling in the air and u have to kill him in like a second before he fires his big ass rocket at u is harder to hit then a neon sliding left and right
GodAwfulGod [#12]How are you supposed to run away from an agent faster than you that also has a stun?
not run away completely, like you would do against a clove ult
run away where u have a better angle and when he slides u just easy prefire him or just hold him with 2 people?
u cant run away from a raze satcheling at u either if hes close enough
smthlikeyou11 [#9]honestly maybe in low elo yea
higher ur opponents skill level the less op it gets
Say this to KK, zekken, and miniboo who drop 30 on neon and Everytime I see them use neon ult they get a 3k while there's 2 PROS holding them.
smthlikeyou11 [#9]honestly maybe in low elo yea
higher ur opponents skill level the less op it gets
higher ur opponents skill level the less op it gets
have you not seen victor play?
notnihso [#15]Say this to KK, zekken, and miniboo who drop 30 on neon and Everytime I see them use neon ult they get a 3k while there's 2 PROS holding them.
please show me a clip of them getting a 3k while theres 2 pros holding them
smthlikeyou11 [#14]not run away completely, like you would do against a clove ult
run away where u have a better angle and when he slides u just easy prefire him or just hold him with 2 people?
u cant run away from a raze satcheling at u either if hes close enough
But an agent taking two players just to have a chance of stopping them isn't really fair. While almost every other agent you can stop by yourself.
smthlikeyou11 [#13]id argue raze satcheling in the air and u have to kill him in like a second before he fires his big ass rocket at u is harder to hit then a neon sliding left and right
Also that raze ult is only going to get 1 or 2 kills and you raze ult is often just used to clear angles while with neon's ult you can kill the entire team by just hovering over their bodies
GodAwfulGod [#18]But an agent taking two players just to have a chance of stopping them isn't really fair. While almost every other agent you can stop by yourself.
or just do the first option like i said
viper ult 1v1 is unironically harder
GodAwfulGod [#19]Also that raze ult is only going to get 1 or 2 kills and you raze ult is often just used to clear angles while with neon's ult you can kill the entire team by just hovering over their bodies
if ur whole team dies without killing a neon ulted then you guys deserve it
smthlikeyou11 [#17]please show me a clip of them getting a 3k while theres 2 pros holding them
Round 4 UB Final
EU Rolly Winners v NA Phoenix 1
Miniboo slides into market with neon ult and gets 3 with johnqt, marved, and derek looking at him.
This round is actually the reason I made this post LMFAO. I was kinda angy no one could kill miniboo.
Can't clip since I'm on phone but it's at 5:00:40 in tariks vod
smthlikeyou11 [#21]or just do the first option like i said
viper ult 1v1 is unironically harder
But viper ult takes 9 orbs rather than 7.
notnihso [#23]Round 4 UB Final
EU Rolly Winners v NA Phoenix 1
Miniboo slides into market with neon ult and gets 3 with johnqt, marved, and derek looking at him.
This round is actually the reason I made this post LMFAO. I was kinda angy no one could kill miniboo.
Can't clip since I'm on phone but it's at 5:00:40 in tariks vod
dude this is a lurdwig tarik event no one is taking this serious
x_knowitall39_x [#22]if ur whole team dies without killing a neon ulted then you guys deserve it
Thats like saying that anytime someone's aces its your teams fault. Dumbass take.
GodAwfulGod [#27]Thats like saying that anytime someone's aces its your teams fault. Dumbass take.
yup it is your teams fault. you have 5 players where are your trades? dumb frauds. people ace cause their opponents are braindead. there is no smart scenario where you have 5 people and nobody is traded
smthlikeyou11 [#26]dude this is a lurdwig tarik event no one is taking this serious
What? Why does that have to do with anything? People don't just shoot back at people and knife out run out mid just cuz it's a "off season events". The EU team literally ran a full exec with full util on sunset b around 10-10 against NA P1.
Also some pros have said they're trying because a Rolex is cool and they want it but i can't tell if they're serious or not.
GodAwfulGod [#24]But viper ult takes 9 orbs rather than 7.
then make neon ult 8 orbs then
and viper ult legit makes a whole team rotate
and phx ult is 6 and its basically an extra life
notnihso [#29]What? Why does that have to do with anything? People don't just shoot back at people and knife out run out mid just cuz it's a "off season events". The EU team literally ran a full exec with full util on sunset b around 10-10 against NA P1.
Also some pros have said they're trying because a Rolex is cool and they want it but i can't tell if they're serious or not.
cuz the way u phrased things implied a pro match
and this barely counts
and yes clips exist miniboo has good aim he gets 3 thats how all clips work?
smthlikeyou11 [#30]then make neon ult 8 orbs then
and viper ult legit makes a whole team rotate
and phx ult is 6 and its basically an extra life
Thats that people are saying they need to nerf neons ult somehow if that means making it more ult orbs so be it. Also for an ult that cost 9 orbs it should make a team rotate
Also phx ult has a time limit and you can find his starting position and just sit and wait for his ult to end or him to die and then kill him again.
smthlikeyou11 [#31]cuz the way u phrased things implied a pro match
and this barely counts
and yes clips exist miniboo has good aim he gets 3 thats how all clips work?
You asked for a clip and you got it. Also you're acting like johnqt, Marved, and Derek doesn't have similar mechanics to him. johnqt and Marved have won a LAN and Marved mvped. They're all professional players for a reason.
It's way more crazy when someone gets a 3k like that if they have a Vandal but when someone running mach 10 shooting 20 bullets per second and each headshot is 50 damage it's not that crazy.
x_knowitall39_x [#28]yup it is your teams fault. you have 5 players where are your trades? dumb frauds. people ace cause their opponents are braindead. there is no smart scenario where you have 5 people and nobody is traded
So when a pro aces against another team its cause their braindead, obviously not, also neon has insane mobility so she can get away before getting traded
GodAwfulGod [#32]Thats that people are saying they need to nerf neons ult somehow if that means making it more ult orbs so be it. Also for an ult that cost 9 orbs it should make a team rotate
Also phx ult has a time limit and you can find his starting position and just sit and wait for his ult to end or him to die and then kill him again.
do u actually believe if neons ult was changed to 8 orbs ppl would stop complaining lmao
notnihso [#33]You asked for a clip and you got it. Also you're acting like johnqt, Marved, and Derek doesn't have similar mechanics to him. johnqt and Marved have won a LAN and Marved mvped. They're all professional players for a reason.
It's way more crazy when someone gets a 3k like that if they have a Vandal but when someone running mach 10 shooting 20 bullets per second and each headshot is 50 damage it's not that crazy.
yea its not that crazy but its an ultimate for a reason lol
its supposed to be good
GodAwfulGod [#34]So when a pro aces against another team its cause their braindead, obviously not, also neon has insane mobility so she can get away before getting traded
when a pro aces against a team yeah that team mustve misplayed. you dont just get aced especially in pro play without something fucking up.
neon getting away before getting away from a trade is unrealistic but sure. doesnt mean they should get away 4 times in a row then they are just braindead
smthlikeyou11 [#35]do u actually believe if neons ult was changed to 8 orbs ppl would stop complaining lmao
Probably not but I think it would be fair then, but I think they need to make the torso multiplier a little lower and then it would make the ult a little more fair
x_knowitall39_x [#37]when a pro aces against a team yeah that team mustve misplayed. you dont just get aced especially in pro play without something fucking up.
neon getting away before getting away from a trade is unrealistic but sure. doesnt mean they should get away 4 times in a row then they are just braindead
But in most higher level play your team isn't five man rushing a site they will usual only commit 2 or 3 players, which means that neon can get a kill run away wait for their team to rotate and then has a bunch of util to help get more kills.
GodAwfulGod [#5]What makes it worse is that it only take 7 ult points, like jetts you actually have to aim and it takes 8
jett ult actually doesnt have a timer so its easier to get value with it
if you bumprush without any util as neon, you might just get shot in the head, but with jett you can take your time
KOMPOSTO [#40]jett ult actually doesnt have a timer so its easier to get value with it
if you bumprush without any util as neon, you might just get shot in the head, but with jett you can take your time
While yes it doesn't have a timer, if you use your dash or updraft your left with pretty little to actually do much other than get one more kill, while neon can still run no matter what.
GodAwfulGod [#41]While yes it doesn't have a timer, if you use your dash or updraft your left with pretty little to actually do much other than get one more kill, while neon can still run no matter what.
id argue both updraft and dash and sliding are better movement abilities. if a neon is ulting you just gotta have your crosshair placement a little wider and you can tap him 90% of the time
KOMPOSTO [#42]id argue both updraft and dash and sliding are better movement abilities. if a neon is ulting you just gotta have your crosshair placement a little wider and you can tap him 90% of the time
In low elo sure but in higher elo with a neon who has actually good movement no. Also the difference is updraft and dash are limited you only have one updraft and only one dash unless you kill 2 people, while neon has both two slides and can run as long as she has energy left in her bar.
GodAwfulGod [#43]In low elo sure but in higher elo with a neon who has actually good movement no. Also the difference is updraft and dash are limited you only have one updraft and only one dash unless you kill 2 people, while neon has both two slides and can run as long as she has energy left in her bar.
but jett can jump slide whenever and if that happens you will always have to adjust your crosshair and she can hit you in the air whereas neon only can shoot u on the ground
im low immo and i kill neons more often than not unless they push with util (its hard to tap her in the head if im blind or mollied or stunned)
KOMPOSTO [#44]but jett can jump slide whenever and if that happens you will always have to adjust your crosshair and she can hit you in the air whereas neon only can shoot u on the ground
im low immo and i kill neons more often than not unless they push with util (its hard to tap her in the head if im blind or mollied or stunned)
Its easier to hit a jett in the air then a neon who runs and slides in front of you, also neon has a stun she can just stun run and then get a kill or two and then run away, Jett has to commit if dash is used, and without dash jett doesn't have much in terms of self support other than two short smokes, and her updraft and updraft without dash is pretty bad.
GodAwfulGod [#45]Its easier to hit a jett in the air then a neon who runs and slides in front of you, also neon has a stun she can just stun run and then get a kill or two and then run away, Jett has to commit if dash is used, and without dash jett doesn't have much in terms of self support other than two short smokes, and her updraft and updraft without dash is pretty bad.
dash is the strongest duelist ability, she can fight you from a stupid angle and get away with it
KOMPOSTO [#46]dash is the strongest duelist ability, she can fight you from a stupid angle and get away with it
While yes dash is probably the strongest duelist ability, it is limited to one unless you get 2 kills at least, neon can peak an angle and the run to the other side of the map and peek an angle and then go back or continue to push all without need to get a kill.
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