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VIT Less???

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H3ENnZ

What the fuck? I know this is hype but this is acc more surprising than KC Saadhak to me. VIT is a great team if they can find a better coach than gorilla . But why would Less decide to transition to EMEA? Saadhak to EMEA makes sense cause his english is significantly better than less (I am pretty sure Less speaks english just not that good),
I am going to say this as a NA fan. BR valorant is downfalling, not dying, there is still space to recover if 2G does good in kickoff. But two of the best Brazilian (Yes saadhak is not brazilian but he played on brazilian teams the most in his career) players just transitioned to EMEA instead of staying in Americas.

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saadhak is madly overrated and has been riding on previous achievements as goat status, subpar calls and shit shooting so him going to emea isnt as big as a hit to BR val as you think. People have had nothing but problems with Less so teamplay wise maybe its for the best even if hes such a great shooter

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Best part is best player of BR, NA, and in the World is going to DRX. Aspas.

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Language is really not as big of a problem as some make it to be. EMEA is mostly non-native English speakers and have had multiple players with really little English skills like Alfajer. Also I would imagine that EMEA looks more promising than Brazil and gives opportunities even outside of Vitality if he wants to stay compared to Brazil orgs or even NA orgs because there isn't too many.. And I don't know how the players feel, but LA can be pretty shitty for some players and expensive so maybe he doesn't mind leaving like Aspas. Americas (NA) has the money but outside of that it could be bit meh.

Don't know tho.

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Less competition and more money, such an easy decision

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saadhak also mentioned that Less isn't a terribly vocal player. just give him the game plan and let him shoot

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x_knowitall39_x [#2]

saadhak is madly overrated and has been riding on previous achievements as goat status, subpar calls and shit shooting so him going to emea isnt as big as a hit to BR val as you think. People have had nothing but problems with Less so teamplay wise maybe its for the best even if hes such a great shooter

the downfrags say it all

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Any Brazilian who plays well and speaks English will be called up by a foreign team. This isn't just about valorant. Salaries are much higher in these foreign teams.

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Convoy [#7]

the downfrags say it all

this site is an echochamber with no real attachment to the world around them. you get downvoted for a lot of tuff - still amazes me how people see saadhak/fns/boaster are still top players in spite of horrid performances all year (especially boaster, this guy is losing them so many games and is essentially deadweight beyond anything but calling. hell I would rather have some coaches play than him)

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x_knowitall39_x [#9]

this site is an echochamber with no real attachment to the world around them. you get downvoted for a lot of tuff - still amazes me how people see saadhak/fns/boaster are still top players in spite of horrid performances all year (especially boaster, this guy is losing them so many games and is essentially deadweight beyond anything but calling. hell I would rather have some coaches play than him)

Friendly fire

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x_knowitall39_x [#9]

this site is an echochamber with no real attachment to the world around them. you get downvoted for a lot of tuff - still amazes me how people see saadhak/fns/boaster are still top players in spite of horrid performances all year (especially boaster, this guy is losing them so many games and is essentially deadweight beyond anything but calling. hell I would rather have some coaches play than him)

You're mostly cooking with this comment but frankly saadhak wouldn't be in such high demand if he wasn't rated highly by people in the scene and not just in echo chambers

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ValAnalist [#8]

Any Brazilian who plays well and speaks English will be called up by a foreign team. This isn't just about valorant. Salaries are much higher in these foreign teams.

It really must suck to be a Brazilian fan and watch the best players go to foreign teams that just pay more.

Tho I wonder why this isn't the case for LATAM teams? Do they actually pay better too?

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bees [#11]

You're mostly cooking with this comment but frankly saadhak wouldn't be in such high demand if he wasn't rated highly by people in the scene and not just in echo chambers

Same with FNS even though people love to suck up to him and talk down on boaster for some reason; while they are all good igls i would argue FNS is the most overrated out of them 3

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catNmouse [#13]

Same with FNS even though people love to suck up to him and talk down on boaster for some reason; while they are all good igls i would argue FNS is the most overrated out of them 3

I agree but there's very few fns truthers on this site.

Boaster is at least actually great at calling, it's just a question of whether it's worth his combat performance

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bees [#14]

I agree but there's very few fns truthers on this site.

Boaster is at least actually great at calling, it's just a question of whether it's worth his combat performance

For me personally the best way to find out to find out whoโ€™s better between boaster and FNS is looking at their match histories vs BLG ๐Ÿ’€

I donโ€™t think this affected boasters performance a lot but I think the loss of leo has tanked his performance significantly more as he was great help to boaster and without leo he had to make all the calls by himself micromanaging his teammates especially alfa. That in itself tells me how good of a igl he is even though heโ€™s shit at fragging lol. If leo comes back then i think he can be like 5% more consistent in fragging cause the weight will be off his shoulder

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x_knowitall39_x [#2]

saadhak is madly overrated and has been riding on previous achievements as goat status, subpar calls and shit shooting so him going to emea isnt as big as a hit to BR val as you think. People have had nothing but problems with Less so teamplay wise maybe its for the best even if hes such a great shooter

This, finally someone said it. At this point i'd go far and even say loud doesnt want saadhak, it seems like he think he owns the team and acts like the boss from what ive heard. All the coaches said the same thing, they had ideas, just couldnt put it in practice because saadhak either ignored it or just went completely against it;

His calls and gameplans this year werent S tier but they def werent that bad, hes still got some potential on him, i just dont see him winning another champions. To me it just looks like hes playing 'for fun', kinda doesnt care much about his career itself

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loloscum [#16]

This, finally someone said it. At this point i'd go far and even say loud doesnt want saadhak, it seems like he think he owns the team and acts like the boss from what ive heard. All the coaches said the same thing, they had ideas, just couldnt put it in practice because saadhak either ignored it or just went completely against it;

His calls and gameplans this year werent S tier but they def werent that bad, hes still got some potential on him, i just dont see him winning another champions. To me it just looks like hes playing 'for fun', kinda doesnt care much about his career itself

Them trying to play phoenix a lot definitely tanked his stocks

They kept running with it even despite being figured out super easily

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badvibrations [#5]

Less competition and more money, such an easy decision

its not more money when you go from Americas to EMEA. you get more going from APAC/EMEA to Americas. frost did a whole breakdown on a podcast one time

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catNmouse [#15]

For me personally the best way to find out to find out whoโ€™s better between boaster and FNS is looking at their match histories vs BLG ๐Ÿ’€

I donโ€™t think this affected boasters performance a lot but I think the loss of leo has tanked his performance significantly more as he was great help to boaster and without leo he had to make all the calls by himself micromanaging his teammates especially alfa. That in itself tells me how good of a igl he is even though heโ€™s shit at fragging lol. If leo comes back then i think he can be like 5% more consistent in fragging cause the weight will be off his shoulder

That's a good point ๐Ÿ’€

I hesitate to talk shit on fns because I just don't know any pros like that but I get bad vibes from him, like he tilts too easily or something, especially compared to Boaster.

That clip of him raging at Neon someone posted earlier is kinda evidence like idk I can't imagine other pros getting heated like that even if they still think she's broken

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loloscum [#16]

This, finally someone said it. At this point i'd go far and even say loud doesnt want saadhak, it seems like he think he owns the team and acts like the boss from what ive heard. All the coaches said the same thing, they had ideas, just couldnt put it in practice because saadhak either ignored it or just went completely against it;

His calls and gameplans this year werent S tier but they def werent that bad, hes still got some potential on him, i just dont see him winning another champions. To me it just looks like hes playing 'for fun', kinda doesnt care much about his career itself

Idk if I would go that far. Even if saadhak were to be a washed IGL, is cauanzin really better?

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catNmouse
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bees [#20]

Idk if I would go that far. Even if saadhak were to be a washed IGL, is cauanzin really better?

Ehh, cauanzin has apparently IGLed vs furia and mibr and i think EG

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catNmouse [#21]

Ehh, cauanzin has apparently IGLed vs furia and mibr and i think EG

So he gave mibr their first map and furia their second win ๐Ÿ’€

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bees [#20]

Idk if I would go that far. Even if saadhak were to be a washed IGL, is cauanzin really better?

I mean i never saw cauan as IGL so i really cant argue on this one

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x_knowitall39_x [#9]

this site is an echochamber with no real attachment to the world around them. you get downvoted for a lot of tuff - still amazes me how people see saadhak/fns/boaster are still top players in spite of horrid performances all year (especially boaster, this guy is losing them so many games and is essentially deadweight beyond anything but calling. hell I would rather have some coaches play than him)

I could not agree more about this website, but i disagree that Saadhack os overrated, he is very good, like, in the board of champions kills, Saadhack stil top 5 even with him out of the 24 champs.

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bees [#12]

It really must suck to be a Brazilian fan and watch the best players go to foreign teams that just pay more.

Tho I wonder why this isn't the case for LATAM teams? Do they actually pay better too?

Children get angry, but those who are mature enough know that it is better for the players' careers to go to these teams.
Yes Lev and Kru pay more.

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bees [#19]

That's a good point ๐Ÿ’€

I hesitate to talk shit on fns because I just don't know any pros like that but I get bad vibes from him, like he tilts too easily or something, especially compared to Boaster.

That clip of him raging at Neon someone posted earlier is kinda evidence like idk I can't imagine other pros getting heated like that even if they still think she's broken

fns has ALWAYS been raging in ranked and on stream tho and tbh it's pretty obvious that it doesn't really mean anything, cos if he was that bad in a team environment as well i'm pretty sure he wouldn't have as much support as he does.
also what so many pros rage at random shit lmao

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TM06Nick [#18]

its not more money when you go from Americas to EMEA. you get more going from APAC/EMEA to Americas. frost did a whole breakdown on a podcast one time

This is probably true for NA organizations, but not for LOUD

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