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cloudberry

LOUD announced Saadhak's contract ends this year instead on next year now. That I understand. What I don't understand is that people are saying he's a restricted free agent now. Was that a separate announcement I didn't see, or is that just an implication of the contract change, or is it a rumour for now?

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I guess people are saying LOUD are looking for a new IGL since he's gone after this year ends. Doesn't make sense to me tbh bc why wouldn't they drop him completely to save money which is why they dropping saadhak in the first place.

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nihso [#2]

I guess people are saying LOUD are looking for a new IGL since he's gone after this year ends. Doesn't make sense to me tbh bc why wouldn't they drop him completely to save money which is why they dropping saadhak in the first place.

What I know is LOUD made an announcement saying "we're changing his contract expiry date from 2025 to 2024 to allow him to look for new offers if he wishes to do so." They didn't announce he was leaving, and they didn't announce he was a restricted free agent, either. So I'm confused now

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I’m confused too

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catNmouse [#4]

I’m confused too

Man I wish I knew Portuguese right about now

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cloudberry [#3]

What I know is LOUD made an announcement saying "we're changing his contract expiry date from 2025 to 2024 to allow him to look for new offers if he wishes to do so." They didn't announce he was leaving, and they didn't announce he was a restricted free agent, either. So I'm confused now

Well they're saying he can look for offers if he wants to. He doesn't have to and LOUD might wanna keep him after all. I guessing he can be bought out and LOUD would be fine with it.

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cohnr [#7]

https://x.com/ValorINTEL/status/1831834224644755710?t=Umem0xI9XIrAFaSPnrXNGw&s=19

I already saw the ValorINTEL tweet. It doesn't have a source provided, though. Plus ValorINTEL has been wrong in the past

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I think it depends on when in 2024 his contract now ends. If it's ended he's unrestricted, if it's yet to come he's restricted

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nihso [#6]

Well they're saying he can look for offers if he wants to. He doesn't have to and LOUD might wanna keep him after all. I guessing he can be bought out and LOUD would be fine with it.

This makes the most sense to me. LOUD wants money, so if a team is willing to put in a HUGE buyout for Saadhak (I'm guessing pretty similar to Derke's buyout) then that's of monetary benefit for LOUD

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Aayan [#9]

I think it depends on when in 2024 his contract now ends. If it's ended he's unrestricted, if it's yet to come he's restricted

If his contract hasn't ended yet, then is he even a free agent to begin with? We have such little clarification on this

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cohnr [#7]

https://x.com/ValorINTEL/status/1831834224644755710?t=Umem0xI9XIrAFaSPnrXNGw&s=19

Account is affiliated with dexerto i rather wait for saadhak to actually say it himself

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cloudberry [#11]

If his contract hasn't ended yet, then is he even a free agent to begin with? We have such little clarification on this

Yeah I have no clue, my theory is that he's restricted and loud are just trying to get money.

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catNmouse [#12]

Account is affiliated with dexerto i rather wait for saadhak to actually say it himself

Yup. As far as I'm aware we haven't heard anything of the sort from Saadhak, LOUD, or even any of Saadhak's teammates

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Aayan [#13]

Yeah I have no clue, my theory is that he's restricted and loud are just trying to get money.

That's as good a theory as any right now

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cloudberry [#14]

Yup. As far as I'm aware we haven't heard anything of the sort from Saadhak, LOUD, or even any of Saadhak's teammates

https://x.com/ValorINTEL/status/1831837371207446592

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https://x.com/ValorINTEL/status/1831837371207446592

Does that mean he's RFA though?

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cloudberry [#17]

Does that mean he's RFA though?

Technically yes, his contract will end at the end of the year (You can check VCT Contract database its public information) as long as he is under contract he is Restricted Free Agent by definition

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Technically yes, his contract will end at the end of the year (You can check VCT Contract database its public information) as long as he is under contract he is Restricted Free Agent by definition

If that's the case then isn't every player with a contract in tier 1 technically a restricted free agent?

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cloudberry [#19]

If that's the case then isn't every player with a contract in tier 1 technically a restricted free agent?

Yes! As long as another org is willing to put out big buyouts to orgs who don’t want to sell.

Edit: i also believe their are roster limitations which dont allow orgs to sign new players during the season only between tournies

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Yes! As long as another org is willing to put out big buyouts to orgs who don’t want to sell.

Edit: i also believe their are roster limitations which dont allow orgs to sign new players during the season only between tournies

I'm more confused now. What's the point in announcing a player as a restricted free agent, then? Does the announcement serve any purpose? What's the difference between a normal player and an RFA rostermania-wise?

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cloudberry [#21]

I'm more confused now. What's the point in announcing a player as a restricted free agent, then? Does the announcement serve any purpose? What's the difference between a normal player and an RFA rostermania-wise?

The announcement means the org is willing to let them go! Its a public announcement between orgs saying “hey you can buy this guy for less than normal because im willing to let them go now”

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The announcement means the org is willing to let them go! Its a public announcement between orgs saying “hey you can buy this guy for less than normal because im willing to let them go now”

Ohhh alright thank you

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