Why concentrated fanbase >>> dispersed fanbase

Some orgs have concentrated fanbase e.g 90% of the fanbase are in Tokyo,etc . Which is good because orgs can organize events like having fan meeting, or even personal training by orgs themselves ( yes, it exists, Sengoku did this before(?)) and fans can participate easier because they live near the place.

Which is why I think other orgs should concentrate their business on a smaller scale while at the same time reaching a wider fanbase in order to take advantage of the economies of scale of being a business that relies a lot on the internet.

Assumptions :

1. Orgs have to be Headquartered near where the fanbase are, which is why they need to secure their foothold in the place they started at.
2. .... let me think

Might be cooking , might be yapping

problem is, where do you pin down HQs for all the American teams? are they all in LA? C9 and 100T are in LA, so are sentinels, so are NRG. EG are the only NA Org in Seattle. Orgs like Leviatan, KRU, Loud, Mibr, Furia have another problem, their HQs and home spots are easily seen and spotted, however them being in brazil or chile within the HQ makes 0 sense for their esports success, they need to be out there in LA because that's where their opposition is

Nef0r0 [#2]

problem is, where do you pin down HQs for all the American teams? are they all in LA? C9 and 100T are in LA, so are sentinels, so are NRG. EG are the only NA Org in Seattle. Orgs like Leviatan, KRU, Loud, Mibr, Furia have another problem, their HQs and home spots are easily seen and spotted, however them being in brazil or chile within the HQ makes 0 sense for their esports success, they need to be out there in LA because that's where their opposition is

I see, maybe they can do events like mass online coaching?? That also encourages particpation. Maybe get 1 or 2 pros to coach fans who are interested, or probably like Sentinels' Tenz and Zekken vs 5 Bronze players, etc

Definitly, I dont understand why NA team doesnt try to empersonate precise region identity, like east coast, west coast, southern. Would make NA game mush more hype if they are a little bit mush more regionnal hype

Anguibok [#4]

Definitly, I dont understand why NA team doesnt try to empersonate precise region identity, like east coast, west coast, southern. Would make NA game mush more hype if they are a little bit mush more regionnal hype

west coast clears allat

IonlywatchvcjXD [#3]

I see, maybe they can do events like mass online coaching?? That also encourages particpation. Maybe get 1 or 2 pros to coach fans who are interested, or probably like Sentinels' Tenz and Zekken vs 5 Bronze players, etc

thing is, esports cannot be as centralized as real sports. BY default, all football clubs display their country, their town, their district, their political views, their heritage, because the stadium and the club being there all the time. That's why football can raise topics of politics, racism, religion so often, it is a part of the sport. There is no such thing in sports, the top of it is that they show the nationality. And even then, we have a ukrainian org in navi being displayed by a ukrainian, 2 russians, 1 latvian and 1 swede, a dutch org in liquid having no dutch players, a french karmine corp and french vitality with 0 combined frenchmen, and SPANISH-GERMAN G2 fielding a North American roster.

Anguibok [#4]

Definitly, I dont understand why NA team doesnt try to empersonate precise region identity, like east coast, west coast, southern. Would make NA game mush more hype if they are a little bit mush more regionnal hype

cuz all of them are in LA, except for EG who are in Seattle. It is not Boston vs Philly rivalry, it is not Houston vs Dallas or Chicago vs Detroit. It's just one LA team vs another LA team

how are people so invested in valorant man

jasonWong [#8]

how are people so invested in valorant man

This doesnt just apply to Valorant, this also applies to every esports and orgs out there

Nef0r0 [#6]

thing is, esports cannot be as centralized as real sports. BY default, all football clubs display their country, their town, their district, their political views, their heritage, because the stadium and the club being there all the time. That's why football can raise topics of politics, racism, religion so often, it is a part of the sport. There is no such thing in sports, the top of it is that they show the nationality. And even then, we have a ukrainian org in navi being displayed by a ukrainian, 2 russians, 1 latvian and 1 swede, a dutch org in liquid having no dutch players, a french karmine corp and french vitality with 0 combined frenchmen, and SPANISH-GERMAN G2 fielding a North American roster.

maybe they should hold event in where they're based on at the moment, e.g if G2 valorant team is based on Studio in LA while your org is based in EU maybe they should market themselves more in LA and encourages more participation from the fanbases in LA.

I think if MIBR , Loud etc want to make their stint in LA worthwhile maybe they should start reaching to the NA fanbases to instead of just holding onto BR fanbase.

IonlywatchvcjXD [#10]

maybe they should hold event in where they're based on at the moment, e.g if G2 valorant team is based on Studio in LA while your org is based in EU maybe they should market themselves more in LA and encourages more participation from the fanbases in LA.

I think if MIBR , Loud etc want to make their stint in LA worthwhile maybe they should start reaching to the NA fanbases to instead of just holding onto BR fanbase.

what common ground do they have?

Nef0r0 [#11]

what common ground do they have?

Common ground as in?

IonlywatchvcjXD [#12]

Common ground as in?

language, for example. esports is just too far away rn, and also holding more IRL events is just not really viable in big countries like USA imo. Sen fans are all over the world, I really doubt they have a set popularity point. take navi for example, they are an org with fans all over the world, but most of them are in Ukraine, so it's logical for navi to pin themselves down in Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine, its most populated town. same for vitality and karmine corp in france. That's where I would change the subject a bit, some orgs have a bit more flavour simply to being one of a kind in its region. Navi is the only Ukrainian org out there, karmine corp and vitality usually start off with french rosters and then change depending on success. most NA orgs feel the same for me. like alter the players here and there and strip their jerseys away and they feel the same.

Nef0r0 [#13]

language, for example. esports is just too far away rn, and also holding more IRL events is just not really viable in big countries like USA imo. Sen fans are all over the world, I really doubt they have a set popularity point. take navi for example, they are an org with fans all over the world, but most of them are in Ukraine, so it's logical for navi to pin themselves down in Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine, its most populated town. same for vitality and karmine corp in france. That's where I would change the subject a bit, some orgs have a bit more flavour simply to being one of a kind in its region. Navi is the only Ukrainian org out there, karmine corp and vitality usually start off with french rosters and then change depending on success. most NA orgs feel the same for me. like alter the players here and there and strip their jerseys away and they feel the same.

Yeah I think some orgs definitely are definitely favoured, which is why first mover advantage is a thing, for orgs like sen its no longer viable for them to just start concentrate back on local fanbase.

Might be tunnel vision but I think japanese orgs encourages a lot of participation which is what inspires this thread.

Actually does it even cost anything to hold an online event 😂, aside from getting streamers to participate as long as it's a fan event I think it's just a time issue (?). Might be wrong tho.

The more I think about my proposition actually works for T2 orgs tho, they really can increase people's participation in T2 and not just watch T1

IonlywatchvcjXD [#14]

Yeah I think some orgs definitely are definitely favoured, which is why first mover advantage is a thing, for orgs like sen its no longer viable for them to just start concentrate back on local fanbase.

Might be tunnel vision but I think japanese orgs encourages a lot of participation which is what inspires this thread.

Actually does it even cost anything to hold an online event 😂, aside from getting streamers to participate as long as it's a fan event I think it's just a time issue (?). Might be wrong tho.

The more I think about my proposition actually works for T2 orgs tho, they really can increase people's participation in T2 and not just watch T1

I don't think val can pull it off consistently, probably older esports like LoL and CS will be the first

Nef0r0 [#7]

cuz all of them are in LA, except for EG who are in Seattle. It is not Boston vs Philly rivalry, it is not Houston vs Dallas or Chicago vs Detroit. It's just one LA team vs another LA team

You can play in LA and still have a east coast identity, BR team play in LA and are still BR team

I also support T2 being splitted into East and West