Do they try again? or just call it quits?, especially now that from 2026 you are only guaranteed 1 year if you ascend
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Skoepdoep2 [#4]what happened to the 2 year guaranttee? is it a relegation system from 2026?
There is only 1 year guaranteed, the better placed team between the two ascended team will retain the spot.
https://www.vlr.gg/363225/riot-reveals-challengers-and-ascension-changes-for-2025
IHaveAnswers [#5]There is only 1 year guaranteed, the better placed team between the two ascended team will retain the spot.
https://www.vlr.gg/363225/riot-reveals-challengers-and-ascension-changes-for-2025
Not just better, the team has to place high enough, can't remember specific number. The only time it's based on which team is better is if both make it. Both teams can be relegated or sent back to ascension
IHaveAnswers [#5]There is only 1 year guaranteed, the better placed team between the two ascended team will retain the spot.
https://www.vlr.gg/363225/riot-reveals-challengers-and-ascension-changes-for-2025
oh so franchised teams cant go down to asecnsion? I though we could finally get rid of shits like MIBR and FUR
Skoepdoep2 [#8]oh so franchised teams cant go down to asecnsion? I though we could finally get rid of shits like MIBR and FUR
https://www.vlr.gg/363225/riot-reveals-challengers-and-ascension-changes-for-2025
derptz [#6]What’s left for org to invest in tier 2?
1 year promotion is pretty useless.
Before you got relegated back to Challengers no matter what, now you can keep your spot indefinitely if you make champs or win ascension again.
meanie [#2]they sign better players this time
They sign cebando and Dante and maybe eve sato and go with Vorwenn or some proven IGL and a new cracked NA kid, not another recycled shithead plz, go full reset
ItzZausty [#10]Before you got relegated back to Challengers no matter what, now you can keep your spot indefinitely if you make champs or win ascension again.
You’re right, but it feels like they fixed 5 problems and created 10 more
laifu [#3]They are basically the biggest T2 NA org next to MxS, they have alot of rebuild potential even if they lose zander, koalanoob or Nismo
they will most likely rebuild, looks like -koala -nismo
in general the org looks to be in a better spot than most, their R6 team is budget but still making good progress and attending top tournaments, CS team is looking better and better while budget, only team yet to make it big is Val which they are close to. I don't think this will end the Val team
kaninv [#14]they will most likely rebuild, looks like -koala -nismo
in general the org looks to be in a better spot than most, their R6 team is budget but still making good progress and attending top tournaments, CS team is looking better and better while budget, only team yet to make it big is Val which they are close to. I don't think this will end the Val team
Their R6 team is not budget at all lmao. They spend a ton of money on their R6 team compared to other orgs.
bobwoblob [#16]Their R6 team is not budget at all lmao. They spend a ton of money on their R6 team compared to other orgs.
dang, I am not super caught up on R6 and I didn't recognize anyone on the team so I assumed, that's my bad.
either way their Valorant project shouldn't have been such a massive loss considering how much support they got, and their CS team is doing fantastic. plus even if their R6 team isn't budget, they are still making tournaments so I think their Valorant division will be fine overall. Thanks for the correction though!
Sk00d [#15]honestly what are the odds they get to be a partnered team instead of an EG or C9 from 2026 or whenever the franchise contracts end?
I believe it’s end of 2026 start of 2027 yeah. It’ll be tough because:
A) EG and C9 may bail them selves out somehow
B) the competition is pretty appealing too, e.g. optic, tsm, flyquest, shopify, g2 (assuming they get relegated in 2025 or 2026)
Skoepdoep2 [#8]oh so franchised teams cant go down to asecnsion? I though we could finally get rid of shits like MIBR and FUR
This was neger the case. Its a partnership invite league, not a franchise league like everyone calls it
Aayan [#18]I believe it’s end of 2026 start of 2027 yeah. It’ll be tough because:
A) EG and C9 may bail them selves out somehow
B) the competition is pretty appealing too, e.g. optic, tsm, flyquest, shopify, g2 (assuming they get relegated in 2025 or 2026)
Its end of 2027 start of 2028. 5 year contract 2023-2027
Sk00d [#15]honestly what are the odds they get to be a partnered team instead of an EG or C9 from 2026 or whenever the franchise contracts end?
From 2028. The partnership league contracts are 5 years long so ending in 2027
TM06Nick [#19]This was neger the case. Its a partnership invite league, not a franchise league like everyone calls it
Aayan [#18]I believe it’s end of 2026 start of 2027 yeah. It’ll be tough because:
A) EG and C9 may bail them selves out somehow
B) the competition is pretty appealing too, e.g. optic, tsm, flyquest, shopify, g2 (assuming they get relegated in 2025 or 2026)
Even if g2 isn't relegated I could see them definitely wanting to become a franchised team and not ascension
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