sentinels fall off

might be the biggest fall off of the franchising era. EDIT: FORGOT EG LOL nvm

if the by far 2 most valuable players are gone they stand no chance
zellsis and johnqt will also pull nobody good

i think zekken stays but if he doesnt this will be a generational fall off

zekken is staying, kids a generational troll

And worst thing is that those are irreversible, them leaving didn't make other teams stronger

Put Tenz on that manager chair
Brother will pull players using that "being nice" aura

catNmouse [#2]

zekken is staying, kids a generational troll

yeah i agree, its the exact kinda thing hed do

but if he doesnt...

this always happens to NA brah. good team for a year then falls apart

Most valuable is crazy when they didn’t get good until Zellsis and especially JohnQT joined

And Sen was already good before tenz joined and they were bad before and after sacy joined

Camden [#6]

Most valuable is crazy when they didn’t get good until Zellsis and especially JohnQT joined

And Sen was already good before tenz joined and they were bad before and after sacy joined

i view it more as them getting a real igl and zellsis just being great for the roles rather than johnqt and zellsis being the reasons of success specifically. i think theres more guys out there that can do what johnqt and zellsis can than guys that can do what zekken and tenz can do. i think of tenz and zekken very highly

i dont think zellsis and johnqt are as special as tenz and zekken. although they are all important

kanyefan4238173 [#7]

i view it more as them getting a real igl and zellsis just being great for the roles rather than johnqt and zellsis being the reasons of success specifically. i think theres more guys out there that can do what johnqt and zellsis can than guys that can do what zekken and tenz can do. i think of tenz and zekken very highly

i dont think zellsis and johnqt are as special as tenz and zekken. although they are all important

As important as tenz, zekken, and sacy that were all on the same team in 2023 that came 7th in Americas vs adding Zellsis and JohnQT that resulted in a kickoff win, masters win and top 4 champs

Camden [#8]

As important as tenz, zekken, and sacy that were all on the same team in 2023 that came 7th in Americas vs adding Zellsis and JohnQT that resulted in a kickoff win, masters win and top 4 champs

yes cause having an igl and a really flexible player is very important. i think johnqt and zellsis fill VERY important roles but they arent as important of players

Camden [#6]

Most valuable is crazy when they didn’t get good until Zellsis and especially JohnQT joined

And Sen was already good before tenz joined and they were bad before and after sacy joined

2023 sen was awful because:
mid igl who couldnt shoot + tenz irl issues + lack of a real head coach + role issues + different roster every single week

johnqt actually brought firepower and zellsis brought vibes making team cohesion 10x better. however zekken was the real x factor and u could tell that sen's win condition was him having a good day or not (and most of the time he had those good days)

kanyefan4238173 [#9]

yes cause having an igl and a really flexible player is very important. i think johnqt and zellsis fill VERY important roles but they arent as important of players

Literally in 2023 Zellsis had a better year without those people

Camden [#11]

Literally in 2023 Zellsis had a better year without those people

they didnt qualify for masters or champs, they just got close

also the supporting cast for zellsis on 2023 c9 was better than the supporting cast for tenz and zekken in sen 2023

also i wouldnt talk about 2023 as a slight for tenz, its kinda disingenuous when you and i both know what happened to him in 2023. was a rough year

kanyefan4238173 [#12]

they didnt qualify for masters or champs, they just got close

also the supporting cast for zellsis on 2023 c9 was better than the supporting cast for tenz and zekken in sen 2023

also i wouldnt talk about 2023 as a slight for tenz, its kinda disingenuous when you and i both know what happened to him in 2023. was a rough year

Half of c9 “supporting cast” ain’t even in the league anymore. Regardless of qualifying for a lan or anything they had a way better year than Sen. they actually won some prize money.

kanyefan4238173 [#12]

they didnt qualify for masters or champs, they just got close

also the supporting cast for zellsis on 2023 c9 was better than the supporting cast for tenz and zekken in sen 2023

also i wouldnt talk about 2023 as a slight for tenz, its kinda disingenuous when you and i both know what happened to him in 2023. was a rough year

C9 had unknown players that year and Sen had 4 champions lol

Zekken will never perform the same

Camden [#14]

C9 had unknown players that year and Sen had 4 champions lol

This is just dumb imma be real

If you think Tenz and zekken aren’t the most valuable players of 2024 Sen idk what to tell you

kanyefan4238173 [#12]

they didnt qualify for masters or champs, they just got close

also the supporting cast for zellsis on 2023 c9 was better than the supporting cast for tenz and zekken in sen 2023

also i wouldnt talk about 2023 as a slight for tenz, its kinda disingenuous when you and i both know what happened to him in 2023. was a rough year

So if Sen do better than 7th best in the league this upcoming season then will you admit that tenz and sacy aren’t the two most important pieces

kanyefan4238173 [#16]

This is just dumb imma be real

If you think Tenz and zekken aren’t the most valuable players of 2024 Sen idk what to tell you

They are 7/10 valuable

Camden [#17]

So if Sen do better than 7th best in the league this upcoming season then will you admit that tenz and sacy aren’t the two most important pieces

I don’t think it’s Tenz and sacy I think it’s Tenz and zekken

And no, because that isnt a controlled experiment