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tier 2 teams are gonna figure vyse out and then rito will buff
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vyse will be standard in pro play
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geometrix [#2]buff?????? lmao nah shes getting nerfed
I don't think she will be insane like that tbh. On par with cypher or KJ imo.
nihso [#4]I don't think she will be insane like that tbh. On par with cypher or KJ imo.
def worse her util isnt very info based she wouldn't fit in meta unless as a bonus senti like vyze skye viper raze brim on bind she has no real place to take up kj or cyphers spot
Borgroves [#5]def worse her util isnt very info based she wouldn't fit in meta unless as a bonus senti like vyze skye viper raze brim on bind she has no real place to take up kj or cyphers spot
Okay but like... what if the meta (get ready for this) CHANGES!? WOAH WHAT THAT CAN HAPPEN?
(Also agent 27 will be also out by the time 2025 starts, which could spice things up even further)
cloudberry [#7]Okay but like... what if the meta (get ready for this) CHANGES!? WOAH WHAT THAT CAN HAPPEN?
(Also agent 27 will be also out by the time 2025 starts, which could spice things up even further)
a meta with no INFO WOAHHH WOAHH IM SO SMART AHAHA are you ok? info in this game is a stable meta forever
kalayav_n [#8]a meta with no INFO WOAHHH WOAHH IM SO SMART AHAHA are you ok? info in this game is a stable meta forever
Wdym no info? In the most tame scenario, double initiator + Vyse could be a thing
cloudberry [#9]Wdym no info? In the most tame scenario, double initiator + Vyse could be a thing
. passive information on big maps like haven, abyss, ascent, icebox, lotus
kalayav_n [#10]. passive information on big maps like haven, abyss, ascent, icebox, lotus
Oh that's what you mean ok
cloudberry [#11]Oh that's what you mean ok
yes sorry if i came off as offensive, but vyse is an attacking senti more than a defensive senti, KJ and CYPHER probably hard clear unless double senti.
kalayav_n [#12]yes sorry if i came off as offensive, but vyse is an attacking senti more than a defensive senti, KJ and CYPHER probably hard clear unless double senti.
Yeah that's fair. That being said, though, this is all speculative at the end of the day, we won't actually know until we get to play her
cloudberry [#13]Yeah that's fair. That being said, though, this is all speculative at the end of the day, we won't actually know until we get to play her
yes true,
If we talking about ranked, then she will feel op because ppl will feed into her kit. Pro play is diff because these guys are paid to be really good at the game so they should know/have ideas to play with/against her. Besides, this agent has a kit that is very scenario based so its likely that it will take time for people to figure her out and to maximize her value (deadlock being a fair comparson to a scenario based senti). Just note that any sub optimal play can be easily bailed out with mechanical skill
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