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What happened to KC?

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#1
Skoepdoep2

Does anyone have any idea how they went from first place in kick off to doing dogshit for the rest of the year?

i do hate the french and KC but it seems crazy that they just stopped winning randomly.

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c4rrotstix
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From watching sliggy, it seems like the main issue was that they didn't have an IGL, and once they started running out of Engh/Zeish cooked up set strats they lost steam and couldn't midround

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hushasuka
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^ This

KC did really well cause they were the worst team last season. Meaning out of all the teams they had the earliest and longest off season to straight cook up strats. But at a certain point (after madrid) they ran out of strats and they just didn’t have the same amount of time to cook up more and fresh new strats.

2024 KC on paper isn’t dogshit, we’ve seen them dominate EMEA before. It’s just that the format wasn’t very kind to them considering they are a macro heavy team. With the very short breaks between matches and internationals, and then the constant changing of agent metas and map pools they didn’t have the time to keep up.

After kickoff I think it was zeish who said despite dominating emea they hadn’t even shown 20% of their strats, and during the off season they would practice protocols for every single situation and team by remaking 2v2, 3v3 situations in customs. It sucks they fell off during the second half but had the vct season not been so packed together i think they would’ve done a lot better

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Huitzilopochtli
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W post respect to all kc players im very interested in their changes (Elite could be an insane pick if they get him)

#12
Skoepdoep2
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In the end everyone did have the same amount of time to prepare though. I do agree that the schedule is overly packed and that Champs should probably take place around now or in a few weeks. (it probably doesnt because of LoL worlds that should go on during oct and nov)

i don't like KC anyways but i did enjoy that there was some competition regionally. Last year i kind of got bored of watching fnc since they dominated most teams regionally. So i'm glad it at least exciting to watch the matches again.

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sorry i should’ve clarified my wording. My point is that KC unlike most teams was a strat and macro heavy team that needed time to come up with fresh new stuff. With that being the case, having an entire off season before split 1 allowed them to play their strength. After madrid they couldn’t because the length of off time was no where near the same. I understand in the end everyone had the same time to prepare but my point is KC is a special case that would’ve preformed better had they had more time. Other teams were not as protocol heavy.

And agreed, KC and TH dominance in the first half was a nice refresher. Everyone was getting sick of emea being considered a 1 team region. FuT and VIT were also very pleasant surprises. Hopefully with Derke leaving and all the free talent from ascension, some new king of emea will appear

#21
Skoepdoep2
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I get that, I just expected them to do more at Madrid since they did so well. Since theirs strats should have lasted at least that long. I was hoping for them to make it to play offs (again i hate kc but that's just cuz i hate the french. Not the players per se.) I hope they come back stronger, they shoukld at least try to put a team together that can function at a MID level without too many strats. That way they can use the strats they make more sparingly and not run out of them as quickly.

I kind of would like it if Derke goes to VIT so Sayf can play the role he wanted, although sayf is a better duelist then senti. I do still want FNC to win but i'd be okay with 2 kings of Emea or maybe 3. Like the early days when TL and Navi were better.

#3
Azzelastia
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Nothing, fraudmea doesn't have any good teams. Only flukes

#4
Skoepdoep2
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well that's simply not true. Fnc has done well for a long time and now we have another team that makes internationals consitently and performs well in teams Heretics.

#7
everything
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Fraudmea couldn't compete against Chadcific, Chadna. They could only beat assmerica

#9
Sky1k
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Yeah get grouped by 4th seed of Americas

#19
K4ziuHa
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retarded, th was 1st in the group

#22
Sky1k
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⁉️

#5
flnnss
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Magnum

#6
number1_Demon1_fan
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Well, usually you have a lot of good set plays/ideas but the issue is that they constantly had to use them because they couldn’t take a slow default approach due to magnum still beginning in igling, and lacking adaptation towards the end of the season

#11
aspassonjiezounb
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n4rrate deserves better.K0rm0n0 cr0p is just a piece of shit.

#13
FragginChick
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Every team has their good and bad moments, just like Fnatic lately...

#14
Skoepdoep2
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fnc won 2 regionals and made champs though. what did KC do? + fnc may have sucked at kickoff but they werent as bad as kc during stage 1 and 2

#15
BTM_Wipr
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KC split 2 wasn't all bad, they trolled some matches tbh. (putting aside coach strats)
vs FNC, vs TH, vs VITA these losses could've been wins it was very close and as said above with a avg IGL KC would win those.

#16
Skoepdoep2
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that doesn't take away that they fell off so quickly. it's KC's fault for creating a team with no/ a bad IGL.

#17
BTM_Wipr
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they went to a Master, won a title and ended up 5/6th in EMEA.
not bad if you ask me, but KC should do better as one of the top 3 biggest EU orgs (fanbase)

#18
Skoepdoep2
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you can put it that way to make it seem like alot.

They got grouped at masters, won kickoff and then dissapeared. they werent in contention for anything after kickoff, they just existed in the middle.

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